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    Raising Testosterone to 1,000 ng/dl

    Assuming diet is on point after a year of heeding the stickies, and a solid workout routine, how would a 25-32 year range male raise testosterone levels to 1,000 ng/dl if level is still hovering around 600 ng/dl?
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    There is no way OP...no legal way. If you get adequate fats for hormone production, workout, have relatively low body fat, then you're doing everything you can really do. Even if you could do something to boost it a bit, there's no way it would be enough to boost it from 600 to 1000.
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    In this topic for some answers.

    Why do you want such high test?
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    Originally Posted by VmissileX View Post
    Why do you want such high test?
    A few decades ago, men had higher levels of testosterone than they do today. I'm trying to do whatever I can to prevent such a rapid decrease in testosterone that naturally occurs with age. I would like it to be more steady, or at least maintain higher levels than the average person my age.

    Some benefits include:

    -Improved muscle growth, libido, cognition, mood, general well-being and brain health in men
    -Resistance to certain disease's that onset later in life
    -Reduced body fat
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    Originally Posted by naturalist View Post
    Assuming diet is on point after a year of heeding the stickies, and a solid workout routine, how would a 25-32 year range male raise testosterone levels to 1,000 ng/dl if level is still hovering around 600 ng/dl?
    Your number is at the high end of normal range for your age. There's nothing you can do (legally) to increase it other than to eat, sleep, and exercise well.




    BTW, while a bump to 1K looks like a lot on paper, IRL, it probably won't do much for muscle increase, if anything at all; it would still fall within 'normal' range.




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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Your number is at the high end of normal range for your age.
    My levels were exactly 584 ng/dl last month. That's "average to below average" for my age. I'm trying to get to at least to the 700-800 range.

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    Originally Posted by naturalist View Post
    A few decades ago, men had higher levels of testosterone than they do today. I'm trying to do whatever I can to prevent such a rapid decrease in testosterone that naturally occurs with age. I would like it to be more steady, or at least maintain higher levels than the average person my age.

    Some benefits include:

    -Improved muscle growth, libido, cognition, mood, general well-being and brain health in men
    -Resistance to certain disease's that onset later in life
    -Reduced body fat
    Is testosterone quite that important?

    Maybe its just me in my youth, but libido, mood, cognition,etc have never quite been a problem for me. I'm not quite strong, but I blame that to past poor nutrition and no physical exercise.

    I'm gonna agree with ironwill, will it quite really make much of a difference?

    I can't say much, but i'm sure if you lift and stay healthy as you age, you should be fine...right?

    I mean look at ironwills stats at his age.
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    Originally Posted by naturalist View Post
    My levels were exactly 584 ng/dl last month. That's "average to below average" for my age. I'm trying to get to at least to the 700-800 range.
    Again, no ethical MD will prescribe HRT for someone who measures anywhere within the normal range.

    And again, such a relatively small increase would be of little/no value as far as mass-building is concerned.


    Let it be clear that I am not promoting, nor am I curious, in anything illegal.
    Understood, but any such discussion is against forum rules, even in PMs.


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    Originally Posted by naturalist View Post
    My levels were exactly 584 ng/dl last month. That's "average to below average" for my age. I'm trying to get to at least to the 700-800 range.

    Let it be clear that I am not promoting, nor am I curious, in anything illegal.
    Below average?? You're lucky, that's quite good. I am really really really jealous.
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    Best you can do is
    - sleep 8+ hours every night
    - maintain low bodyfat
    - eat plenty of saturated fat
    - eat eggs for arachidonic acid
    - eat plenty of red meat for zinc
    - get 25[OH]D levels to 40-50 ng/dl (supplement with vitamin D if you must)
    - don't be deficient in any micronutrients, many play a part in regulating normal t-levels
    - perhaps supplement with small amounts of magnesium
    - don't drink alcohol

    I'd say that these things will get your t-levels as high as your genetics allow you to. That might very well be <1000 ng/dl so perhaps you'll never get there.

    And testosterone levels in the physiological range won't really do much for muscle building btw, although it can hugely affect energy, mood, libido, fat deposition etc
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