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    Originally Posted by Kiknskreem View Post
    I don't have any knowledge of weightlifter's headaches, but I know there has been some good discussion of that on Mark Rippetoes forum at Strength Mill forums.





    See post 86.
    why don't you recommend it? i feel it a lot in my quads and lower back this way, that's how it's supposed to be right?

    i do romanian deadlifts as well, and these hit the hams and glutes for me hard, so i don't need them hit with regular deads on top of that.



    also, i don't squat.... so then for me personally maybe this way would be better?
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    Originally Posted by justanothagirl View Post
    why don't you recommend it? i feel it a lot in my quads and lower back this way, that's how it's supposed to be right?
    Quads are involved, but the deadlift is not a quad dominant lift. If you're trying to work your quads, there are better things to do than a watered down deadlift.

    A trap bar deadlift, hack squat might, or other squat variant would probably be better.

    Originally Posted by justanothagirl View Post
    i do romanian deadlifts as well, and these hit the hams and glutes for me hard, so i don't need them hit with regular deads on top of that.
    You can't not hit those muscles with a deadlift.
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    Originally Posted by Kiknskreem View Post
    Quads are involved, but the deadlift is not a quad dominant lift. If you're trying to work your quads, there are better things to do than a watered down deadlift.

    A trap bar deadlift, hack squat might, or other squat variant would probably be better.



    You can't not hit those muscles with a deadlift.
    i still don't understand why it's considered a watered down deadlift....it hits all the muscles i want it to hit hard... and the movement feels good to me (doesnt feel uncomfortable or like im going to injure myself)
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    I like doing stiff leg deadlifts at the end of my every workout, it really pushes the body to the max.
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    what do i do on my descent for the DL? i think this is why my lower back is usually sore. i asked a trainer and he said my ascent was fine. he told me to bring hips out first then knees, but i cant really figure out how to do that. so do i lower the weight and slightly round my back to bring the bar to my knees, then squat down? ALSO, i know you're not supposed to round your back on DL's/squats, but how do you keep a "straight" back? does that mean to have a slight arch in your back the whole time? thanks.
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    what do i do on my descent for the DL? i think this is why my lower back is usually sore. i asked a trainer and he said my ascent was fine. he told me to bring hips out first then knees, but i cant really figure out how to do that. so do i lower the weight and slightly round my back to bring the bar to my knees, then squat down?[/QUOTE]

    Down is the opposite of up. Your hips move back and lower the bar to the knees, and the knees bend and lower the bar to the floor. Dont think about squatting the weight anyhow.

    Originally Posted by neelyboy View Post
    ALSO, i know you're not supposed to round your back on DL's/squats, but how do you keep a "straight" back? does that mean to have a slight arch in your back the whole time? thanks.
    Yes, you need to actively arch your back. Did you watch the video?
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    great video and info in the OP. i'm adding DL's to my back day, starting tomorrow (better late than never).
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    is there a post anywhere on the best way to load plates for a deadlift?

    i just started doing them and i think there's gotta be a better way then putting an empty bar on the ground and struggling to put each damn plate on
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    Originally Posted by GripGrand View Post
    is there a post anywhere on the best way to load plates for a deadlift?

    i just started doing them and i think there's gotta be a better way then putting an empty bar on the ground and struggling to put each damn plate on
    Once you put the first 45's on you can just slip a 5 or 10lb plate underneath it to prop it up.
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    Originally Posted by Kiknskreem View Post
    Once you put the first 45's on you can just slip a 5 or 10lb plate underneath it to prop it up.
    45s bro? im just trying to rip 100 right now

    jk thanks that should be perfect
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    Originally Posted by GripGrand View Post
    is there a post anywhere on the best way to load plates for a deadlift?

    i just started doing them and i think there's gotta be a better way then putting an empty bar on the ground and struggling to put each damn plate on
    Lift bar, slide weight on.

    However, if you want it to be slightly easier. Once you get the first 45's on the bar, place a 2.5lb or 5lb plate on either side. Rest the 45s on the very outside edge of the small plates. That gives you enough room to slide the other plates on, without actually lifting the bar up.
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    Have kind of a stupid question but here it is:
    I am currently doing Stiff Leg Deadlifts every other week alternating with Good Mornings on leg day and the person who gave me the routine stated to do just deadlifts on Back day. So I guess the question is going to be what variation of the deadlift should be done on back day?
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    Originally Posted by j_collins View Post
    Have kind of a stupid question but here it is:
    I am currently doing Stiff Leg Deadlifts every other week alternating with Good Mornings on leg day and the person who gave me the routine stated to do just deadlifts on Back day. So I guess the question is going to be what variation of the deadlift should be done on back day?
    Any deadlift works the back and legs... rack pulls probably fit best into a BP split, but SLDL's and regular deadlifts also hit the back hard.
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    Whats the difference between a stiff leg deadlift and a regular one? After reading the first post here it seems that they are the same lift. Am I correct in saying that they are?
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    Stiff leg deadlifts your legs are almost straight except that you don't lockout your knees. You pretty much hinge at the hips, so all the lifting is done by your posterior chain, their is no quad use to get the weight moving in the beginning of the exercise. In the regular deadlift your legs are bent and the beginning portion is started by straightening your legs to get the weight going involving the quads right at the beginning and allowing for more weight to be used. Anyone please jump in if I didn't explain well enough.

    Originally Posted by justanothagirl
    i do romanian deadlifts as well, and these hit the hams and glutes for me hard, so i don't need them hit with regular deads on top of that.

    You can't not hit those muscles with a deadlift.

    Deadlifts actually hit these muscles pretty well depending on how you do them. If you want more back involvement you can alter your technique, but you will still hit these muscles regardless.
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    hey guys,,, one of my friends jus discovered he has hernia , now he used to do heavy deadlifting and squats with the belt on, he said the belt caused t due to the intra abdominal buid up pressure.

    dam am scared out of my mind coz i always use a belt during all my workouts.

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    hey guys,,, one of my friends jus discovered he has hernia , now he used to do heavy deadlifting and squats with the belt on, he said the belt caused t due to the intra abdominal buid up pressure.

    dam am scared out of my mind coz i always use a belt during all my workouts.

    any suggestions from the experienced guys will be helpful

    thanx,
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    I have been deadlifting for over a month now and all was well untill this week. I moved up to 30kg on the bar, which I have to say didn't feel heavy except on my forearms. But later on that day I the bottom of my hamstrings felt tight and a little sore. That was 4 days ago and the tension is easing but still there. Could this be due to a lack of flexability in my hamstrings being overstretched when deadlifting, or could it be due to poor technique? I feel the tension now when I lower the bar, not on the lift.
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    Great information. Thanks!
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    That was a really great recap for me since my freshmen year of hs..... I along the way trying to lift more then I could handle back then actually injured myself causing 3 bulged discs in my lower back/sciatica. I was curious if I should avoid this lift entirely or just learn the proper mechanics and then go from there. My chiropractor said NEVER do this, however it is a great strength builder and helps improve physique like no other.
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    Wink ?

    These videos seem like they well help me alot to, the problem with my DL's is that i never feel like i am pulling with my legs up, always my back. and YES i watched the video. I too have trouble on way back down, bending my back slightly i felt. This led to some type of pull, and pain that i still feel after two months.
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    I have been training for a minute now and thought my form on DL was on-point.

    After viewing this video and putting it into use today, I can tell my DL form was off previously and today I felt REALLY good!!

    Form was ON-POINT, strength felt great! And I already look forward to next week where I will be upping my weight and sets!

    Thanks for the vid and suggest for everyone beginning or not, to view this and just do a self-check.
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    ooo nice video, it should help avoid injuries without proper form.
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