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    Workout every other day = 3.5 times a week.
    Sorry for being a pedantic ass, but I think it's worth mentioning that while I agree with the spirit of what you're saying, working out 7x every 2 weeks doesn't equal working out 3.5x every week. Mathematically it's equivalent, but not pragmatically... there's no such thing as half a workout. It's 3 days one week, 4 days the other.
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    Originally Posted by bango skank View Post
    Sorry for being a pedantic ass, but I think it's worth mentioning that while I agree with the spirit of what you're saying, working out 7x every 2 weeks doesn't equal working out 3.5x every week. Mathematically it's equivalent, but not pragmatically... there's no such thing as half a workout. It's 3 days one week, 4 days the other.
    But when pragmatically looking at the equivalence, every other day would be more frequent than 3 times per week and less frequent than 4 times per week.

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    Originally Posted by Omm View Post
    That doesn't make sense. Then you are catering your workout to the week, rather then to your rest.
    A week is any seven days. Why cut a rest day just to fit some arbitrary schedule?
    Workout every other day = 3.5 times a week.
    No, 3.5 times a week doesn't make sense. You can not use the term 3.5 times/week because it doesn't exist. There is no such thing as half day when you're doing a workout every other day. You can say 7 times every 14 days but NOT 3.5/week. You cannot divide 7 by 2 in this situation. It doesn't work. You can use any 7 days you want and my logic stands. It doesn't have to be Sunday-Saturday.

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    Seems to me that you're all neglecting the fact that TheJosh has a time-machine.

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    Originally Posted by Orlando1234977 View Post
    But when pragmatically looking at the equivalence, every other day would be more frequent than 3 times per week and less frequent than 4 times per week.
    You don't get it. 7 times every 14 days would be 4 times during the first 7 days and 3 times during the next 7-day period, 3 days for the one after that and 4 during the next, this continues to repeat.
    1 3 5 7--->4 days
    9 11 13 ---> 3 days
    15 17 19. 21 --->4 days
    23, 25, 27 --->3 days
    29, 31, 33, 35 ---> 4 days.

    Hope that made it a little easier for those of you struggling to grasp this. So, if you want to use any 7 day, it will be both 4 times and 3 times per week.
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    Originally Posted by SmoovJ View Post
    No, 3.5 times a week doesn't make sense. You can not use the term 3.5 times/week because it doesn't exist. There is no such thing as half day when you're doing a workout every other day. You can say 7 times every 14 days but NOT 3.5/week. You cannot divide 7 by 2 in this situation. It doesn't work. You can use any 7 days you want and my logic stands. It doesn't have to be Sunday-Saturday.
    Simply talking equilivancy here. The guys (and myself) are simply saying working out 7 times in 14 days has the equivilance of 3.5 frequency. (Not actually prescribing to DO 3.5 workouts).
    Actuarial tables are all based on the same types of thing, rates might be based on a average family of 2.5 kids, that doesn't mean anyone HAS 2.5 kids, but the equivilancy states it's more than 2, less than 3.

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    Originally Posted by SmoovJ View Post
    You don't get it. 7 times every 14 days would be 4 times during the first 7 days and 3 times during the second and 3 days over the next 7 and 4 during the next, this continues to repeat.
    1 3 5 7--->4 days
    9 11 13 ---> 3 days
    15 17 19. 21 --->4 days
    23, 25, 27 --->3 days
    29, 31, 33, 35 ---> 4 days.

    Hope that made it a little easier for those of you struggling to grasp this.
    Yes, that has an average weekly frequency of 3.5.

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    The josh:

    Can we agree that 4 weeks is 28 days? 7x4=28 right?

    If you work out every other day that's 14 times in 4 weeks. 28/2=14 right?

    If as you say you work out every other day and that's 4 times per week would you not be working out 16 times? 4x4=16 right?

    How can both be true? You used a 31 day month as an example in an earlier post. That's not 4 weeks. That's a calendar month.

    4 weeks every other day is 14 workouts which is 7 every two weeks which is 3.5 per week (or for people who don't understand math 3 one week and 4 the next and so forth.....)

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    Originally Posted by Orlando1234977 View Post
    Yes, that has an average weekly frequency of 3.5.
    You're an idiot . I know the average is 3.5 but it is not pragmatic. If you were to put together a workout for people to use, would you list that they will work out 3.5 times a week?

    Originally Posted by RRMike View Post
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    4 weeks every other day is 14 workouts which is 7 every two weeks which is 3.5 per week (or for people who don't understand math 3 one week and 4 the next and so forth.....)
    We know the average is 3.5 but you cannot use .5 day in this situation.
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    So... In the last 2 weeks I've worked out every other day an so far have worked out 10 times.

    But.... I think what the OP is asking is if i is ok to do this.

    Mon: Arms, Back, chest, shoulders, legs
    Tues: Off
    Wed: Arms, Back, chest, shoulders, legs
    Thurs: Off
    Fri: Mon: Arms, Back, chest, shoulders, legs
    Sat: Mon: Arms, Back, chest, shoulders, legs
    Sun1: Off
    Sun2: Off

    I'd suggest the other splits where you work out 1-2 muscle groups a day and then a rest day, then work 1-2 DIFFERENT muscle groups, then rinse repeat with different muscle groups
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    Originally Posted by SmoovJ View Post
    You're an idiot . I know the average is 3.5 but it is not pragmatic. If you were to put together a workout for people to use, would you list that they will work out 3.5 times a week?



    We know the average is 3.5 but you cannot use .5 day in this situation.
    LOL no but if you were to prescribe every other day.. Also, in the context (page 1), he said wouldn't 4 or five times per week be overtraining? The body will recognize the frequency as 3.5 times per week. This isn't a debate. The frequency is 3.5 per week. In the real world, numbers are used to justify quantity. Have trouble understanding things when numbers are involved?
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    So you'd let someone tell you 2 + 2 = 5? I'm sure you're quite helpful on these boards..

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    I just hope Josh comes back to give some more words of wisdom.

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    Originally Posted by SmoovJ View Post
    Do a lot of harm to my body because there is no rest day between Sat and Sun? You have a lot to LEARN about working out, buddy.

    Workouts are usually created to fit a 1 week period, not a 14, 28, ....day period.
    Question.
    You've never heard of a trainee on a program that has them do every other day, or heck, 2 on, 1 off, 3 on, 1 off? I assure you MANY don't base a workout routine on a silly 7 day workout week.

    And again, the BASIS of this thread was IF YOU TRAIN EVERY OTHER DAY, how many times is that in 2 damn weeks?!?!?!?!?!??!

    Fuk, people make this harder than need be. Every other thread, I'm giving my 11 yrs of experience on training and nutrition, and here I'm wasting my time with you clowns on days in a damn week!

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    Originally Posted by SmoovJ View Post
    No, 3.5 times a week doesn't make sense. You can not use the term 3.5 times/week because it doesn't exist. There is no such thing as half day when you're doing a workout every other day. You can say 7 times every 14 days but NOT 3.5/week. You cannot divide 7 by 2 in this situation. It doesn't work. You can use any 7 days you want and my logic stands. It doesn't have to be Sunday-Saturday.
    I disagree. A half day would be when you lift, a full day would be when I lift.

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    Originally Posted by SmoovJ View Post
    You don't get it. 7 times every 14 days would be 4 times during the first 7 days and 3 times during the next 7-day period, 3 days for the one after that and 4 during the next, this continues to repeat.
    1 3 5 7--->4 days
    9 11 13 ---> 3 days
    15 17 19. 21 --->4 days
    23, 25, 27 --->3 days
    29, 31, 33, 35 ---> 4 days.

    Hope that made it a little easier for those of you struggling to grasp this. So, if you want to use any 7 day, it will be both 4 times and 3 times per week.
    Semantics bud. He is right. You are right. Josh is a effing moron.

    You train 4 days the first week, 3 the next, yes I went over that 12 hours ago and 2 pages ago....we got that. It equats to 3.5x a week, or 1.75x in 3.5 days, etc, etc. We're talking math and formulas here, not what the body can or cannot do. How can some of you be so dense? I mean I know I'm college educated, a fantastic writer, generally far smarter than those around me, but christ! we're talking about like 2+2=4 **** here. Just stop arguing when you're all so wrong it pains us smart people.

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    Originally Posted by Orlando1234977 View Post
    LOL no but if you were to prescribe every other day.. Also, in the context (page 1), he said wouldn't 4 or five times per week be overtraining? The body will recognize the frequency as 3.5 times per week. This isn't a debate. The frequency is 3.5 per week. In the real world, numbers are used to justify quantity. Have trouble understanding things when numbers are involved?
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    Originally Posted by DrmChld View Post
    So... In the last 2 weeks I've worked out every other day an so far have worked out 10 times.
    No you haven't.

    Let us say (for comparisons sake, not reality DUH!)

    1) There are 52 weeks in a year
    2) There are 12 months in a year
    3) There are 4 weeks in a month
    4) There are 7 days in a week

    Ok, you with me?

    If you train 3.5x a week x 52 weeks a year, what does that equal? 182

    Ok, so that means on avg, every month we train 15.1677777

    Is that more than the 14 I have been suggesting? Yes, why yes it is, JUSTIN MUST BE WRONG!! Errrm, no there sport, you see all us smartguyz are saying you train 7 times in a TWO WEEK TIMEFRAME!

    ^But to prove the above sentence, I know you need more difficult explaining, so here goes sport.

    1) How man days are in a week? I'd like to say 7
    2) How many days in 4 weeks? I'd say 28
    3) How many days in a month? WAIT THIS IS THE CHANGE FACTOR!!!!! It is here where the dumbasses can't figure it out!!!!! We found out their brain shortcomings!!!

    ^ So you see, when 100% of the smart population speaks of a "week," they mean 7 motherfuking days! Ok? Got it?

    Now tell me, mathematically, how you trained 10 times, at every other day, in 2 weeks, 14 days?

    I will patiently await your keyboard vomit.

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    Originally Posted by SmoovJ View Post
    You were responding to my post and you used "You" and "Your" in your response. I have all the rights to assume you were referring to me. Fuccking moron. Yeah, I can't read. Maybe you should learn how to write properly so people will know who you're referring to next time.
    "one; anyone; people in general"
    "used of the person or persons being addressed"
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/you

    The word "you" can be used to address "anyone" that has spoken (posted on this topic). Stop trolling.

    The point still stands, they're trying to give advice to the poster of this thread. You (yes YOU this time) decide to take offence at words on the screen (oh no) and cause some form of debate.

    The fact is, if he is doing a full body workout, Saturday and Sunday, it would cause some harm for him. Since you (yes you this time) didn't post exactly what to do during that 4 day routine people would assume it was directed at the OPs question.

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    ^ I want an award for this **** btw.

    Have the: "You win @ the internet" award I just invented. :P

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    But when pragmatically looking at the equivalence, every other day would be more frequent than 3 times per week and less frequent than 4 times per week.
    instead of saying working out every other day, why don't we just say working out .5x everyday since it averages out and we're such a bunch of frickin mathematicians in here.

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    Originally Posted by Justin-27 View Post
    Semantics bud. He is right. You are right. Josh is a effing moron.

    You train 4 days the first week, 3 the next, yes I went over that 12 hours ago and 2 pages ago....we got that. It equats to 3.5x a week, or 1.75x in 3.5 days, etc, etc. We're talking math and formulas here, not what the body can or cannot do. How can some of you be so dense? I mean I know I'm college educated, a fantastic writer, generally far smarter than those around me, but christ! we're talking about like 2+2=4 **** here. Just stop arguing when you're all so wrong it pains us smart people.
    Moron, get off your high horse. You're nothing to me. I am college educated too and I make a lot of money for a 23 yr old. I will not try to convince idiots like you on an Internet message board. All I'm saying is that you can't pragmatically use 3.5 in as a workout frequency.
    Round to the closest integer, basic math.

    It's like saying 3.5 men fuuck you in the butt every week when in reality you can't count a person as a half. I am done with you.
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    Originally Posted by SmoovJ View Post
    Moron, get off your high horse. You're nothing to me. I am college educated too and I make a lot of money for a 23 yr old. I will not try to convince idiots like you on an Internet message board. All I'm saying is that you can't pragmatically use 3.5 in as a workout frequency.

    It's like saying 3.5 men fuuck you in the butt every week when in reality you can't count a person as a half. I am done with you.
    You have the penis size in your sig, sounds edumacated to me.
    You're an e-bitch, and a dumb one at that.

    I can pragmatically call you a tool, how's that?

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    Originally Posted by Justin-27 View Post
    You have the penis size in your sig, sounds edumacated to me.
    You're an e-bitch, and a dumb one at that.

    I can pragmatically call you a tool, how's that?
    Lol, now you're trying to use my sig against me. This is the Internet and my sig is supposed to make people laugh. The people that know me, matter to me and responsible for part of my success in real life don't know my identity here. Unlike you, my identity is hidden because I have a lot to lose.
    Fucck off, bitch. You lose.

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    Originally Posted by SmoovJ View Post
    Lol, now you're trying to use my sig against me. This is the Internet and my sig is supposed to make people laugh. The people that know me, matter to me and responsible for part of my success in real life don't know my identity here. Unlike you, my identity is hidden because I have a lot to lose.
    Fucck off, bitch. You lose.
    You do have a lot to lose.....................bodyfat.

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    Basically it's a simple as this, you train one day on, one day off, one day on, one day off, it does not matter what day of the week it is, what week of the month it is, what month of the year it is.

    Stop thinking about "days of the week". Routines do not have to fit perfectly into a weekly rotation.

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    Originally Posted by SmoovJ View Post
    Moron, get off your high horse. You're nothing to me. I am college educated too and I make a lot of money for a 23 yr old. I will not try to convince idiots like you on an Internet message board. All I'm saying is that you can't pragmatically use 3.5 in as a workout frequency.
    Round to the closest integer, basic math.

    It's like saying 3.5 men fuuck you in the butt every week when in reality you can't count a person as a half. I am done with you.
    That's terrific you have alot of money. Can you lend me $800? I'll pay you back $100 every other day for 2 weeks. Sound cool?

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