Can you still get fat burners with ephedra?

[DriftMonster]

It's one of the synthetic ones that does. E Sulfate also does, and is the version in Bronkaid. E HCL is the best that I've found, and often comes without the decongestant.

Yup, and HCL is stronger than sulfate. The comparison I have seen is about 25mg of Sulfate is about 20mgs of HCL. I don't know where these numbers actually came from, but it's a good guideline.

[SavageOne]

Yup, and HCL is stronger than sulfate. The comparison I have seen is about 25mg of Sulfate is about 20mgs of HCL. I don't know where these numbers actually came from, but it's a good guideline.

Teracotta broke it down like that. That's how I always remember.

[burke]

when buying what do you guys feel is the best mg to pickup. I know in terracottas guide it talks about splitting pills etc. at first... kind of seems like a pain if you get the higher mgs.

[pushinweightwi]

If ordering the HCL online just be carefull about how much and how often you order. You dont want to give anyone the impression you are running a meth lab.

[onehawaiian]

and they are?

you can find them right here in the cyberstore...
black china labs eph hardcore. this one is good.
fast action pharma also makes some old school "clones" of xenadrine, hydroxycut, and ripped fuel.

[onehawaiian]

when buying what do you guys feel is the best mg to pickup. I know in terracottas guide it talks about splitting pills etc. at first... kind of seems like a pain if you get the higher mgs.

i have a bottle of 10mg tabs... makes it easy to control doses throughout the day.
bottle has 700tabs.

[burke]

Yeah I see they sell 30mg tabs... those seem way to high...

[DriftMonster]

you can find them right here in the cyberstore...
black china labs eph hardcore. this one is good.
fast action pharma also makes some old school "clones" of xenadrine, hydroxycut, and ripped fuel.

That's pretty cool. I haven't even heard of this Sida cordifolia until now. Looks kind of promising. I was checking out pubmed and it shows to have good anti-inflammatory and hypoglycemic properties. The only problems is I have yet to find studies showing exactly how much ephedrine alkaloid is in the Sida cordifolia. So, as far as ephedrine, I guess you have to take BCL's word for it. The only thing that sucks about their supplement is the small amount of pehdrine you'll get from only taking one pill a day...

Something tells me we are going to see a ton of these Sida cordifolia supplements hitting the market soon, since it can bypass the ephedra laws.

[ObedEdom]

i have a bottle of 10mg tabs... makes it easy to control doses throughout the day.
bottle has 700tabs.

agreed...the more flexibilty in dosing the better

[onehawaiian]

That's pretty cool. I haven't even heard of this Sida cordifolia until now. Looks kind of promising. I was checking out pubmed and it shows to have good anti-inflammatory and hypoglycemic properties. The only problems is I have yet to find studies showing exactly how much ephedrine alkaloid is in the Sida cordifolia. So, as far as ephedrine, I guess you have to take BCL's word for it. The only thing that sucks about their supplement is the small amount of pehdrine you'll get from only taking one pill a day...

Something tells me we are going to see a ton of these Sida cordifolia supplements hitting the market soon, since it can bypass the ephedra laws.

sida cordifolia seems to be the most effective of the ephedra family.
that viridis crap is just...well, crap.
i agree about the dosage. i've brought the ingredient profile issues to bcl's attention.
in all honesty tho they have a pretty good formula for the average consumer.
but if you double up that's a huge amount of caffeine...
normally if i want a more potent kick i just add another 10mg tab of ephedrine hcl.

[DriftMonster]

sida cordifolia seems to be the most effective of the ephedra family.
that viridis crap is just...well, crap.
i agree about the dosage. i've brought the ingredient profile issues to bcl's attention.
in all honesty tho they have a pretty good formula for the average consumer.
but if you double up that's a huge amount of caffeine...
normally if i want a more potent kick i just add another 10mg tab of ephedrine hcl.

Yeah, definitely slowly add some ephedrine hcl to it and that's a nasty combo. I'll probably just stick with EC, due to it being really cheap and I have a ton .

[bring_the_mosh]

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[mullerhun]

and what about products that state ephedra extract?

[ObedEdom]

and what about products that state ephedra extract?

misleading marketing...technically the stems of the plant are extract but they don't contain any actives.

Bronkaid, Primatine or some pure E from Canada...that's about there is for fat loss purposes. The bright side is all of those work just fine.

[BA Bean]

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[mullerhun]

misleading marketing...technically the stems of the plant are extract but they don't contain any actives.

Bronkaid, Primatine or some pure E from Canada...that's about there is for fat loss purposes. The bright side is all of those work just fine.

so everything that says extract is a rip off?
is it working a bit atleast?

[ObedEdom]

so everything that says extract is a rip off?
is it working a bit atleast?

i dont know if I would say rip off, it's just not what you think it is. I have no idea how much active compound is any of these things, so you can try...who knows?

I just rely on the stuff that is proven to work. Brok and Prima are both regulated by the goverment and approved for use for individuals with athsma so when it says 25 mgs of ephedrine hcl it means 25 mgs

[burke]

So I am going to pick up my E today.. I already bought my C yesterday. I found out that walgreens indeed does sell primatene and bronkaid though it's not listed on their website anymore.

Should I go with Primatene or Bronkaid?

Primatene is the HCL so I am guessing go with that correct?

Also is there anything I should know about buying... is there a limit to the amount of boxes one can buy etc??

[SavageOne]

So I am going to pick up my E today.. I already bought my C yesterday. I found out that walgreens indeed does sell primatene and bronkaid though it's not listed on their website anymore.

Should I go with Primatene or Bronkaid?

Primatene is the HCL so I am guessing go with that correct?

Also is there anything I should know about buying... is there a limit to the amount of boxes one can buy etc??

Yes, HCL is better than Sulfate.

There is a limit, I can't remember it exactly, but I think it's something like 300-something pills/month.

[burke]

Alright so if I get 1 60 pack of primatene they arent going to ask me any bull**** questions or anything right... I just want to go in buy and it and leave like a pack of gum.. other than showing ID i don't care about that.

[SavageOne]

Alright so if I get 1 60 pack of primatene they arent going to ask me any bull**** questions or anything right... I just want to go in buy and it and leave like a pack of gum.. other than showing ID i don't care about that.

They might ask you what you're getting it for. I don't advocate lying, but in this case saying that it's for Asthma is the best answer. Other than that, you should be fine.

[xtechbuilderx]

Alright so if I get 1 60 pack of primatene they arent going to ask me any bull**** questions or anything right... I just want to go in buy and it and leave like a pack of gum.. other than showing ID i don't care about that.

That's pretty much all there was to it when I purchased some bronkaid from Walgreens. There were no weird questions or inquiries, I just showed ID and made my purchase.

[burke]

Just got back... no problem at all only question was if I had ID. Going to take my first dosage shortly..

[mullerhun]

i dont know if I would say rip off, it's just not what you think it is. I have no idea how much active compound is any of these things, so you can try...who knows?

I just rely on the stuff that is proven to work. Brok and Prima are both regulated by the goverment and approved for use for individuals with athsma so when it says 25 mgs of ephedrine hcl it means 25 mgs

thx for the info!
well, i guess i have to get some of these from at doc's permission.
could u tell me whats the main diff between brok, prima or etc?

[SavageOne]

thx for the info!
well, i guess i have to get some of these from at doc's permission.
could u tell me whats the main diff between brok, prima or etc?

The type of Ephedrine that's used. Bronkaid contains Sulfate, which equals about 20 mgs of HCL. Primatene contains HCL, and is also more expensive. Both contain decongestants.

[etxlifter]

yea u can buy fat burners with e in it legally. they have a certain "fast action" company that sells fat burners legally that are the exact same formulas as the original

xenadrine
hydroxicut
ripped fuel


Im using the xenadrine version (zeanalean pro) and Im loving it but i never go over 2 caps/day and dont take any within 2-3 hours of my workout.

but be careful with anything contain E especially those of yall that are out of shape or have a family history of heart problems. start low and find your tolerence.

[mullerhun]

The type of Ephedrine that's used. Bronkaid contains Sulfate, which equals about 20 mgs of HCL. Primatene contains HCL, and is also more expensive. Both contain decongestants.

thx man! repped! (its good to repped back
i gonna ask a doc

[Ben17]

yea u can buy fat burners with e in it legally. they have a certain "fast action" company that sells fat burners legally that are the exact same formulas as the original

xenadrine
hydroxicut
ripped fuel


Im using the xenadrine version (zeanalean pro) and Im loving it but i never go over 2 caps/day and dont take any within 2-3 hours of my workout.

but be careful with anything contain E especially those of yall that are out of shape or have a family history of heart problems. start low and find your tolerence.

I got this stuff Thermo Burn (by Timatic Labs in Vegas, never heard of em)from a local shop yesterday (live in CA), contains Ephedra (400mg per 2 pills)

I took them yesterday and got that feeling that I had when taking the original Xenadrine, pretty heavy appetite loss and kinda dizzy for an hour or two. I hope it works as effectively as the original Xenadrine but I have doubts. If it doesnt work as well I will use that link privided above to have something shipped I guess

[SavageOne]

I got this stuff Thermo Burn (by Timatic Labs in Vegas, never heard of em)from a local shop yesterday (live in CA), contains Ephedra (400mg per 2 pills)

I took them yesterday and got that feeling that I had when taking the original Xenadrine, pretty heavy appetite loss and kinda dizzy for an hour or two. I hope it works as effectively as the original Xenadrine but I have doubts. If it doesnt work as well I will use that link privided above to have something shipped I guess

You might be dead if you take in ~400 mgs of E.

[terracotta]

thx for the info!
well, i guess i have to get some of these from at doc's permission.
could u tell me whats the main diff between brok, prima or etc?

if you are in Hungary and not in the US, then the brands would be different. I do not know if ephedrine is readily available there or not.