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    Hi Everyone,

    I'm back. Just to let you all know, I am also doing Serge's training, but at this phase of my body transformation, I am more focused on shedding fat from my physique. As you all probably know, Serge's method can be used like a cardio program as well, depending on how many sets, reps, rest time, and weight you use. So I am building quality muscle, which is burning my fat away. I can't wait until the fat has melted so much that you can actually see the muscle beneath. I am also building endurance and a strong heart. Doing those supersets for arms really get your heart pumping. And, I get pumps, even the way I do this traing, that lasts for days! Serge's program is THE TRUTH!

    After I have trimmed the fat and I can clearly see the shape of my physique, I'm going to really focus on SHAPING it with the weights. I want nice full delts, calves, hams, and quads. Also nice flat and defined abs. But the thing I want most is a very small waist and V-taper! I love that about Serge's body and all those that he has trained....they have beautiful V-tapers and KILLER abs. I'll get there eventually. So far, I have been able to get up to doing 600 sit-ups straight. I'm shooting for 1000. Well, as promised, here's the link to my latest progress video fellas. Women Nubretize too! ;o)

    THANK YOU SERGE!!

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    Originally Posted by Madame Meso View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    I'm back. Just to let you all know, I am also doing Serge's training, but at this phase of my body transformation, I am more focused on shedding fat from my physique. As you all probably know, Serge's method can be used like a cardio program as well, depending on how many sets, reps, rest time, and weight you use. So I am building quality muscle, which is burning my fat away. I can't wait until the fat has melted so much that you can actually see the muscle beneath. I am also building endurance and a strong heart. Doing those supersets for arms really get your heart pumping. And, I get pumps, even the way I do this traing, that lasts for days! Serge's program is THE TRUTH!

    After I have trimmed the fat and I can clearly see the shape of my physique, I'm going to really focus on SHAPING it with the weights. I want nice full delts, calves, hams, and quads. Also nice flat and defined abs. But the thing I want most is a very small waist and V-taper! I love that about Serge's body and all those that he has trained....they have beautiful V-tapers and KILLER abs. I'll get there eventually. So far, I have been able to get up to doing 600 sit-ups straight. I'm shooting for 1000. Well, as promised, here's the link to my latest progress video fellas. Women Nubretize too! ;o)

    THANK YOU SERGE!!

    Peace,
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    Serge when did you utilize 2x a day training? Did alot of guys do this back then? How did you change your routine, hitting the gym 2x a day?
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    Originally Posted by giresun27 View Post
    hi serge, I follow your scheme for 3 week now and I like it.
    but I train every morning on a empty stomach, but I have no problems with that
    I have alot of energy and I also got stronger
    I was wondering would I lose muscle this way?
    Me too I used to train in the morning with an empty stomach. I you eat a lot of proteins, you won't lose any muscle but gain instead.

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    Originally Posted by Ferrigno75 View Post
    Serge my friend I did your workout for chest and It was amazing! You figured it out before anyone else. i have never felt a pump like that before and i kept it for a few hours after my workout!! I see exactly what you mean that you never know til you try it. My appetite was definately there! I ate everything in my house when I got home. I think your workout is the way to go. I believe if you do it right you will build the muscle but if you don't then you won't..... I have some old pictures of you but don't know how to post them on the forum so there under my name Ferrigno75. just click on my name and it will take you to them! In one picture you said you never used a spotter but there is a spotter there?

    In your routine that you give I know that some exercises are an example. For instance you said you never did Bent over rows but there in your workout on here. Could you give us some alternate exercises that you did besides your basics on chest, back, arms, shoulders, legs, abs.
    You never thought that it was someone who want to be in the picture with me?...

    It can be there, that don't means I did them, because some people like to do them. I gave already several time how I can do it in an other way, but you have to go to look for it.

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    Originally Posted by SpencerGrant View Post
    finally, I don't know if this training is for me...
    I have done my second training today, attempted to do chest + back (and even arms but I gave up with this idea)
    started with flat bench.
    I use to bench with 330 lbs (150kg) for 4reps (when I am very weak as these days) to 9 reps (on my best)
    so after a warming, I started with 80kg(176lbs) and done my 12 reps. but I felt like it was too much for the following, so I went lighter with 70kg (154) 1min after I tried to do 12 reps failed about the 11 reps, so I went lighter with 60kg (132lbs) but again that was too much, so I finaly went with 110lbs. to finish my 8 sets of 12 reps
    110lbs is 1/3 of my usual bench traing weight, I felt like people was looking at me as if I was a noob...but the deal is not about what people think of you.
    the trouble is that my triceps was burning and geting tired much fastest than my chests...


    I felt very very tired from yesterday's training witch is another bad point.
    I wanted to to my inclined bench sets but just befor I moved, the last place available was busy...
    I waited too long so I decided to give up with chests, and did the back.

    decided to use 1/3 of the weight I used to with 30 sec between chest
    but again, the little muscles were tired and burning soon before the big muscles. in this case, my biceps were asking me to stop as my back was ready to go on for hours...

    the other bad point was that I didn't take any pleasure.
    I only suffered, and with ridiculous weight, and with this feeiling of being in overtraining.
    I start to guess the reason why eating 600gm of protein a day: training like that each muscle twice a week is probably going to burn a big amount of muscle.


    I think this training is good for heart, good for burning fat, good for preserving from injuries, and you dont need any training partner to manage with super heavy weights
    I think it does its job for anabolism, but I don't know if everybody is made for that. like everybody is not made for heavy duty training.
    it is a training adapted to people who have just 45min to train a muscle as it takes about 10 min per exercice

    my leg training with that was good as I really feel really stiff.
    but is it really adapted to each bodypart?
    on my case I don't know.I'll probably try it with arms
    as I have allways been lifting heavy weights, it is a brutal change of feeling.

    everyone definitly have to try this, as other training methods to see what is best for them.
    I could do 180 kg 15 times and I was training with only 70/80 kg max.
    If your triceps are so tired it's because you take the bar to close, try to take it at the end, very large, so you don't use your tricep this way.

    About your back, I never did chest and back the same day. If I tell to do chest with quad, it has a raison. your tricep was already tired by working yoour chest.

    If you don't like don't do it. But don't forget that : NO PAIN NO GAIN....and if you eat enough proteins you will never lose muscle but gain, and you will never be fat.

    This training is made for every body, in my gym every body was doing it and every body was successful, but you must love bodybuilding to do it. But heavy duty is made for people who don't love bodybuilding, but power lifting.

    So how it's possible that it works for legs?...Oh!...I know it's because you can still lift a lot of weights, so I think that your EGO takes over your MIND.

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    Originally Posted by Madame Meso View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    I'm back. Just to let you all know, I am also doing Serge's training, but at this phase of my body transformation, I am more focused on shedding fat from my physique. As you all probably know, Serge's method can be used like a cardio program as well, depending on how many sets, reps, rest time, and weight you use. So I am building quality muscle, which is burning my fat away. I can't wait until the fat has melted so much that you can actually see the muscle beneath. I am also building endurance and a strong heart. Doing those supersets for arms really get your heart pumping. And, I get pumps, even the way I do this traing, that lasts for days! Serge's program is THE TRUTH!

    After I have trimmed the fat and I can clearly see the shape of my physique, I'm going to really focus on SHAPING it with the weights. I want nice full delts, calves, hams, and quads. Also nice flat and defined abs. But the thing I want most is a very small waist and V-taper! I love that about Serge's body and all those that he has trained....they have beautiful V-tapers and KILLER abs. I'll get there eventually. So far, I have been able to get up to doing 600 sit-ups straight. I'm shooting for 1000. Well, as promised, here's the link to my latest progress video fellas. Women Nubretize too! ;o)

    THANK YOU SERGE!!

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    Thank you Madame Meso.

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    Originally Posted by ss4vegeta1 View Post
    Serge when did you utilize 2x a day training? Did alot of guys do this back then? How did you change your routine, hitting the gym 2x a day?
    I started, when I have my own gym.

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    Originally Posted by Pro Serge Nubret View Post
    If you do my training program exactly as I descrub it you don't need to do cardio, so you save time both way.
    You will get stronger and stronger by doing my program, just be patient.
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    thanks man, sorry for asking another question so soon, but just to be clear, how many grams a day(protein) do you feel would be sufficient for this program? (i'm 5'10 and weigh 80 kgs)

    also, assuming i consume 100g of carbs a day as part of my diet would i be able to burn this off easily with the program or do i need to fine tune my diet further?

    thanks a lot

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    Smile wow!

    this is great to be part of watching the students walk the talk (GO M /MESO) if i was a teacher you would have a star for each week of your remarkable efforts, good to see the hard yards are helping you to smile and even a little dance at the end , you are a cool dancer and i can see your true faith and belief in Mr Nubrets teachings he must be proud to see your smile also... go sister if i can call you that. another thing good job on the screen writing and film data. top marks from me Hercules88....peace...
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    Originally Posted by pandaemon666 View Post
    thanks man, sorry for asking another question so soon, but just to be clear, how many grams a day(protein) do you feel would be sufficient for this program? (i'm 5'10 and weigh 80 kgs)

    also, assuming i consume 100g of carbs a day as part of my diet would i be able to burn this off easily with the program or do i need to fine tune my diet further?

    thanks a lot
    2-3 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight. Serge uses 3 I believe but you can start with 2 or 1.5 to get accustomed to eating so much. Try to have meals that are like 40-50 grams of protein in them with at least 2 hours apart to help your metabolism.

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    Sorry Serge, it is my natural instinct to question things I don't fully understand. But you seem like all you have said is true and you have stuck with it so I trust you and believe you sorry for seeming doubtful I will never question you again! After all you are 6 time world champion. I am not! I trained back yesterday and unlike with heavy weights (around 180-200 lb) I did 115 lb on lat pulldown to front to start off with 6 x 12 and what a difference! I never experience a pump in my lats like that before! I definately had the pump and you say that this is what makes you grow right? As long as I have the pump and protein I will grow! I can see why you trained different leg muscles on different days because today I tried to workout all of my legs and as soon as I got done with quads and started doing hamstrings I started losing the pump in my quads..... So like you said there is a reason for how you have outlined your training routine

    What exercises Do you think or have found to be useless or a complete waste of time with little to no results?

    It would be a dream come true if I could work out with the Serge Nubret! If I were to find some way to get to France, would you let me train with you? I live in Georgia, U.S. so it's a long ways away.... but lets say in the next two years I find a way over there?

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    Observations so far

    I'm not sure this is exactly the way Serge recommends, but this is how I am doing the exercises.

    I pick the weight I remember doing last time and start my first set. When I get to the 12th rep I can tell if I?m tired at all. Here are the choices:

    A. If I?m not the least bit tired, the weight needs to be moved up on the next set.

    B. If I am somewhat tired, I just keep going, stopping if I get to 20 reps. I reduce my rest time for the next set from 60 seconds to 50. Then I see if I can do 12. Adjust the time for each set.

    C. If I can do exactly 12 reps, then I know my first rest time will be a full minute for upper body, 2 minutes for legs. After my first rest period, if I can?t do 12 reps again then I increase my rest time from 60 seconds to 70 for the next set. Adjust the time for each set.

    I've run through Serge's program for 2 weeks. Here are some things I notice:

    1. I actually look forward to working out now, and hate to miss a day.
    2. I've never had a pump in my arms like I do with this program. In fact, I don't usually do over about 9 sets because they are about to blow up.
    3. My weight has stayed constant, but my pants are tighter in the thigh and looser everywhere else.
    4. The veins in my arms are visible even though I'm quite overweight. That has never happened before.
    5. I have poor circulation in my lower body, especially my feet. Since doing this program I notice more heat in my lower body. I figure this is due to dilation throughout my body after the workouts. This last for 6-8 hours.
    6. I actually like working my shoulders now, which I used to hate.
    7. After I do my squats and leg presses I can barely use any weight for my leg extensions.
    8. I can see changes in my chest and shoulders

    I am very excited about this program. I haven't changed my diet at all yet, but know that eating Serge's way will improve my results due to lowering my blood sugar and insulin...leading to more growth hormone. Seeing the results so far is motivating me to eat right.

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    Originally Posted by Pro Serge Nubret View Post
    I could do 180 kg 15 times and I was training with only 70/80 kg max.
    I am relieved! I didn't understand why 50kg was like it was 200kg!

    If your triceps are so tired it's because you take the bar to close, try to take it at the end, very large, so you don't use your tricep this way.
    good idea, I'll try that. I should have think about it.
    About your back, I never did chest and back the same day. If I tell to do chest with quad, it has a raison. your tricep was already tired by working yoour chest.
    I didn't follow exactly you plan. doing the back after chest wasn't the thing I minded.I don't feel like tired triceps prevent from doing back correctly as it is the case with biceps.
    If you don't like don't do it. But don't forget that : NO PAIN NO GAIN....and if you eat enough proteins you will never lose muscle but gain, and you will never be fat.

    This training is made for every body, in my gym every body was doing it and every body was successful, but you must love bodybuilding to do it. But heavy duty is made for people who don't love bodybuilding, but power lifting.
    if I didn't love bodybuilding, I would'nt have been doing that for 10 years.
    heavy duty was dorian yates's training method, 6 times Mr Olympia.
    I do thing he was a bodybulder and not a power lifter
    powerlifters train with short sets only. 6, 4 or 2 reps, something like that.
    they don't look for pump, or muscle volume, or definition.

    when I do a "unique" set per exercice, indeed I do about 6 sets chained one eachother without rest time between them, starting with heavy weight(failure about 6 reps) then 60% of this weight, until failure (about the same number of reps),again decreasing weight the same way, until you can not lift 10kg

    it is not the same way of doing things, but not as far as it sounds like.
    the rest time is near zero, only the weight decrease, and about 6 sets are done.
    pump is here.
    both methods are killing the muscle, in different way, but they are both efficient. and both are bodybuilding

    bodybuilding is about trying to build muscle, to reach a certain kind of shape, I won't teach you that.
    the " no pain no gain" famous from arnold means that muscles have to be hit to there limits
    the "pain" can differe from a method to another.

    if I well understand, your method allows to achieve the limits of the muscles by not leting them the time to recover so they can be trained with lighter weights, failing as if it was heavyer.
    it is a verry good thing.
    good and safe.

    heavy duty is about achieving a limit by a heavy weight and going far beyon this limit by continuing the set until your muscle is really dead, at the point that it can lift nothing.

    two different kind of pain, two different way of stressing the muscle, to make him go to his limits
    two different way of triggering the wanted anabolism.
    they both need to have an iron will.
    they are both bodybuilding, as many other training methods.

    that's why they are both likely to work.



    So how it's possible that it works for legs?...Oh!...I know it's because you can still lift a lot of weights, so I think that your EGO takes over your MIND.
    I didn't use heavy weight, and I wasn't anoyed by the 'little weight'.
    about EGO, we are bodybuider... you guess what I mean?...
    EGO is one of the unavoidable sins in bodybuilding.
    I don't know any bodybuilder who doesn't like to be looked at because of his shape, or to look at himself in the mirror.
    we don't train to increase our chess level, or to becom better in mathematics! lol
    we train to get bigger, in better shape, stronger, and all the stuffs
    strenght is another part of bodybuilding. not the most important, but one of the stuff that, I think, most of bodybuilders are also looking for.
    so the common "how much you bench" as dumb as it sounds like is a bit legitimate in this sport.


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    serge, i was doing your program described on your dvd. for example back was 36 sets with 30 seconds rest between sets. ive found that because im trying to lose weight and not eating a lot my body cant handle all that right now so i dropped it down to only 3 sets pre exercise like you suggest for beginners.

    i felt this was a much better workout for me. however it only took me 20 minutes to do my back workout since it was only 18 sets tottal.

    i was wondering since im trying to lose fat should i rest a full minute which would make my workout longer, or is 30 seconds best even tho the workout is shorter?

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    thanks man, sorry for asking another question so soon, but just to be clear, how many grams a day(protein) do you feel would be sufficient for this program? (i'm 5'10 and weigh 80 kgs)

    also, assuming i consume 100g of carbs a day as part of my diet would i be able to burn this off easily with the program or do i need to fine tune my diet further?

    thanks a lot
    You can eat as much proteins you want, if never you have too much the rest will serve to give you energy.
    With my program this 100g of carbs will be burn very fast it's only 400 calories.

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    Sorry Serge, it is my natural instinct to question things I don't fully understand. But you seem like all you have said is true and you have stuck with it so I trust you and believe you sorry for seeming doubtful I will never question you again! After all you are 6 time world champion. I am not! I trained back yesterday and unlike with heavy weights (around 180-200 lb) I did 115 lb on lat pulldown to front to start off with 6 x 12 and what a difference! I never experience a pump in my lats like that before! I definately had the pump and you say that this is what makes you grow right? As long as I have the pump and protein I will grow! I can see why you trained different leg muscles on different days because today I tried to workout all of my legs and as soon as I got done with quads and started doing hamstrings I started losing the pump in my quads..... So like you said there is a reason for how you have outlined your training routine

    What exercises Do you think or have found to be useless or a complete waste of time with little to no results?

    It would be a dream come true if I could work out with the Serge Nubret! If I were to find some way to get to France, would you let me train with you? I live in Georgia, U.S. so it's a long ways away.... but lets say in the next two years I find a way over there?
    I think that I will be soon living in the State again, maybe in Miami.

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    Originally Posted by Audacity17 View Post
    I'm not sure this is exactly the way Serge recommends, but this is how I am doing the exercises.

    I pick the weight I remember doing last time and start my first set. When I get to the 12th rep I can tell if I?m tired at all. Here are the choices:

    A. If I?m not the least bit tired, the weight needs to be moved up on the next set.

    B. If I am somewhat tired, I just keep going, stopping if I get to 20 reps. I reduce my rest time for the next set from 60 seconds to 50. Then I see if I can do 12. Adjust the time for each set.

    C. If I can do exactly 12 reps, then I know my first rest time will be a full minute for upper body, 2 minutes for legs. After my first rest period, if I can?t do 12 reps again then I increase my rest time from 60 seconds to 70 for the next set. Adjust the time for each set.

    I've run through Serge's program for 2 weeks. Here are some things I notice:

    1. I actually look forward to working out now, and hate to miss a day.
    2. I've never had a pump in my arms like I do with this program. In fact, I don't usually do over about 9 sets because they are about to blow up.
    3. My weight has stayed constant, but my pants are tighter in the thigh and looser everywhere else.
    4. The veins in my arms are visible even though I'm quite overweight. That has never happened before.
    5. I have poor circulation in my lower body, especially my feet. Since doing this program I notice more heat in my lower body. I figure this is due to dilation throughout my body after the workouts. This last for 6-8 hours.
    6. I actually like working my shoulders now, which I used to hate.
    7. After I do my squats and leg presses I can barely use any weight for my leg extensions.
    8. I can see changes in my chest and shoulders

    I am very excited about this program. I haven't changed my diet at all yet, but know that eating Serge's way will improve my results due to lowering my blood sugar and insulin...leading to more growth hormone. Seeing the results so far is motivating me to eat right.

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    Originally Posted by SpencerGrant View Post
    I am relieved! I didn't understand why 50kg was like it was 200kg!

    good idea, I'll try that. I should have think about it.

    I didn't follow exactly you plan. doing the back after chest wasn't the thing I minded.I don't feel like tired triceps prevent from doing back correctly as it is the case with biceps.

    if I didn't love bodybuilding, I would'nt have been doing that for 10 years.
    heavy duty was dorian yates's training method, 6 times Mr Olympia.
    I do thing he was a bodybulder and not a power lifter
    powerlifters train with short sets only. 6, 4 or 2 reps, something like that.
    they don't look for pump, or muscle volume, or definition.

    when I do a "unique" set per exercice, indeed I do about 6 sets chained one eachother without rest time between them, starting with heavy weight(failure about 6 reps) then 60% of this weight, until failure (about the same number of reps),again decreasing weight the same way, until you can not lift 10kg

    it is not the same way of doing things, but not as far as it sounds like.
    the rest time is near zero, only the weight decrease, and about 6 sets are done.
    pump is here.
    both methods are killing the muscle, in different way, but they are both efficient. and both are bodybuilding

    bodybuilding is about trying to build muscle, to reach a certain kind of shape, I won't teach you that.
    the " no pain no gain" famous from arnold means that muscles have to be hit to there limits
    the "pain" can differe from a method to another.

    if I well understand, your method allows to achieve the limits of the muscles by not leting them the time to recover so they can be trained with lighter weights, failing as if it was heavyer.
    it is a verry good thing.
    good and safe.

    heavy duty is about achieving a limit by a heavy weight and going far beyon this limit by continuing the set until your muscle is really dead, at the point that it can lift nothing.

    two different kind of pain, two different way of stressing the muscle, to make him go to his limits
    two different way of triggering the wanted anabolism.
    they both need to have an iron will.
    they are both bodybuilding, as many other training methods.

    that's why they are both likely to work.




    I didn't use heavy weight, and I wasn't anoyed by the 'little weight'.
    about EGO, we are bodybuider... you guess what I mean?...
    EGO is one of the unavoidable sins in bodybuilding.
    I don't know any bodybuilder who doesn't like to be looked at because of his shape, or to look at himself in the mirror.
    we don't train to increase our chess level, or to becom better in mathematics! lol
    we train to get bigger, in better shape, stronger, and all the stuffs
    strenght is another part of bodybuilding. not the most important, but one of the stuff that, I think, most of bodybuilders are also looking for.
    so the common "how much you bench" as dumb as it sounds like is a bit legitimate in this sport.
    Still a big difference between both method. The longivity and injuries!....
    When i talk about EGO I was thinking of the weight that we are lifting, and not about how we look. Sometime in the gym some small guy loves to scream when they live weights jut to be remarked.

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    Just wanted to say I back on your program Serge. I found peace inside my heart and soul and ready to give it a new try.
    Good for you.

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    again serge you are a beast. i have always wondered is it really nessesary to eat 5 to 6 times a day because i noticed while doing some research steve reeves only ate 3 times a day or is this just a fallacy.
    and also is there a specific reson why many people are doing splits instead of 3x a week or do they both give equal results?

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    serge, i was doing your program described on your dvd. for example back was 36 sets with 30 seconds rest between sets. ive found that because im trying to lose weight and not eating a lot my body cant handle all that right now so i dropped it down to only 3 sets pre exercise like you suggest for beginners.

    i felt this was a much better workout for me. however it only took me 20 minutes to do my back workout since it was only 18 sets tottal.

    i was wondering since im trying to lose fat should i rest a full minute which would make my workout longer, or is 30 seconds best even tho the workout is shorter?
    If you can rest only 30 secondes it will better for you to burn your fat.

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    WOW! so you would be next door then. I would definately have to come meet you if it is okay with you of course.

    In my picture of you bench pressing your arms are spread far apart, almost touching the weights? Did you do this to widen the chest or is it just something you always did?

    I read in some messages back people asked you if you did deadlift and some posts you said no but then I came across a post of you where you said that you did deadlift but you did it your way. Could you explain exactly how you did it?

    Not trying to be a pain but you did not answer my question of in your bodybuilding experiences what exercise(s) have you found to be useless or with little to no result?

    To keep your phisique looing like it has not been touched in 50 years You are truely the greatest of all time!!!

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    If you can rest only 30 secondes it will better for you to burn your fat.

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    Hey Serge,

    Sometimes when I'm doing the sets I feel like going again after 30 seconds rest. Obviously I should probably just listen to my subconSCIENCE, right? Also, on your advanced training are all your rest times 30 seconds?
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    Still a big difference between both method. The longivity and injuries!....
    When i talk about EGO I was thinking of the weight that we are lifting, and not about how we look. Sometime in the gym some small guy loves to scream when they live weights jut to be remarked.

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    oui, les gars qui font bcp de bruit pour rien en sale ca m'enerve pas mal aussi
    je me souviens d'un passage dans pumping iron ou arnold dit "what?" parceque quelqu'un faisait trop de bruit en faisant sa congestion.
    mais je me souviens plus qui, je crois que c'etait lou. j'ai trouv? ca ass? marrant

    pour la longevit?, je te l'accorde.
    mais il faut vraiment atteindre un niveau de force incroyable pour vraiment augmenter les risques de rupture de tendons.
    avec ma strucure osseuse, je risque pas de concourir a l'homme le plus fort de france.
    d'un autre cot? lee priest s'est cass? le tendon qui relie le biceps a l'epaule.

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    Originally Posted by Ferrigno75 View Post
    WOW! so you would be next door then. I would definately have to come meet you if it is okay with you of course.

    In my picture of you bench pressing your arms are spread far apart, almost touching the weights? Did you do this to widen the chest or is it just something you always did?



    !
    I think it is to prevent triceps to be too much used as he suggested me to do to prevent me for having triceps tired sooner than chests while flat benching.

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    Serge, I recently picked up a copy of Arnold's ''New Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding.''

    Just thought I'd say he is full of praise for you, and actually uses your lying down side lateral raise in the book.
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    I think that I will be soon living in the State again, maybe in Miami.

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    I hope you are not going too soon, I plan on coming back to France again this year..
    By the way Serge, I had my practical exam this month but my theory exam is not until the beginning of April, so I will be able to start translating "I am.. Me and God" then (in April) instead of now like I thought before..
    I also have an idea for a project I am sure you will be interested in.. I will talk to you about it when you come to England in April.

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