Ketogenic Cardio

[Basil08]

So ah...what happened to gfundaro?

Seriously, get back on here and apologize. Your obviously just lurking waiting for it to die down and hopefully everyone will forget and your slate will be wiped clean. That was incredibly disrespectful. The least you could do is show some respect and retain an once of the once obtained dignity you had by apologizing.

[1bebigger]

So ah...what happened to gfundaro?

Seriously, get back on here and apologize. Your obviously just lurking waiting for it to die down and hopefully everyone will forget and your slate will be wiped clean. That was incredibly disrespectful. The least you could do is show some respect and retain an once of the once obtained dignity you had by apologizing.

ha- females taking responsibilty for there actions... man its 2008. they dont do that no more . lulz

[C. Griswald]

epic thrad

5 star, would fap again

[johnnyironboard]

Just got back from doing 45 minutes at 3 mph on the treadmill. Pulse got up to 70. Bob's quote is correct:

^^One reason that many guys (and girls) are afraid to try this method is that they're afraid it won't work, or because it doesn't "feel" like they're doing anything.^^

It sure felt like I was wasting my time but I'll try and stick it out.

[Vadim Beliaev]

Well i somehow got to my contest shape by doing only walking as cardio
So rest assured it works
And no i didnt use DNP or T3

This is also what i recommended to my gf as cardio, and this is what she did to get in shape for her shows
I think results speak for themselves

[MattyH7688]

Well i somehow got to my contest shape by doing only walking as cardio
So rest assured it works
And no i didnt use DNP or T3

This is also what i recommended to my gf as cardio, and this is what she did to get in shape for her shows
I think results speak for themselves

thats what i used too

[Minotaur]

I am the only Super-Hero here!!!

*No Lisp*

Then Skippy's gotta be your sidekick. The two of you...

Omg, I'm getting the vapors! Someone catch me.

[Jamps]

Well i somehow got to my contest shape by doing only walking as cardio
So rest assured it works
And no i didnt use DNP or T3

This is also what i recommended to my gf as cardio, and this is what she did to get in shape for her shows
I think results speak for themselves

this is what i plan on doing, mainly since i injured my knee so HIIT is a No Go....

[L1FTHVY]

i love just burnin that fat nice and slow. especially after a good pump i definetly dont feel like working hard on the stupid treadmill or bike.

hahah

[|ceman]

So ah...what happened to gfundaro?

Seriously, get back on here and apologize. Your obviously just lurking waiting for it to die down and hopefully everyone will forget and your slate will be wiped clean. That was incredibly disrespectful. The least you could do is show some respect and retain an once of the once obtained dignity you had by apologizing.

I guess she didn't expect the author of the article she trashed to come into this thread and not only post his response, but hand out a good old fashioned humbling in the process.

The honorable thing to do would be to at the least post an apology for denigrating Bob's experience and for belittling his efforts and contributions to the sport.


This statement alone shows an incredible lack of knowledge of the sport and distaste for what it takes to build a championship physique:

being an IFBB pro ... just means you got your hands on a lot of steroids and had the money to spend to get to the top.

[GBLynden]

I guess she didn't expect the author of the article she trashed to come into this thread and not only post his response, but hand out a good old fashioned humbling in the process.

The honorable thing to do would be to at the least post an apology for denigrating Bob's experience and for belittling his efforts and contributions to the sport.


This statement alone shows an incredible lack of knowledge of the sport and distaste for what it takes to build a championship physique:

Agreed, I never thought something like that would come out of her fingers.

[TheSheepdog]

Well i somehow got to my contest shape by doing only walking as cardio
So rest assured it works
And no i didnt use DNP or T3

This is also what i recommended to my gf as cardio, and this is what she did to get in shape for her shows
I think results speak for themselves

i did only walking for my second show and it didnt workout for me, my legs slimmed down too much and i couldnt figure out why.My last show i did sprints and it worked out better for me,... I guest we all differ

[BlueFenix13S]

Well i somehow got to my contest shape by doing only walking as cardio
So rest assured it works
And no i didnt use DNP or T3

This is also what i recommended to my gf as cardio, and this is what she did to get in shape for her shows
I think results speak for themselves

thats what i used too

Come on guys, nobody is going to believe what you say. I mean, it's not like your bodybuilders or anything

[LiL USMC BBer]

I guess while I'm active duty military my dreams of competing might just be shattered.


when I run, I'm still able to maintain a conversation with the person next to me. So my heart rate doesn't go all that high.

When I walk my heart rate gets up into the 120's-140. Elliptical it gets up to the 150's.. when I run its between 130-160. So its all about the same, running just takes a bit more effort that's all.

[TripTastic]

lol probably my favorite thread on the site.

[Enso]

omg u should have kept the photochop comment out. I totally thought u were the one on the left.

No way Bob's forearms are that small. That's an awesome photoshop though lol...

[~Serpent~]

Well i somehow got to my contest shape by doing only walking as cardio
So rest assured it works
And no i didnt use DNP or T3

This is also what i recommended to my gf as cardio, and this is what she did to get in shape for her shows
I think results speak for themselves

Did you do it in the morning on an empty stomach?

[Cerrav]

Was interested in the topic...but the example of mob mentality was entertaining as well.

Right. *eats cheeto*

[Dr.Adam]

this thread cannot die just yet, besides I want to hear what others think. It seems like we have a difference of opinion as far as walking vs running for cardio? Armymuscle seems to find sprinting better. Do you think this is going to very based on people's resting heart rate?

[Vadim Beliaev]

Did you do it in the morning on an empty stomach?

I didnt

My gf did but was always sure to take BCAA beforehand
She was stubborn about it, because I still think its better to have a light meal before doing it, to avoid any possible catabolism

[Vadim Beliaev]

i did only walking for my second show and it didnt workout for me, my legs slimmed down too much and i couldnt figure out why.My last show i did sprints and it worked out better for me,... I guest we all differ

and thats really strange
You lost mass from walking and not from sprinting?
Was your diet the same for both occassions?

[MarkVI]

and thats really strange
You lost mass from walking and not from sprinting?
Was your diet the same for both occassions?

That is strange....I know when I run often that my back and arms start melting. But if I just walk, I lose almost all fat and little muscle.

[¡STFU!ˇNˆLIFT!]

Was no need to do her like that fellas seriously . I lol'd yea - if the truth hurts say ouch and all but most that was ouchie haha man wow ..

BUT her being a student and obviously a hard working one who believes in herself and her studies you guys didn't HAVE TO play cutthroat so quickly .

if she is acting so young and egotisitical and you are so grown and matured wtf is your fkin problem just attacking her for being a snobby glasses off her nose female who is TRYING to help .. best she knows how ..


yes she was disrepectful just throwing out comments and causing offense but wow I know she feels like crap and for no apparent reason really ..

She doesn't know any of you personally it was not targeted personally at any one I don't believe ...

very general and BLEEK as all hell yes and people should always think before they speak but jeesh

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. make love not war lol

[johnnyironboard]

Was no need to do her like that fellas seriously . I lol'd yea - if the truth hurts say ouch and all but most that was ouchie haha man wow ..

BUT her being a student and obviously a hard working one who believes in herself and her studies you guys didn't HAVE TO play cutthroat so quickly .

if she is acting so young and egotisitical and you are so grown and matured wtf is your fkin problem just attacking her for being a snobby glasses off her nose female who is TRYING to help .. best she knows how ..


yes she was disrepectful just throwing out comments and causing offense but wow I know she feels like crap and for no apparent reason really ..

She doesn't know any of you personally it was not targeted personally at any one I don't believe ...

very general and BLEEK as all hell yes and people should always think before they speak but jeesh

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. make love not war lol

This thread has over an order of magnitude more views than any other thread in the forum- whoever said mob mentality was right- these folks didn't just stumble into this thread.

[M4A1 Widowmaker]

and thats really strange
You lost mass from walking and not from sprinting?
Was your diet the same for both occassions?

Well correct me if I'm wrong but walking is steady-state whereas sprinting is more HIIT, which is supposed to be muscle-sparing, yes?

I have been walking and my cut hasn't been going as well as planned so I was thinking of throwing in some 50-yard sprints.


Didn't make it in for epicness but I am getting some questions answered hopefully.

[Vadim Beliaev]

Thats what the whole thread was about
If HIIT is so muscle sparing, why do pro bbers avoid it like the plague?

[LiL USMC BBer]

Thats what the whole thread was about
If HIIT is so muscle sparing, why do pro bbers avoid it like the plague?

I'm not putting you down in anyway.. so don't take my post as a disrespect post. That goes for all of you! lol..



Do you not feel that your body will adapt? That if your running 2-3 miles and your heart rate doesn't really come up all that much that you will be able to burn fat and not carbohydrates?

Or when you go on a keto style TKD/CKD type diet your body will be able to use FFA's/EFA's as energy instead of carbs becuase it has adapted to the new energy source?

As long as they are conditioned, running doesn't beat you into the ground as much as it would for someone who isn't used to that type of training. I feel that as long as your able to maintain a conversation with your "jogging partner" you should be alright...

I know a guy that is big as **** and pretty lean. He runs 3 miles at a 17 minute pace. His heart rate doesn't come up all that much.


Now mind you. I'm highly doubting, someone that "runs or jogs" will be able to be as big as you and as lean as you.

But for soemoen like me that jogs 2-4 miles as cardio... can probably maintain 170LB's and 6-7% BF at my height, should be ok?

[RU4A69]

HIIT, which is supposed to be muscle-sparing, yes?
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Sure as hell not "muscle-sparing" IME. Good luck with it though.

[BlueFenix13S]

Thats what the whole thread was about
If HIIT is so muscle sparing, why do pro bbers avoid it like the plague?

As long as they are conditioned, running doesn't beat you into the ground as much as it would for someone who isn't used to that type of training. I feel that as long as your able to maintain a conversation with your "jogging partner" you should be alright...

Hey Vadim (or Matty), I'm kinda wondering the same thing as Respawn here. When I run, my heart rate doesn't get much above 140 just because I'm conditioned to run that much, so would that be "low intensity" as defined by heart rate? If thats the case, then one COULD justify running on keto/low carb without muscle loss. Sprinting I would think not since that is specific short bursts, but running distance, while more glycogen depleting than weight training, isn't as depleting as sprinting.

Thanks man!

[MarkVI]

HIIT is anti muscle for me....It feels like it has something to do with the jarring effects of pounding the pavement....It may just all be an energy pathway issue or a heart rate issue...but it certainly feels like I lose muscle due to the physical jaring effects of the running.