Is milk okay PWO?

[tblake87]

I have a ton of vanilla whey left from before I started KETO. But, truth be told, this stuff tastes like sh*t with anything but milk. My PWO meal has been a can of tuna and I don't think 22g of protein is enough for PWO. I know milk isn't KETO friendly, but I also know I can disregard carbs after a workout. So would that make milk okay to use for a PWO shake?

[tayphill]

The casein in milk slows down the digestion of protein which is the opposite of what you want for your PWO shake/meal. Stick to Whey with a bit of dextrose and add water.

[tblake87]

That's what I thought too, just verifying. I'm going to try and force a scoop of this stuff down with water(gag reflex hates it). It seems like just a waste not to use it.

[tayphill]

Add in about 25g of dextrose then, it won't kick you out of ketosis and I definitely sweetens up the shake...I personally hate just Whey and water...and the dextrose will induce a nice insulin spike

[DTill]

The casein in milk slows down the digestion of protein which is the opposite of what you want for your PWO shake/meal. Stick to Whey with a bit of dextrose and add water.

The casein slows it some yes, but the suger (Lactose) speeds it up, same reason creatine it taken with sugars, right? Also I wouldnt think the whey and casein bind, so they should absorb at different times rather you have it with milk or water anyway. I think it may better to take it with milk honestly, I have for a long time. Its more protein in the long run and tastes way better. All these are just my opinions.

In any case I think the difference is trivial at best, non existent at worst; I don't think you will notice a difference of gains if you take it with milk or water. Really its kind of moot, milk has a good bit of carbs in it, which is bad for Keto yeah?

[JIMMY SHOWTIME]

Lactose=sugar


Sometimes the carb counts of dairy products surprise people. Milk has a lot of lactose (milk sugar), while cream looks like it's lower than it is due to the serving size on the container. A tablespoon of cream has a little less than half a gram of carbohydrate, and is labeled as having zero carbs - BUT there are 16 tablespoons in a cup, so the whole cup has about 6? grams of carbohydrate.

Here are the carb counts of a cup (8 fluid ounces) of the following, according to the USDA database. Note: some milks are "protein-fortified", and sometimes powdered milk is added for more "body" - this will alter the carb counts, so be sure to check the label. Also, "cream" varies depending upon the amount of butterfat and lactose.

Whole milk - 11.4 grams of carbohydrate
2 % milk - 11.7
1 % milk - 11.6
Fat-free (skim) milk - 11.9
Buttermilk - 11.7
Goat's milk - 10.9
Half and Half - 10.4
Light Cream - 7.1
Heavy Cream - 6.6

Evaporated milk (canned) - 25.3
Nonfat evaporated - 29.0
Sweetened condensed milk - 166 (not a typo)

Milk Substitutes
Unsweetened soy milk - between 2 and 5, depending upon brand. (Note: Most soy milk is sweetened.)
Unsweetened almond milk - 2-3 grams, depending upon brand - again, most is sweetened
Coconut milk - 6.3

Just find a protein powder that tastes great with water, like ON

That **** is awesome..

Next best is muscle milk but that has carbs..
boo!!!