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    Im a fan. . ill take a shirt. . out of the 5 supps I take 2 of them are animal. . and the other 3 r products u guys dont make . .(WMS, Whey, and BCCA)



    I don't know what Kap and Pmup products are, but for taking the time to post 'em, ya win.

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    I never understood why companies mark up their shirts so much.

    A decent quality shirt is an advertisement for a company, and think about the costs that most companies deal with for magazine ads, etc. that arguably work less effectively compared to someone wearing a shirt.

    If some newbie sees a big dude wearing a CL shirt, or whatever company, there's a strong inclination that the newbie is at least going to check out the company online, if not buy the product. There's a big difference between that and the newbie paging through a magazine and picking the one company out of the 100 that are advertising in there.

    I wouldn't mind paying $10 for a decent shirt (XXL) but $15-25 for a Tshirt is bogus given that it's an advertisement. IMHO, companies shouldn't charge any more than what it costs them to make them, and maybe even sell at a loss given the advertising that it's doing.

    Then again, you can't judge who's going to be wearing them. A 6'0 150lb wimp wearing a LG shirt doesn't say much

    EXACTLY!

    Excellent Post. Heck this may be the post of the year.

    I totally agree. You would not believe the looks/questions/stares I get when I walk around a mall or some public place with my Ergopharm Shirts or my Controlled Labs shirt on.

    The owner of the gym I used to belong to STILL gives me free T-Shirts. Why? It's cheap, and free advertisement. I'm a walking billboard for his gym. People see it and it stirs interest.

    I want some Animal stuff (belt buckle, ANIMAL T-shirt, etc.) but there is no way I'm going to lay down $50+ to promote Universal's product. Not because I don't like them, just because it wasn't thrown in on and order or something. I just refuse to pay for THEIR advertising.




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    i def hear what ur saying, but i think what the animal rep is saying is that they r not making these shirts so u buy their supps. . there are making animal into a brand. . like puff daddy is not making sean john so u buy his CD's he's making sean john because he knows there is alot of money to be made with a clothing line. i used to work for a wholesale mortgage bank and we would give our brokers anything they wanted with our name on it. . from pens to basketballs, remote controlled cars, to shirts bags ect. . but just for the sole purpose of getting them and others to choose our bank. .there is a fine line between the 2 forms of advertising. .both do advertise and brand but done a bit differently. .
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    Originally Posted by Big_Spaz View Post
    EXACTLY!

    Excellent Post. Heck this may be the post of the year.

    I totally agree. You would not believe the looks/questions/stares I get when I walk around a mall or some public place with my Ergopharm Shirts or my Controlled Labs shirt on.

    The owner of the gym I used to belong to STILL gives me free T-Shirts. Why? It's cheap, and free advertisement. I'm a walking billboard for his gym. People see it and it stirs interest.

    I want some Animal stuff (belt buckle, ANIMAL T-shirt, etc.) but there is no way I'm going to lay down $50+ to promote Universal's product. Not because I don't like them, just because it wasn't thrown in on and order or something. I just refuse to pay for THEIR advertising.




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    i def hear what ur saying, but i think what the animal rep is saying is that they r not making these shirts so u buy their supps. . there are making animal into a brand. . like puff daddy is not making sean john so u buy his CD's he's making sean john because he knows there is alot of money to be made with a clothing line. i used to work for a wholesale mortgage bank and we would give our brokers anything they wanted with our name on it. . from pens to basketballs, remote controlled cars, to shirts bags ect. . but just for the sole purpose of getting them and others to choose our bank. .there is a fine line between the 2 forms of advertising. .both do advertise and brand but done a bit differently. .
    Bingo. You, my friend, have the making of a marketer...
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    But if ya got one for free, it's OK for you to help advertise our brand?
    Of course, I personally would (and do wear quite a few brands). Tshirts are my standard wear daily.
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    Originally Posted by Naven View Post
    Of course, I personally would (and do wear quite a few brands). Tshirts are my standard wear daily.
    Question was for B...

    Got a shirt with your name on it if ya want it, B... Just let know. Peace.
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    i def hear what ur saying, but i think what the animal rep is saying is that they r not making these shirts so u buy their supps. . there are making animal into a brand. . like puff daddy is not making sean john so u buy his CD's he's making sean john because he knows there is alot of money to be made with a clothing line. i used to work for a wholesale mortgage bank and we would give our brokers anything they wanted with our name on it. . from pens to basketballs, remote controlled cars, to shirts bags ect. . but just for the sole purpose of getting them and others to choose our bank. .there is a fine line between the 2 forms of advertising. .both do advertise and brand but done a bit differently. .
    This is true - there is an amazing amount of loyalty that can be cheaply bought by a simple gesture that costs a company very little.

    In larger businesses, the cost of a few trinkets is negligible in terms of the bottom line, but can make the difference in whether a company gets a contract or not. Small things do make a difference.
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    Originally Posted by Naven View Post
    Of course, I personally would (and do wear quite a few brands). Tshirts are my standard wear daily.
    i love company t-shirts. animals is a nice one, i like the brand they use for the t-shirt, it holds up longer through wash cycles.


    just read your sig, maybe needs an update.
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    i love company t-shirts. animals is a nice one, i like the brand they use for the t-shirt, it holds up longer through wash cycles.


    just read your sig, maybe needs an update.
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    Originally Posted by Universal Rep View Post
    Anyone here a fan of Animal, I got 5 XL to give out... http://www.animalpak.com/store/html/product.cfm?id=349

    Who here is a fan and why? I'll pick five...
    I am a fan of Animal. Right now I am taking Animal Flex and my shoulder that has always bothered me at times has been feeling great since I started taking it. I am also taking Storm and I have taken Shock Therapy in the past. Very solid products. I am going to try Animal Test in June.
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    The only supplement t-shirt I bought is one made by Animal/Universal, which has on the front "Shut the fock up and train"
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    Originally Posted by BigGame View Post
    I am a fan of Animal. Right now I am taking Animal Flex and my shoulder that has always bothered me at times has been feeling great since I started taking it. I am also taking Storm and I have taken Shock Therapy in the past. Very solid products. I am going to try Animal Test in June.
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    The only supplement t-shirt I bought is one made by Animal/Universal, which has on the front "Shut the fock up and train"
    The one that always sells out first at shows...
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    Originally Posted by nni View Post
    i love company t-shirts. animals is a nice one, i like the brand they use for the t-shirt, it holds up longer through wash cycles.


    just read your sig, maybe needs an update.
    Yeah, 50/50 for better wear and better drape... PM me bro. I got an extra one for ya if interested. Peace.
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    Originally Posted by Naven View Post
    This is true - there is an amazing amount of loyalty that can be cheaply bought by a simple gesture that costs a company very little.

    In larger businesses, the cost of a few trinkets is negligible in terms of the bottom line, but can make the difference in whether a company gets a contract or not. Small things do make a difference.
    I agree with most here--I really, really have to like a brand or company before I decide to buy or wear a t-shirt for 'em. What you said is spot on--it's the small things, which together, make up the big things.
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    is there a place you can get more than one so you dont have to pay separate shipping for all different shirts?
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    Originally Posted by Universal Rep View Post
    Anyone here a fan of Animal, I got 5 XL to give out... http://www.animalpak.com/store/html/product.cfm?id=349

    Who here is a fan and why? I'll pick five...
    I am a big animal fan. im actually almost out of my animal pak, and am excited to get a new tin/tub with the new labels. They look pretty sweet!


    do you have 5 xl shirts to give out or one 5xl shirt?

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    Originally Posted by TT22 View Post
    I am a big animal fan. im actually almost out of my animal pak, and am excited to get a new tin/tub with the new labels. They look pretty sweet!


    do you have 5 xl shirts to give out or one 5xl shirt?

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    The one that always sells out first at shows...
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    Anyone here a fan of Animal, I got 5 XL to give out... http://www.animalpak.com/store/html/product.cfm?id=349

    Who here is a fan and why? I'll pick five...
    lets see I've used in the past

    Animal Pump
    Animal Flex
    Animal Stak
    Animal M-stak
    Animal Pak

    which all did exactly what they claim too

    and am currently using Animal Pak again and Universal Prostate as part of my pct for this cycle http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=106686141

    there are pics of the Pak and Universal Prostate in the log too
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    Originally Posted by Universal Rep View Post
    Yeah, 50/50 for better wear and better drape... PM me bro. I got an extra one for ya if interested. Peace.
    thanks, clear some space.
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    Originally Posted by Universal Rep View Post
    I'm giving out 5... And including you, it's 3/5... Two more left fellas.
    I just got a bottle of Animal Stak (I thought I was getting "PAK" but misordered). Oh well, I'll take it anyhow...and have been for a couple days. I like Universal's products, always have, take my liver tabs daily (just popped 6 of them)

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    Originally Posted by nni View Post
    thanks, clear some space.
    get the XXL size, you need a t-shirt teddy for sleeping....
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    I think it's all the same from wearing an Under Amour, Nike, or a Universal shirt. It's all about branding and education, simple as that. Supplement companies aren't making a large amount of money on clothing or accessories(but comes with the territory/competition), so i don't think it's ridiculous to pay $15 for a shirt of a company that's helped you hit your weightlifting/fitness goals. That gets people asking questions about the company, and if I could give advice to someone out there that had questions about results from products I've tried, why not? I think it's great that someone would want to inform someone else about everything they've tried and worked/hasn't worked. That's one of the biggest goals of this forum.
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    Originally Posted by Universal Rep View Post
    Anyone here a fan of Animal, I got 5 XL to give out... http://www.animalpak.com/store/html/product.cfm?id=349

    Who here is a fan and why? I'll pick five...
    While I have just recently become a BB.com member I have learned a lot in the short time I have been here. One thing that always creates a buzz are Universal Animal products. Reading all the reviews has influenced me to purchase Universal Animal Pump in my next order. For the moment however I will continue using Shock Therapy and am awaiting the addition of STORM to stack with.

    So, I'd like a shirt, and I will wear it proudly.
    I don't even mind that its XL, I like to wear my shirts loose.

    "Long live Universal!"
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    Originally Posted by cxm View Post
    get the XXL size, you need a t-shirt teddy for sleeping....
    xl fits now. half of my t-shirts are extremely tight/short on the sleeves now. muscles are ruining my wardrobe.
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    Originally Posted by Universal Rep View Post
    Anyone here a fan of Animal, I got 5 XL to give out... http://www.animalpak.com/store/html/product.cfm?id=349

    Who here is a fan and why? I'll pick five...
    Because unlike other supp companys you guys have a wide variety of supps & all of them work!

    Edit:Btw the shirts look great, i see why they sell out @ the expos
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    Originally Posted by nni View Post
    xl fits now. half of my t-shirts are extremely tight/short on the sleeves now. muscles are ruining my wardrobe.
    that sucks, the worst part is when your long sleeved dress shirts start making you look from the disco era...
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