Just a thought
There are well over 1.5 billion muslims. probably .2 billion of them arent religious (estimate) so arent considered muslim. And a VERY VERY VERY small amount, Probably a few thousand, are terrorists (fake muslims)
Now if you think that islam is a religion of terrorism, And if it REALLY REALLY WAS, Why arent the 1.3 BILLION. Let me repeat, 1 POINT 3 BILLION MUSLIMS killing anyone?
just think about that for a second, and dont put any buts and if's
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07-28-2008, 08:25 PM #1
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For those of you anti muslims
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07-28-2008, 08:29 PM #2
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07-28-2008, 08:32 PM #4
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I dont get what you are trying to say, can you rephrase for a 16 year old evol
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07-28-2008, 08:36 PM #5
lol, just an error on definition on your part is all. You said that there are 1.5 billion Muslims and that .2 of them aren't religious, so not considered Muslim. That .2 stat is unnecessary because by definition Muslims are religious--
"A Muslim (Arabic: مسلم) is an adherent of the religion of Islam. The feminine form is Muslimah[1] (Arabic: مسلمة). Literally, the word means "one who submits (to God)"."
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07-28-2008, 08:39 PM #6
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hey, 16 year old doesn't know how to put it the right way, but hes got something going. Reps for 16 and halfway there..
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07-28-2008, 09:29 PM #7
-You can be violent and not kill people
-Many of them cant be violent because
-They are too old, young weak or sick.
-They are women or supressed in some form.
So it leaves you with a small percentage that can be violent. Look at Europe. Thousands of them marched with banners saying they wanted to kill people. Are you telling me they are not violent people?
I would consider beating say your wife to be an act of violence. Doesnt your book say you can do that. No ifs or buts about stick size.
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07-28-2008, 09:39 PM #8
Honor killings is legal in 22 muslim countries and you don't think theres anything wrong with that?
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07-28-2008, 09:47 PM #9
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07-28-2008, 10:41 PM #10
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It's not the terrorists that are the only problem. It's the people (Muslim or non-Muslim) who refuse to stop them. Thailand is a prime example. There is an insurgency in the south near the Malaysian border. A few thousand people have died over the last decade of this. School teachers are BIG targets (apparently education is bad) and schools are burned to the ground as well. Now, we have a few hundred people carrying out the attacks and we have thousands of people in the area who:
a) don't care who gets killed
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b) support those doing the killing
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c) are scared ****less
I'm guessing that the Thai Buddhists are "c" and that the Thai/Malaysians on the border fall into either "a" or "b" because they don't have anything to fear as they aren't targets of insurgent violence. If they cared, they'd root out the *******s doing the killing because it gives them a bad name and brings a lot of heat from the Thai military on them.
THAT is the problem many people seem to have with Islam and religion in general. People let things slide because no one wants to admit the faults of those who claim their religion. Just like I get embarassed when "Christians" go on about science being evil, I'm sure Muslims feel the same way when someone threatens Jihad on Burger King for having a crescent shaped ice cream cone. EVERYONE who is religious needs to constantly verbally, and physically if necessary, attack those who aim to destroy the religion from the inside.
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07-29-2008, 01:50 AM #11
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07-29-2008, 01:51 AM #12
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07-29-2008, 01:38 PM #16
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You guys are being rediculous.
The initial stat is obviously tainted...1.5 billion Muslims really means 1.5 billion people who CLAIM to be Muslim...the true stat is unknown.
Just like most people in US prisons are Christian...are they really Christian? They claim to be...but that does not make them Christian.
Likewise, the original 1.5B is an estimate, and that is based on what people reveal about themselves.Mark these words in the annals (no homo) of bodybuilding.com.
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07-29-2008, 01:59 PM #17
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actually, you got many numers wrong
it is 1.1 billion muslims, and it is estimated that 10% are followers of extremist clerics, with only a few actively fighting.
the 10% is the feedere line. they only need to be indoctrinated to the thinking and then when the terrorists need them, they recruit in the back rooms. this is how all organizations do it. Trust me, I'm Italian....At my house, we listen to both kinds of music: Led and Zeppelin!
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07-29-2008, 02:02 PM #18
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07-29-2008, 02:28 PM #19
I agree, it is a tiny minority.
But you have to look at the Qu'ran and think: "is this guide giving the right message?"
It tells people to slay non-believers.
Islam in its early days was spread by the sword.
It is not an inherently peaceful religion, and when there are 1.5 billion people, who believe the Qu'ran is the word of god, some people might just interpret parts of it in a violent way.
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07-29-2008, 03:08 PM #20
The Quran was fabricated by their "prophet" Muhammad. He is the founder of Islam and the "perfect" model of Islam. Just read what Muhammad was like and what he did. He was a violent barbarian, and perpetrated atrocities on many, particularly non-believers and women and Jews. Islam is Muhammad and without him there is no Islam.
Just read up on what Muhammad was like and you will understand why Islam is violent, cruel, irrational, dangerous, etc.. Keep in mind many many "muslims" don't know the facts about Muhammad that can be found in their own writings.
http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-...7368723&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Mu...7368663&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Quest-Historic.../dp/1573927872
http://www.amazon.com/Life-Muhammad-...ref=pd_sim_b_2
http://www.amazon.com/Twenty-Three-Y...7369073&sr=1-2
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07-29-2008, 03:29 PM #21
One of the reasons Islam is so brutal is to keep "muslims" from the truth and to keep them in line. Most "muslims" are ignorant about the facts of their religion's founder. The largest group of illiterates and illiterate nations in the world are in the muslim countries. This shouldn't be a surprise given Muhammad the founder himself couldn't read a write. The imams keep the facts from the average muslim.
When muslims find out the truth and start to disbelieve or actually leave, they are faced with potential death. Even moderate muslim countries have death as the penalty for someone who leaves Islam or criticizes it or its "prophet" Muhammad.
None-the-less, those that call themselves "muslims" are genuinely dangerous. Last year I was at a meeting talking about this with a man from Pakistan. He working in the US and is an academic, and is writing a book (under a pen name) about Islam. He no longer believes in Islam and knows it is a mortal danger to the non-muslim world. He regularly goes back to Pakistan to visit family, etc.. But, for his own protection he will not let them know that he is no longer a believer. He said 97% of muslims are genuinely dangerous people. They might show a pleasant exterior when in the company of non-muslims, but at heart they hate non-muslims just as they were taught to so. Many other ex-muslims I know have said just the same. And, of course, we have the real muslims who openly say that too. Just look at what is preached behind closed doors.
Watch this video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...60761490749816
Any war has relatively few fighting actively in the front lines. Most women aren't in the frontlines, most children aren't in the front lines, most old people and others with disabilities aren't there either. But they still support their fighters with other work, money, encouragement, etc.. The 60 year old kindergarten teacher who was a member of the Nazi party was part of the machine that put the world into war. She might not have driven a tank or flew a bomber or manned a gas chamber, but she was doing her part in the war. So to, today, with Islam's jihad against the rest of the world.
The average aircraft carrier has only about 200 fighter pilots attached to it. They are the only ones that are active in warfare. There are, however, over 5,000 others that are part of the crew who stay on ship a long distance from any fighting and never participate in dropping bombs or shooting. None-the-less they are part of the fight.
So, though many muslims aren't bombing, they are part of the crew, if they are sincere muslims. Muhammad is their example and you can see how violent and dangerous and treacherous a man he was if you read about him.
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07-29-2008, 04:41 PM #22
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my question is
why the **** do all you guys pretend to know more than a muslim, seriously, your posts are stupid, make no sense, are false, and you claim to know more than A MUSLIM.
Muslims can do the same thing back, we can talk about how bad the bible and torah has been changed, and how ****ed up your belief's are now, but we respect people of other religions yet we got some *******s who dont show any respect and instead of learning a thing or 2, they say whatever is on their mind and what they think.
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07-29-2008, 04:45 PM #23
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07-29-2008, 04:52 PM #24
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07-29-2008, 04:59 PM #25
I think I know more than most muslims. A substantial number of muslims can't even read or write. I can, and I can read what muslims say about Islam, and I can read what non-muslims say about Islam, and I can read what EX-muslims say about Islam.
ALSO, I can see with my own eyes. The "muslims" in my neighborhood, who don't go to mosques, don't bow to Mecca five times a day and pray, etc., but say that Islam is really peaceful, etc.. don't seem to know the Quran, Hadith, Sunnah, etc.. I can see how prayerful and well-studied the members of Al-Qaeda, Salafists, Muslim Brotherhood, etc., are, and see that their radical and violent version of Islam is the correct version.
ALSO, when bombs go off in India, China, Iraq, London, Madrid, Bali, etc., etc., it's not Mormons, or Quakers, or Catholics, or Episcopalians, or Bahai, etc., then end up being the ones that set off the bombs.
The Olympics are worried about the Jews or Christians or Hindus or even the atheists going to Beijing and blowing up the games. WHY??????
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07-29-2008, 05:02 PM #26
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07-29-2008, 05:05 PM #27
Dear Dr. Islam,
I read your column every week. I have a dilemma. There is a new kebab place on my street, and almost all the restaurants around here suck. It's pretty good, but the problem is, it's run by muslims. I want to eat there, but I don't want to fund terrorism. What should I do?
At the very least it's Halal so if the muslims happen to have it figured out, I'm good to go
The owners did not attempt to attack or shoot or bomb me, can I get an explanationLive Laugh Love,
MantisShrimp
Misc Armchair Counsellor
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07-29-2008, 05:05 PM #28
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07-29-2008, 05:08 PM #29
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07-29-2008, 05:10 PM #30
I ate at a Paki restaurant in a muslim part of L.A. a couple of years ago. Very polite service, but the food was AWFUL!
How many muslims really eat only halal food in the USA?
I know for a fact that most who have Christian/Jewish/secular wives eat whatever the wives put in front of them and keep their mouths shut about whether it is halal or not.
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