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    Thank you for the help gents!

    What do you all reckon a respectable contest weight is for someone that is 6'0". I am really hoping that cutting doesn't actually take up 11 months lol. Assuming right now I am about 15-16% BF and weigh 215lbs in the AM. That puts me at just around 180-181lbs of LBM.

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    Originally Posted by Blazed View Post
    Thank you for the help gents!

    What do you all reckon a respectable contest weight is for someone that is 6'0". I am really hoping that cutting doesn't actually take up 11 months lol. Assuming right now I am about 15-16% BF and weigh 215lbs in the AM. That puts me at just around 180-181lbs of LBM.

    Sore today from yesterdays session. Going home to see the family and eat some good foods. No gym today, I will hit chest/upper back tomorrow.
    If you truly have 180 lbs of LBM, thats plenty to present a very respectable physique. If you weighed 195 on stage in contest condition....great. But seriously, I wouldnt worry about it. If youre commited to competing....it doesnt matter what your LBM is. Just diet down and display it. Dont get wrapped up in numbers. If you were sitting at 10% right now, id say it wouldnt hurt to bulk a bit, but I would want to make sure I was within range before I made any plans to bulk.
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    Originally Posted by AustrianOakJr View Post
    If you truly have 180 lbs of LBM, thats plenty to present a very respectable physique. If you weighed 195 on stage in contest condition....great. But seriously, I wouldnt worry about it. If youre commited to competing....it doesnt matter what your LBM is. Just diet down and display it. Dont get wrapped up in numbers. If you were sitting at 10% right now, id say it wouldnt hurt to bulk a bit, but I would want to make sure I was within range before I made any plans to bulk.
    Well said, thank you for putting things into perspective for me. That is what I am trying to do, lets say I get down to 10-12% by January I have 5 months before starting a 20 week prep. A slow bulk or just a recomp at maintenance cals might be possible on a UD2.0 style diet. I've done it before and I'm sure this time would be no different.
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    Originally Posted by Blazed View Post
    Well said, thank you for putting things into perspective for me. That is what I am trying to do, lets say I get down to 10-12% by January I have 5 months before starting a 20 week prep. A slow bulk or just a recomp at maintenance cals might be possible on a UD2.0 style diet. I've done it before and I'm sure this time would be no different.
    For sure. If youre at 10-12% by jan (which would be exceptional), I would say a short stint at (or slightly above maintenance) would be beneficial to your metabolism. I wouldnt expect to put on huge amounts of muscle over 5 months....maybe a couple lbs....but even that will be hard because you dont want to add any fat.
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    Yea fat gain at that point would have to be almost non existant and even one or two more lbs of LBM would be more then welcome. And I agree getting to 10-12% by end of january would be quite the feat, but maybe not undoable.
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    Hey man, youre doing great! I would say both you and I are going to have to see how our bodies react to our cutting. We're basically the same stats and everything. I started running like a maniac and wearing ankle weights and heavy boots more often cause my legs and stomach are my current downfall. lol I'm really just hoping to get completely cut with as much muscle mass as I can have for the first show. My arms and chest are my biggest muscles right now so I know that if my arms go from 18" to 16.5" in Nov. 09, then they will look bigger than right now cause I'm chunky and I dont have the definition. Your arms are huge and we're going to look frikkin awesome bro!
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    Thanks for the kind words. I agree about trying to come in completely shredded. I'm hitting the gym tomorrow morning for chest/upper back.

    Diet today was actually good. Since I only ate one meal with the exception of a 90 calorie yogurt for breakfast. Turkey was awesome though. Weighed myself at my parents house on the digi scale 216 naked.
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    Herro! Chest and Upper Back on this Black Friday.

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    Done and done. Fast and furious.

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    So today I feel sore as heck from the lower session yesterday. Upper feels good and it looks like I'll be back in the gym today for Shoulders/Bis/Abs Might throw in a little extra forearm work as I think its one of my bigger weak points. I am also going to be doing an extra shoulder exercise as it is another weak point. My body is just one big weak point at the moment lol.

    I have a more structured diet plan now. Going to be doing a 4 week long 500 below maintenance cruise till new years. That should result in a 2% drop. Maybe slightly more with the addition of a lb of LBM.

    After this 4 week cruising period I am switching over to a UD2.0 style carb cycle diet. I have customized this to include a lot of stuff from the cyclical ketogenic diet as well as protein sparing modified fast. If all goes well I should be able to change body composition at a rate of -1lb of fat +.5lb of muscle a month. Doing this for 4 months should put me where I need to be to start contest prep without ending up too little on stage.

    I am going to make it a point to go purchase a bathroom scale for my apartment as it will be important for tracking depleted and carbed up weights.

    This is going to be a fun self experiment I suppose. I hope maybe a few of you guys reading this get something useful out of this.

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    Got my Scivation diet and routine in my email today. Lando seems like a cool guy. The diet and training aren't much different from what I was doing. Training antagonist pairs is something I have been doing for over a year now. The Carb Haters Anonymous diet is similar to the low carb approach I have been taking but this looks like Keto to me. I am going to give it a shot starting next monday after I get all my supplements ordered.

    I'm also going to have to make a trip to walmart today for a bathroom scale.

    I feel nice and sore after yesterdays workout. No gym today. Chest/Back tomorrow. Also need to find my BF calipers. I know they are somewhere around the apartment.
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    Best of luck on the CHA. Team Scivation gives great support. Its not exactly keto (because of the high protein) just to let you know lol. Keep it up man!
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    Gotcha, well I bought one of those bodyfat/hydration scales for my bathroom today. And I also received my Scivation plan. I guess I will officially start my 48 WEEK CONTEST PREP today. I know these scales are not accurate lol but who knows maybe it will be useful in tracking progress at least.

    Official 48 week out stats

    Height 6' 0.5"
    Weight 218.6lbs
    BF% 15-17% (Scale - 24.7%)
    LBM Estimated 180 (Scale says 166.6)

    Measurements

    Last Month This Month
    Neck:17.3 +/-0 16.9 -.4
    Bicep:17.5 +.5 Left 17.7 +.2 Right 18.1 +.6
    Forearm:12.6 +/-0 Left 13.4 +.8 Right 13 +.4
    Chest:45.7 +1.2 46.4 +.7
    Waist:38.6 -1.1 37.4 -1.2 ( super happy about this)
    Hips:39 -2 39 -/+ 0
    Thigh:26.4 +.4 26.3 -.1
    Calf:15.7 +.4 16.1 +.4

    So everything went up except for waist and quads. Good ****. will take pics tomorrow night after chest/Back.
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    Originally Posted by Blazed View Post
    Got my Scivation diet and routine in my email today. Lando seems like a cool guy. The diet and training aren't much different from what I was doing. Training antagonist pairs is something I have been doing for over a year now. The Carb Haters Anonymous diet is similar to the low carb approach I have been taking but this looks like Keto to me. I am going to give it a shot starting next monday after I get all my supplements ordered.

    I'm also going to have to make a trip to walmart today for a bathroom scale.

    I feel nice and sore after yesterdays workout. No gym today. Chest/Back tomorrow. Also need to find my BF calipers. I know they are somewhere around the apartment.
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    ^ Thats my Little brother. Only he's not that little =(

    Weight this morning 217.6lbs after #1

    Going to hit Upper back and chest later tonight. Pretty excited about it. Diet yesterday was off. I didn't eat enough. Only 1500 cals, will do better today.
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    Originally Posted by Blazed View Post
    Got my Scivation diet and routine in my email today. Lando seems like a cool guy. The diet and training aren't much different from what I was doing. Training antagonist pairs is something I have been doing for over a year now. The Carb Haters Anonymous diet is similar to the low carb approach I have been taking but this looks like Keto to me. I am going to give it a shot starting next monday after I get all my supplements ordered.

    I'm also going to have to make a trip to walmart today for a bathroom scale.

    I feel nice and sore after yesterdays workout. No gym today. Chest/Back tomorrow. Also need to find my BF calipers. I know they are somewhere around the apartment.
    I can't wait to see you progress over the next bunch of months. I used the CHA Diet and then transitioned to the Cut Diet for my last contest prep.

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    I can't wait to see you progress over the next bunch of months. I used the CHA Diet and then transitioned to the Cut Diet for my last contest prep.

    Don't worry...........with Team Scivation you are in good hands. Feel free to email me anytime!
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    I know I'm in good hands. Between Scivation and the watchful eye of my fellow competitors here I think everything should go smoothly.

    Diet today kicked ass. So did the gym

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    bw x 5
    bw x 5
    bw x 3

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    195 x 8
    180 x 7

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    135 x 8

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    80's x 8
    95's x 5 (Pr)
    80's x 6

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    165 x 7
    150 x 7

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    Done and done. Energy was good.

    Added some creatine monohydrate to the mix today. Going to have to go supplement shopping this week so I can start my CHA diet on Monday. Feeling good.
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    I'll definitely be following along. Whenever you talked about UD 2.0 earlier on in the thread, were you referring to Ultimate Diet 2.0? I've been curious about what exactly that entails.

    I did CHA with ATS training for 4 weeks to see what it was all about, it definitely works and after a little tinkering I was steadily dropping 2lbs a week when I dropped it to 2600, though going by the Diabetic Exchange portions instead of calories was something I had to get used to.

    What sort of cardio are you doing with your lifting? Hoping to learn some things from this thread!
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    Yes I did mean Ultimate Diet 2.0.

    Its a carb depletion for 4 1/2 days followed by a day and a half long refeed. with a maintenance day. During the week during depletion you do full body workouts and on the weekends a power workout.
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    Thanks for the feed back guys.

    Today is an off day from the gym. I did stock up on Eggs/Natty PB/FF Cream Cheese today.

    Morning weight 215.8 >.< Yikes low!

    PLanning on sticking to the diet 100% today and getting some rest before hitting lower tomorrow!
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    Weight in the AM 217.4

    Lower Session

    Squats
    45 x a lot
    135 x 8
    155 x 8
    245 x 8
    245 x 8
    245 x 6
    245 x 6 (Set PR)

    DL
    245 x 8
    335 x 3 (PR Since I've been back, and sadly I feel like I could have gotten 3-4 more but my grip was slipping badly due to sweaty palms.

    SLDL
    245 x 8

    Calf Raises
    335 x 12
    355 x 12

    Done and done, legs felt like rubber after.
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    ^ Thats my Little brother. Only he's not that little =(
    No kidding'.............big lad.....

    You guys able to train together???? That would be awesome.....
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    He actually trains on campus, I train at a real gym. We live 2 miles apart though.
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    245x6 on squats is a PR?!
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