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    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    heavy training for size, with assistance work for RE rather than DE



    Funny that.. a raw 1750+ (deducting a bit from the gym maxes) @ 242 would put me pretty high on the raw comps I've seen, as 99.9995% of actual PLers aren't Robert Wilkerson
    1800+ raw is huge, but what i think he is saying is many people dont have the genetics to be BBers, nor do they have the determination to hit the big weights...so they call themselves powerbuilders to give them some sense of place in the fitness society. I do heavy training for strength and size, RE work for size, DE work for speed and i consider myself a Powerlifter, but i still want to get bigger because it helps me in my PLing goals.
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    yeah I can see that. In that respect it's like when Dinosaur Training came out and all these ****ing nothings suddenly became world class internet experts on 'real strength'... fat little men bragging about shouldering sandbags to take to the focus off their Big Three lifts being terrible.

    I do think 'powerbuilding' is a great idea for the average trainee though, they'll never look like a BBer no matter what they do so might as well get some respectable strength to show for all that gym time.
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    Originally Posted by Bodysteele View Post

    I have no interest in competing in the sport of PLing...especially the way it is now.
    Have you competed before?

    What is your problem with powerlifting "the way it is now"?
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    Originally Posted by db2000 View Post
    Have you competed before?

    What is your problem with powerlifting "the way it is now"?
    Oh why did you ask?
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    Originally Posted by db2000 View Post
    Have you competed before?

    What is your problem with powerlifting "the way it is now"?
    90 lb jumps...NEXT WEEK!
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    Originally Posted by db2000 View Post
    Have you competed before?

    What is your problem with powerlifting "the way it is now"?
    Because it's not all NATURAL and 100% RAW

    Originally Posted by Arlecchino View Post
    Oh why did you ask?
    Hehe...

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    I thought it was just a Powerlifter routine with a Bodybuilder diet

    There are some descriptions in here
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    Originally Posted by db2000 View Post
    Have you competed before?

    What is your problem with powerlifting "the way it is now"?
    the problem is that everyone is a juiced up, geared up, quarter squatting, belly touching, out of shape fat ass, cheater face
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    Originally Posted by f00t View Post
    the problem is that everyone is a juiced up, geared up, quarter squatting, belly touching, out of shape fat ass, cheater face
    I may be a lot of things, but I'm not a cheater face...
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    doing a power/hypertrophy workout split (layne norton style) is EXACTLY what powerbuilding is
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    my routine is basicly a "powerbuilding" routine

    Me days for heavy heavy stuff and RE days for lighter stuff usually in the rep range of 5-8
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    Originally Posted by Code_B View Post
    I think he is an example of a strongman...
    Fail. Its people who bodybuild using powerlifting techniques to suppliment there training.

    Esentially.......there bodybuilders...
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    If it's someone who does the powerlifts and eats like a bodybuilder, then...

    ...it's any powerlifter who isn't a superheavyweight and needs to be lean to make weight and be competitive, or...

    ...it's just a normal bodybuilder who mostly does compound exercises, which I suspect is quite a few of them, or...

    ...it's this weeks new, cool label to describe what people have been doing all along.

    You decide.
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    Originally Posted by Arlecchino View Post
    Oh why did you ask?
    Because Im sick of people whinging about "the state of powerlifting today" who have never competed. Its just a lazy excuse.
    Go compete.

    Go lift raw and drug free in a multiply drugged out fed...who cares.

    You should be competing against yourself even if you do squat 180kgs at 130kg body weight
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    Originally Posted by f00t View Post
    powerbuilding is on the same gayness plane as crossfit
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    IMO...its those people who fail to be bodybuilders or powerlifters so they want to be called powerbuilders. They dont have the dicipline to become bodybuilders and they dont have what it takes strength wise to powerlift.
    I compete in powerlifting, and am doing a figure competiton in October. I lift in both styles, just vary the reps depending on the day.

    I started lifting heavy this past September, so I'd say my lifts are pretty decent. And for not being in the dieting phase yet, I consider myself pretty lean....(default pic is from 05/14/08).
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    Originally Posted by devo09 View Post
    doing a power/hypertrophy workout split (layne norton style) is EXACTLY what powerbuilding is
    I agree with that
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    strong bump
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    I always thought it was a reference to the older bodybuilders like Arnold who basically trained using somewhat of a powerlifter mentality. Basically using heavy benches, squats, deadlifts, push presses, Oly lifts, and then maybe adding one or two isolation excercises on the side.
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    my meaning of the word has always been more of the "hobbyist" lifter who doesn't compete in either but has goals that pertain to either sport. For me i want to be lean and built overall but i also wanna move big weight as it just feels "right" (haha always awesome getting a pr) but i will not compromise the bodybuilding side or the powerlifting side for the other which means i will not be as "perfect" in either bodybuilding or powerlifting as i could be.

    Edit: in short its just pointing you in a general direction of someones goals.
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    I always thought Powerbuilding was bodybuilding but with the agressive poundage mentality that powerlifting encourages. Doggcrapp is what I think of when it comes to Powerbuilding. In fact the maker of Doggcrapp said that he is a powerbuilder.

    So basically IMO Powerbuilding = BBing by getting as strong as possible on mainly compound lifts.

    Could be wrong, though.
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