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    Originally Posted by SaviorSix View Post
    not all is lost, as long as you're really smart and someting and can make a lot of money. That is the great equalizer
    see thats the thing, I'm not that smart and I goto a community college.

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    Originally Posted by kocain View Post
    I only hope my outlooks can change with age becuase i really don't like this person I have become.
    isnt their like some limb device that makes your limbs longer by turning screws in ur bones or somerthing.I seen it on a show once like 20/20 or something.Its a tad extreme but u only live once.Or u can date midgets!your like a giant to them

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    Originally Posted by kocain View Post
    So here I am again, sitting in my dark room on a saturday night accompanied by internet porn and computer games.

    I try to remember a time when I'm not depressed and that was when I was a kid. A time when I had friends, a time when I didn't care about how I look or how tall I am.

    Present day, I'm 20, and 5'3. what friends I had grew taller and drifted away, I goto a **** school and will probly end up working at mcdonalds,
    I'm still dependent on my parents, I have 0 luck with women, my confidence, ego, self esteem is at rock bottom.

    Its not like I'm not trying to improve but how can you improve height? every time I try to make a change for the better someone is always there to put me down.

    When you are 5'3 people look down on you. They use you as a tool to make themselves feel better, I am treated as a 2nd class human being.

    I try going out to a nightclub once and the councer won't let me in. I tried to talk to girls but they just ignore me or give one word answers then turn their heads away.

    I even tried to ignore all the social life and girls by attempting to do better in school but this depression just manifests itself into a over whelming sense of hopelessness and makes me just quit and give up.

    I am short, stubby and small and my life is going no where. With each passing day I resent my parents more and more. Why would they even conceive me when knowing that everyday for me is pain and torture?

    my body is a prison and I pray for the day that I am set free.
    Man, no brag but im 6'2" 210, cut up, good looking and I have no friends and I just got burned by a stupid slut. Height/weight/looks have little to do with how you live your life. I'm just a ****ing idiotic coward (no thread hijack) just trying to make a point to you

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    Originally Posted by mike0093 View Post
    Man, no brag but im 6'2" 210, cut up, good looking and I have no friends and I just got burned by a stupid slut. Height/weight/looks have little to do with how you live your life. I'm just a ****ing idiotic coward (no thread hijack) just trying to make a point to you
    if your 6"2,210 cut up and good looking with all those problems.....then theres no hope for Kocain.

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    Originally Posted by mchenrycruiser View Post
    if your 6"2,210 cut up and good looking with all those problems.....then theres no hope for Kocain.
    maybe your right..**** I was just trying to make him feel better..sorry kocain

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    only people that should be sorry are my parents

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    Well if you're just upset about not getting women then it's all in your attitude bro. I'm dating a chick who is 5'10 and I'm 5'7 neither of us have a problem with it. Actually all of the chicks I've been with recently were my height or taller.....so height isn't always an issue.

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    Originally Posted by Phreek View Post
    Well if you're just upset about not getting women then it's all in your attitude bro. I'm dating a chick who is 5'10 and I'm 5'7 neither of us have a problem with it. Actually all of the chicks I've been with recently were my height or taller.....so height isn't always an issue.
    hed kill to be 5"7.

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    Originally Posted by mchenrycruiser View Post
    isnt their like some limb device that makes your limbs longer by turning screws in ur bones or somerthing.I seen it on a show once like 20/20 or something.Its a tad extreme but u only live once.Or u can date midgets!your like a giant to them
    I'm going to look into that

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    Originally Posted by kocain View Post
    I'm going to look into that
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    I'm 5'8" and I have to look up to everybody...chicks won't even pay attention to me, they simply aren't willing to give me a chance. Hell even chicks that are shorter than me won't look twice because I am shorter than they are with heels.

    Thread starter I am just like you, except a few inches taller.

    a commanding prescence, power, confidence, and seriousness is something we simply cannot convey due to our genetics, and sadly enough, these are the qualities that turn women on. We aren't tall, our shoulders aren't broad, and we get treated like 12 year olds. We can't expect to be the guys banging all the hot women, they are reserved for the 5'10"+ guys.

    As another poster said, some of us are just destined to not enjoy some things in life, such as ****ing girls or having a social life. WE SIMPLY ARE NOT DESIRABLE TO WOMEN.

    OP if you wanna talk feel free to PM me man, I feel your pain and I get EXTREMELY depressed about it to the point where I think I shuld just end my life and get it over with.

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    Originally Posted by kocain View Post
    napoleon was 5'6, I would kill to be 5'6
    so do it....just don't kill yourself
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    Originally Posted by Edudbor View Post
    Your life isn't **** because you are 5'3"

    I'm not saying that as an insult, but it's the truth. As long as you blame your problems on being short - you'll never address the real issues.

    1.) Your friends don't give a **** how tall you are. One of my best friends from high school is 6'5". Besides, there are plenty of short guys out there you could be friends with.

    2.) You go to a **** school....okay - then transfer. Or graduate with a degree, score well on your GRE and enter a graduate program at a better school. That **** has *zero* to do with your height or looks.

    3.) You think you'll probably end up working at McDonalds. WTF? How can you blame that on your height?

    4.) You're in college, being dependent on your parents isn't a big deal. If you don't get a **** job at McDonalds after you graduate you can stop being dependent on them. Again, nothing to do with your height.

    5.) You say you have 0 luck with women....I'm not going to lie to you; women are shallow as ****. Lots of girls won't date a guy who is shorter than they are. Does that mean zero women will date you because you are short? Hell no. Find yourself a short girl. I'm 5'8" and I know that my odds of striking up a conversation with a girl who is 5'8" is a lot less than the same girl who is 5'2". But - how many girls do you need? One. You need one girl, you get married, have kids, spend the rest of your life together. Use the internet, create a profile on a bunch of dating sites that say you are 5'3". Girls who don't want a short guy will ignore it. The other girls who aren't turned off by it won't ignore it.

    Hell, go find a college gymnastics club to join. 100% serious here. At 5'8" I was the tallest guy in my club, most guys were down around 5'4" and the girls were all tiny as ****, for the most part. And hot too. Great place to meet chicks, since there are like 4 chicks for every 1 dude and half the dudes are gay.

    6.) Confidence, Ego, Self Esteem - those are all things YOU control. Nobody else. Being short is only ruining your life because you think being short is ruining your life.

    When I was in high school, I had acne. Acne sucks, nobody will tell you other wise. I thought acne was the reason why I wasn't 'cooler' or more social, more popular and why I wasn't Mr. Smooth with the ladies. I went on Accutane in college and BAM, in a month I had perfect skin....

    For 7 years or so I thought my life wasn't perfect because I had bad skin. Do you know what changed when I had clear skin? Not much. My odds of meeting a girl at a party went from about 10% up to about 12%. The rest of the **** I didn't like about my life, that I thought would be different if only I didn't have acne...none of it changed. Because acne wasn't the problem. IF you could blame acne at all, the biggest thing was ME THINKING it was the problem. So I'd blow off something because *I* thought a pimple would ruin my night - and then it did, because I stayed home. If you think being short is going to ruin your fun, you're going to end up staying home too, and then you'll be right.

    A lot of guys come to BB.com because they think if they just gain some muscle their life will change. They'll become more attractive, cooler, do better in school, land an amazing job, and become this total alpha-guy. But all that really happens is they gain some muscle and lose some fat.

    Hell, I know a lot of guys that used to think their life would be perfect if they could just get together with the girl of their dreams. In high school you see this all the time. A guy gets a crush on some girl that is out of his league and he crushes on her for a year or two and spends his nights thinking how great his life would be if he could just get with a girl like her. She'd magically change his life, she'd be the perfect girl for him, and everything would be great.

    But that's just not how life works. Talk to some married guys, talk to some engaged guys, yes - having a girl is great. But all those problems they thought it would solve...it doesn't.

    When you get older, people have bills and **** to worry about and jobs they hate. They are also much more likely to have a GF/wife so they don't focus on girls anymore. So, instead, they focus on $$$. They'd be happier, so much happier if they could just afford a ______. A new house, a sports car, a trip to Italy, some new furniture....that's all they need. And they day dream about winning the lotto and retiring and everything they'd do with 43 million dollars....

    But none of those things actually make them happy. None of those things fix their lives. They've done studies that show the more materialistic you are, the *less* happy you'll be. Believe it or not, most lottery winners end up LESS HAPPY after they have the money than before they won it.

    The real key is to find what matters to YOU. To make a life that YOU can live with. To do that, you need to stop giving a **** what other people think about you. Some bitch at a club who doesn't want to give you the time of day - that doesn't mean ****. Some guy who doesn't think you're **** because you're 5'3" - who the **** cares what he thinks? Everyone you meet in this world will have an opinion of you; but the only opinion that matters is your own. How you view yourself. Live a life that you are proud of and you'll be happy.
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    Originally Posted by muhuwahaha View Post
    I'm 5'8" and I have to look up to everybody...chicks won't even pay attention to me, they simply aren't willing to give me a chance. Hell even chicks that are shorter than me won't look twice because I am shorter than they are with heels.

    Thread starter I am just like you, except a few inches taller.

    a commanding prescence, power, confidence, and seriousness is something we simply cannot convey due to our genetics, and sadly enough, these are the qualities that turn women on. We aren't tall, our shoulders aren't broad, and we get treated like 12 year olds. We can't expect to be the guys banging all the hot women, they are reserved for the 5'10"+ guys.

    As another poster said, some of us are just destined to not enjoy some things in life, such as ****ing girls or having a social life. WE SIMPLY ARE NOT DESIRABLE TO WOMEN.

    OP if you wanna talk feel free to PM me man, I feel your pain and I get EXTREMELY depressed about it to the point where I think I shuld just end my life and get it over with.
    you understand my pain brother, the depression of being short has menifest itself into all aspects of my life, to the point where i just given up.

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    your attitude is your problem. like someone else said...friends dont care how tall you are...but they do care if you are acting like a depressed, needy a-hole crying all the time. your surroundings are a reflection of your mood. change your mood, and your surroundings will change with it. and while moods are chemical and often influence your thoughts more immediatley and powerfully, your logically thoughts can eventually change your moods through time with practice. seek out some therapy so you can find some techniques to accomplish that. trust me, even though im not short, i've gone through some serious **** myself where i've been hospitalized due to mental disorders. if i can help myself without drugs, you can do it with what you consider 'depression'
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    look at it this way man, you have no where to go but up. self pity will ruin you. you are stuck with being that height and there is NOTHING u can do to change it. you are blaming your height for all your problems.. this is your ego trying to trick you and letting your mind control you is what is driving you into depression and loneliness. download the audiobook "the power of now" from a pirated source or buy it and listen to it over and over until you completely understand EVERYTHING inside of it. i have dealt with the same **** and i know there is light at the end of the tunnel. i was severely depressed and on the verge of suicide, panic attacks and thought i was schizo but this audiobook basically saved my life. you can turn your life around. if i had one wish in my life it would be for you to listen to this audiobook... it is THAT life changing. u owe it to yourself to stop the madness and find true peace.

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    Originally Posted by kocain View Post
    So here I am again, sitting in my dark room on a saturday night accompanied by internet porn and computer games.

    I try to remember a time when I'm not depressed and that was when I was a kid. A time when I had friends, a time when I didn't care about how I look or how tall I am.

    Present day, I'm 20, and 5'3. what friends I had grew taller and drifted away, I goto a **** school and will probly end up working at mcdonalds,
    I'm still dependent on my parents, I have 0 luck with women, my confidence, ego, self esteem is at rock bottom.

    Its not like I'm not trying to improve but how can you improve height? every time I try to make a change for the better someone is always there to put me down.

    When you are 5'3 people look down on you. They use you as a tool to make themselves feel better, I am treated as a 2nd class human being.

    I try going out to a nightclub once and the councer won't let me in. I tried to talk to girls but they just ignore me or give one word answers then turn their heads away.

    I even tried to ignore all the social life and girls by attempting to do better in school but this depression just manifests itself into a over whelming sense of hopelessness and makes me just quit and give up.

    I am short, stubby and small and my life is going no where. With each passing day I resent my parents more and more. Why would they even conceive me when knowing that everyday for me is pain and torture?

    my body is a prison and I pray for the day that I am set free.
    What's more depressing is your name, i.e. kocain. Either you're pretending your cool or you're too stupid to spell properly.

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    Look bro dont worry about something like that dude....go out have a good time and if somebody calls u short who gives a ****. I spend 3 years of my high school time at home on the computer and not going out at all. Now life is soo much better, i go out with friends party have a good time. your friends wont judge u cause of your height. to this day i have no made out with a girl and i regret it sooo much cause the day i finally do, i will look like an idiot cause ill have no clue what im doing(ture??). That **** dont stop me from going to partys and looking to hook up with w/e bitch comes my way. enjoy life man.

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    Originally Posted by muhuwahaha View Post
    I'm 5'8" and I have to look up to everybody...chicks won't even pay attention to me, they simply aren't willing to give me a chance. Hell even chicks that are shorter than me won't look twice because I am shorter than they are with heels.

    Thread starter I am just like you, except a few inches taller.

    a commanding prescence, power, confidence, and seriousness is something we simply cannot convey due to our genetics, and sadly enough, these are the qualities that turn women on. We aren't tall, our shoulders aren't broad, and we get treated like 12 year olds. We can't expect to be the guys banging all the hot women, they are reserved for the 5'10"+ guys.

    As another poster said, some of us are just destined to not enjoy some things in life, such as ****ing girls or having a social life. WE SIMPLY ARE NOT DESIRABLE TO WOMEN.

    OP if you wanna talk feel free to PM me man, I feel your pain and I get EXTREMELY depressed about it to the point where I think I shuld just end my life and get it over with.
    +1

    It's not ****ing fair, but its the ****ing truth. I'm 5'6" and 18 and never had a date or anything. And to people who say well you don't try or some BS, you don't know what your talking about. Honest to god some guys can just say hi to a girl and they are all over him, but if I say hi how are you to a random girl this is the reactions I get. I get either one word answers which obviosuly means disinterest, or they go to their friends and tell them I am creepy. I have been told that girls have said I am creepy and all I did was try to make conversation. HOW THE **** IS THAT CREEPY?!? I do have weird traits like staring into space and stuff which may have been the reason for some of it, but its more the fact that I am 5'6" and considered unattractive as a result. If saying hi to a girl to try to be nice is so creepy, then how come some guys can do it and there considered Nice? The reason is that they are attractive and I am not. When an attractive guy is doing that he is "nice" and when I do that I am "creepy". ITS BULL****. And I ****ing work out and run all the time, I work out 3 times a week and run 6 times a week usually 4-5 miles, i'm in good shape and work out more than most people that I know. I am buff too and not fat, but I'm short and probably have an ugly face so IT DON'T MATTER. But I will never give up because If i do ever realize my dream and find a woman it will be euphoric, so I must never give up.

    muhuwahaha and kocain you can PM me or IM me on AIM at Hammertime11790 if you want, I know your pain. Please muhuwahaha don't kill yourself, keep trying and if you do and realize your dreams of a woman you will be in euphoria. You can't give up, you just can't. I feel horrible all the time too, I have always been depressed the way girls treat me like **** and a lot of other social problems i've had that are unrelated, but I will always keep trying and try to learn from past mistakes.
    u mad?

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    Originally Posted by kocain View Post
    So here I am again, sitting in my dark room on a saturday night accompanied by internet porn and computer games.

    I try to remember a time when I'm not depressed and that was when I was a kid. A time when I had friends, a time when I didn't care about how I look or how tall I am.

    Present day, I'm 20, and 5'3. what friends I had grew taller and drifted away, I goto a **** school and will probly end up working at mcdonalds,
    I'm still dependent on my parents, I have 0 luck with women, my confidence, ego, self esteem is at rock bottom.

    Its not like I'm not trying to improve but how can you improve height? every time I try to make a change for the better someone is always there to put me down.

    When you are 5'3 people look down on you. They use you as a tool to make themselves feel better, I am treated as a 2nd class human being.

    I try going out to a nightclub once and the councer won't let me in. I tried to talk to girls but they just ignore me or give one word answers then turn their heads away.

    I even tried to ignore all the social life and girls by attempting to do better in school but this depression just manifests itself into a over whelming sense of hopelessness and makes me just quit and give up.

    I am short, stubby and small and my life is going no where. With each passing day I resent my parents more and more. Why would they even conceive me when knowing that everyday for me is pain and torture?

    my body is a prison and I pray for the day that I am set free.
    Two words: Muggsy Bogues. NBA superstar and one of the most popular Charlotte Hornets of all time; 14 years in the NBA. Don't hear him bitching about his height.

    "Bogues made a cameo appearance in TV series Curb Your Enthusiasm playing himself, sharing a restroom with Larry David and Richard Lewis and nearly having an altercation with David after catching them looking at his penis while urinating."

    ROFL!!

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    Originally Posted by kocain View Post
    you understand my pain brother, the depression of being short has menifest itself into all aspects of my life, to the point where i just given up.
    Are you asian? Maybe its just the culture you are in that is affecting you, more than your height.

    You might not belong here. A lot of asians in the U.S. have built-in communities. This is for a very good reason.

    If you are a stand-alone asian family, that is probably what is bothering you more than anything.

    Although if you live in California you shouldnt have a problem.

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    Doesn't Gustavo Badell have a hot wife? Isn't he a short ass?

    Before I joined the 666 Crew, I was 5'9. I had no problem with it; because at that time I was a lean 215lb and what I lost in height I made up for in width and thickness. Start lifting. Chicks won't think you're overcompensating too much.

    Or, you could join the 666 Crew and grow up and get massive.

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    Originally Posted by YoungGunner24s View Post
    Are you asian? Maybe its just the culture you are in that is affecting you, more than your height.

    You might not belong here. A lot of asians in the U.S. have built-in communities. This is for a very good reason.

    If you are a stand-alone asian family, that is probably what is bothering you more than anything.

    Although if you live in California you shouldnt have a problem.
    ROFL!!

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    Originally Posted by RIP Quorthon View Post
    Doesn't Gustavo Badell have a hot wife? Isn't he a short ass?

    Before I joined the 666 Crew, I was 5'9. I had no problem with it; because at that time I was a lean 215lb and what I lost in height I made up for in width and thickness. Start lifting. Chicks won't think you're overcompensating too much.

    Or, you could join the 666 Crew and grow up and get massive.
    Gustavo is the same height as Jay Cutler and Ronnie.

    Hes also a mass monster. Mass monsters sexually attract a certain type of freak that loves muscles. Of course any obnoxiously large bodybuilder is going to land an attractive wife.

    Ever been in a club with any well-muscled guys? The chicks are all over it.

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    Originally Posted by RIP Quorthon View Post
    Two words: Muggsy Bogues. NBA superstar and one of the most popular Charlotte Hornets of all time; 14 years in the NBA. Don't hear him bitching about his height.

    "Bogues made a cameo appearance in TV series Curb Your Enthusiasm playing himself, sharing a restroom with Larry David and Richard Lewis and nearly having an altercation with David after catching them looking at his penis while urinating."

    ROFL!!
    I agree that height doesn't set some people back, and it isn't a reason to give up, but it truly does set most people back. It is a huge set-back in life to be below 5'9"-5'10", there are exception to the rules but 90% of people don't have the ability to be the king of the party, or else everyone would be the king of the party and be able to make everyone laugh and ****. And to be in my height range or kocains you have to have that great personality or you have to be very hansom if you want to be able to get a lot of girls at our height. But I believe there is someone out their for everyone, even me, so I will never NEVER give up.
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    Originally Posted by YoungGunner24s View Post
    Are you asian? Maybe its just the culture you are in that is affecting you, more than your height.

    You might not belong here. A lot of asians in the U.S. have built-in communities. This is for a very good reason.

    If you are a stand-alone asian family, that is probably what is bothering you more than anything.

    Although if you live in California you shouldnt have a problem.
    I'm white, and when I feel like **** every day I cant get anything done, forget school work.

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    Originally Posted by WillyBHardigin View Post
    The speech can be thrown away as cliche, but you need to actually apply "take the hits" to your life.

    Don't want to do something? Too bad, take the hit.

    Don't want to deal with something? Too bad take the hit and make it work.

    Taking hits is what life is about, sly is right.

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    Originally Posted by kocain View Post
    I'm white, and when I feel like **** every day I cant get anything done, forget school work.
    Why are you 5'3 and white? Did you eat regular as a kid?

    I drank insane amounts of milk throughout my entire life and ended up at 6'2. I am taller than both my parents, my grandfather is at least 6 feet though so I guess I had some genetics.

    If I have kids some day, I will make sure they do the same.
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