Anderson vs Fedor

[Greg1983]

I was kidding about the troll account. Yes, this thread was about Fedor-Anderson and the weight is a non-issue. 220 vs 230 is nothing. And of those other HW fighters on his list, id take Anderson over 5 of the 7.

We don't really know how comfortable Anderson is at that weight yet. I know he's a beast at a fight weight of 200 (estimate). However, I'd like to see him against some more elite 205ers (no disrespect to Irvin) before I say weight shouldn't be an issue.

[hfce354]

This has got to be the dumbest thing i have ever heard. This is a joke and a silva nuthugger response.

IN NO WAY IS SILVA IN THE SAME CLASS AS FEDOR.

Fedors game planning/ mental focus/ skills are way above anyone elses. Look at the fighters Fedor fought compared to Silva. Fedor has beaten almoste every single top 15 HW in the world. I mean demolished them. Silva has beaten Hendo (only legit person he beat) and Franklin (overated 185 div was weak).

Fedor doesn't wait and sick back feel out his opponent. He takes it too him. He tries to overwhelm you right from the beginning.

ITs post like yours that are so irritating in the MMA community.

So i assume you chose to HATE and not celebrate.

This is a legitimate question that will come up more and more now that Silva has come up to 205 with ease. Get used to it. BTW, i believe Fedor would somehow win but not with as much ease as some folks suggest.

[hfce354]

We don't really know how comfortable Anderson is at that weight yet. I know he's a beast at a fight weight of 200 (estimate). However, I'd like to see him against some more elite 205ers (no disrespect to Irvin) before I say weight shouldn't be an issue.

He was weighing 100 kg or 220 lbs 7 days before this fight. He was well over 200.

[Greg1983]

He was weighing 100 kg or 220 lbs 7 days before this fight. He was well over 200.

Oh he definitely was for this fight. But I don't think 30 seconds against James Irvin (even though he looked great for those 30 seconds) is enough to say he's as comfortable at 220 as he is at 200 or whatever he weighs for his MW fights. He put on a lot of weight in a short period of time, and to see how good he is at that weight, we'd need to see some fights against some better competition.

[Whey Hey]

Yeah, Anderson said he walked around naturally at 220lbs, which would mean he would be fighting Fedor on a level playing field, not moving up too much weight or dropping down too much to be at his best.

However, Fedor would win hands down in my opinion. Silva is great as we know, but Fedors strength is crazy, and his persistence is so admirable. Take the Randleman fight, he almost got his neck broken from that slam which would knock most people out cold, but he got up and Kimura'd him for the win.

I would say Fedor 100%, but it would be an interesting fight for sure.

[hfce354]

Oh he definitely was for this fight. But I don't think 30 seconds against James Irvin (even though he looked great for those 30 seconds) is enough to say he's as comfortable at 220 as he is at 200 or whatever he weighs for his MW fights. He put on a lot of weight in a short period of time, and to see how good he is at that weight, we'd need to see some fights against some better competition.

Your logic is sound but there was a comfort level that Anderson had last night that transcends weight.

[Dark_MadMax]

Fedor defeated some very dangerous strikers:

Semmy Schilt (K1 Legend - no less)
Mirko at his prime

I dont think Silva will bring something Fedor has never faced before

[hfce354]

Fedor defeated some very dangerous strikers:

Semmy Schilt (K1 Legend - no less)
Mirko at his prime

I dont think Silva will bring something Fedor has never faced before

Best point yet! Id rep if i had some.

[adoniscomplex]

1. Fedor
2. Nog
3. Barnett
4. Mirko
5. Couture/Arlovski/Sylvia...

All these people I would put above Anderson Silva in a fight.

Like I said, Anderson has to still prove himself if he wants to be called the best fighter on the planet. There are 205 pounders that Anderson Silva probably can't get past much less HWs.

hahahaha mirko !!!????!!!
who has he beat in the last 3 years ?
he got the **** kicked out of him in the ufc

\i am a mirko fan but come on

[adoniscomplex]

i dont think anderson could handle fedor i think he would be too small ,
since anderson is a mw and all , i dont think he shouldnt be expected to try to fight fedor

i would bet he would last longer then timmy

[Gymblaster]

No poll in here because they are always manipulated.

After seeing Silva manhandle a good sized LHW, is it so farfetched to think that he could defeat Fedor? He was 220lbs 1 week before he weighed in, so weight issues are mute and should not be discussed.

I think it would be a sick matchup and a very hard fight to pick. A. Silva would be as quick or quicker then Fedor, whcih would negate one of Fedor's major strengths. Anderson has top notch BJJ and submissions, which would counter Fedor on the ground. Striking is an advantage to Anderson if you ask me.

Just discuss and dont hate, celebrate.

It would be a good fight.

[Z49]

hahahaha mirko !!!????!!!
who has he beat in the last 3 years ?
he got the **** kicked out of him in the ufc

\i am a mirko fan but come on

Well since you asked.

Mirko beat Wanderlei Silva(one of the best 205 pounders in the world).

And he beat Josh Barnett(top 5 HW).

Anymore questions?

[Richie_Awesome]

This has got to be the dumbest thing i have ever heard. This is a joke and a silva nuthugger response.

IN NO WAY IS SILVA IN THE SAME CLASS AS FEDOR.

Fedors game planning/ mental focus/ skills are way above anyone elses. Look at the fighters Fedor fought compared to Silva. Fedor has beaten almoste every single top 15 HW in the world. I mean demolished them. Silva has beaten Hendo (only legit person he beat) and Franklin (overated 185 div was weak).

Fedor doesn't wait and sick back feel out his opponent. He takes it too him. He tries to overwhelm you right from the beginning.

ITs post like yours that are so irritating in the MMA community.

Agreed completely!

[Richie_Awesome]

Fedor defeated some very dangerous strikers:

Semmy Schilt (K1 Legend - no less)
Mirko at his prime

I dont think Silva will bring something Fedor has never faced before

x 2

[US_Ranger]

No poll in here because they are always manipulated.

After seeing Silva manhandle a good sized LHW, is it so farfetched to think that he could defeat Fedor? He was 220lbs 1 week before he weighed in, so weight issues are mute and should not be discussed.

I think it would be a sick matchup and a very hard fight to pick. A. Silva would be as quick or quicker then Fedor, whcih would negate one of Fedor's major strengths. Anderson has top notch BJJ and submissions, which would counter Fedor on the ground. Striking is an advantage to Anderson if you ask me.

Just discuss and dont hate, celebrate.

This thread sucks.

You're talking a big heavyweight who's dominating versus someone who normally fights at 185 and could do well at 205. This shouldn't even be discussed.

[Z49]

This thread sucks.

You're talking a big heavyweight who's dominating versus someone who normally fights at 185 and could do well at 205. This shouldn't even be discussed.

You'd think it'd be that simple, huh?

Obviously the delusional Anderson Silva fanboys don't seem to think so.

[hfce354]

This thread sucks.

You're talking a big heavyweight who's dominating versus someone who normally fights at 185 and could do well at 205. This shouldn't even be discussed.

It is a question that will be raised alot over the next year or so. Just because im one of the first to raise it doesnt make me a villian. I actually think Fedor would win, just not by mutilation as it seems most others believe.

[hfce354]

There is alot of hate in this thread. This is like a social experiment, lol. I asked a question, and asked everyone to respond without hate. The exact opposite happens. LOL.

One example of a response i get is someone posting there Top 5 or so fighters and they are all HW's, LOL. Asking someone who they rank in the Top 5 and getting that response is "trollish" even if they didnt intend it. Someone defends him or her but apperently didnt read my initial question.

At some point i make it clear that i think Fedor would win but the negativity continues, lol. It seems that just the question itself is blasphemy.

One neg i recieve has a little story in it, which indicates a lack of reading comprehension.

The 2 reps i recieve are just polite responses.

It's all good but this Forum is funny sometimes.

[Richie_Awesome]

Fedor just beat the #3 heavyweight in the world and Silva beat the #16 LHW.

According to

http://zewkey.com/rankingstest.htm

[Bonifacius]

I would pick Anderson in this

[adoniscomplex]

Well since you asked.

Mirko beat Wanderlei Silva(one of the best 205 pounders in the world).

And he beat Josh Barnett(top 5 HW).

Anymore questions?

he also lost to ganzaga and kongo
then asked to leave the ufc cause he couldnt handle to lose another fight

[IronMan316]

It would all depend on what weight class the fight took place IMO. At LHW much of Fedor's size advantage would be nullified so it could be pretty close. At HW Silva would probably get handled. Fedor is a soft 230lbs so it's not unreasonable to think he could get down to 205 without many problems.

[HulkHagen]

No poll in here because they are always manipulated.

After seeing Silva manhandle a good sized LHW, is it so farfetched to think that he could defeat Fedor? He was 220lbs 1 week before he weighed in, so weight issues are mute and should not be discussed.

I think it would be a sick matchup and a very hard fight to pick. A. Silva would be as quick or quicker then Fedor, whcih would negate one of Fedor's major strengths. Anderson has top notch BJJ and submissions, which would counter Fedor on the ground. Striking is an advantage to Anderson if you ask me.

Just discuss and dont hate, celebrate.

If Fedor got on top of Anderson he would likely GnP the dog **** out of him. Fedor made Nog's guard look worthless, and Nog is bigger than Anderson and atleast as good at submissions, probably better. Fedor's sub defense and ground positioning are what make his GnP so accurate... he can throw bombs and not have to worry about getting caught from the bottom as much because he's a submission whiz himself. I'd say he's easily a black-belt level in BJJ, he just chooses to list Sambo as his discipline instead.

[adoniscomplex]

Fedor just beat the #3 heavyweight in the world and Silva eat the #16 LHW.

According to

http://zewkey.com/rankingstest.htm

off topic
those rankings suck
fedor isnt even listed
randy is 7th at hw , 4 below timmy , who you beat recently

chuck is much higher then 10th at lhw
and they have tyson griffen at #2 lw above gomi , wtf

[hfce354]

Fedor just beat the #3 heavyweight in the world and Silva beat the #16 LHW.

According to

http://zewkey.com/rankingstest.htm

I subscribe to Fightmatrix, which had Tim as Number 9 and Irvin at 23.

http://www.fightmatrix.com/

Anderson beat the 23rd or 16th ranked fighter exactly the way he is supposed to if he is near the top. How does this support any arguement you are trying to make?

I maintain that Anderson-Fedor would be a great fight and i know even the haters would pay to see it.

[BlackRadio]

Ok, if Anderson is nowhere near the best then i need to know your TOP 5 or 10. Please. Your credibility is an issue here.

Ill show you mine

1. Anderson
2. Fedor *moved up one*
3. Torres *moved down one*
4. GSP
5. Penn
6. Aoki
7. Gomi
8. Machida
9. Faber
10. Filho

Honorable mention
Forrest

who has anderson really beat to make him the best in the world?

[I OuTsiDeR I]

So i assume you chose to HATE and not celebrate.

This is a legitimate question that will come up more and more now that Silva has come up to 205 with ease. Get used to it. BTW, i believe Fedor would somehow win but not with as much ease as some folks suggest.

Best point yet! Id rep if i had some.

I dont' HATE Anderson Silva. He is a great fighter. But im not DUMB enough to say that he can defeat or give Fedor the fight of his life. Everyone thought that that Tim was gonna give Fedor the fight of his life, it was practicially one of the shortest ones in his career.

He beats one guy at 205 now you peg him as GOD to MMA. I don't even like Fedor but at least im honest and not a nuthugger.

[Nitric Oxide]

i'd rather see silva get outstriked by kongo

[hfce354]

If Fedor got on top of Anderson he would likely GnP the dog **** out of him. Fedor made Nog's guard look worthless, and Nog is bigger than Anderson and atleast as good at submissions, probably better. Fedor's sub defense and ground positioning are what make his GnP so accurate... he can throw bombs and not have to worry about getting caught from the bottom as much because he's a submission whiz himself. I'd say he's easily a black-belt level in BJJ, he just chooses to list Sambo as his discipline instead.

I dont disagree as i think this is how Fedor would end the fight but not in the 1st round. I think there is also a slight chance the fight is stopped on a cut and Fedor loses. Assuming they stay on their feet, it would be an absolute war and id pay double to see it.

[Richie_Awesome]

I subscribe to Fightmatrix, which had Tim as Number 9 and Irvin at 23.

http://www.fightmatrix.com/

Anderson beat the 23rd or 16th ranked fighter exactly the way he is supposed to if he is near the top. How does this support any arguement you are trying to make?

I maintain that Anderson-Fedor would be a great fight and i know even the haters would pay to see it.

The argument that I am making is much like others that have been made(forgive me for bringing nothing new to the table.)

And that is that Fedor beat top 10, whether it be 3 or 9 and Silva did not, in a lesser weight class nonetheless.