Dr. Phil bails out one of the 8 teens in the brutal YouTube beating

[10TonBrick]

It depends on the situation. If it's 1on1 or 1on2 then yes you should defend yourself. But when it's 1on8 with two guys standing outside so no way to get out, you have to try to talk yourself out of it unless you are some trained fighter. That's exactly what any person would do in a real life situation and not some e-talk. Let's look at her situation a little first of all. A 100 pd girl who probably has never been in a fight before and just woke up from being unconscious only 5 minutes ago most likely with a concussion. Look concussion up if you don't know what it is because I'm not explaining it for you. So don't ****in criticize her for not fighting back.

seriously....that would be like 8, 275-300lb BBers attacking me..with 2 standing out side. when you explorate the data

id be ass fuked

[Pain Inflicter]

It depends on the situation. If it's 1on1 or 1on2 then yes you should defend yourself. But when it's 1on8 with two guys standing outside so no way to get out, you have to try to talk yourself out of it unless you are some trained fighter. That's exactly what any person would do in a real life situation and not some e-talk. Let's look at her situation a little first of all. A 100 pd girl who probably has never been in a fight before and just woke up from being unconscious only 5 minutes ago most likely with a concussion. Look concussion up if you don't know what it is because I'm not explaining it for you. So don't ****in criticize her for not fighting back.

You are wrong. Not everyone will sit there and get killed because there are eight of them. If anything, hit the one whos hitting you and make a break for it. Never sit there and get pounded on. And thats not e-talk. Thats common sense.
Not everyone would protect themselves or try to protect themselves. Obviously you are one of these people. I am not.
No I wasnt in her situation and maybe she handled it the best way she knew how. Im just saying I would of tried to get out of there. Its not like she was locked up in a basement. She was inches from the front door. Who cares if someone was being a look out. Run outside and scream.

When women get raped do they tell them to just sit there and take it because the attacker is bigger and stronger? no.

edit-and dr. phil is a homo.

[jasonb123]

Also dr phil and his whole crew are idiots. They gave 30k to bail this fuciking punk girl out! Are you kidding me? He can't even bring her on his show because the judge has ordered everyone to not talk about the case. This is not the way to make an example out of these people by bailing them out of jail! **** dr phil. How about giving the money to the victim instead?

[jetblackz1]

Who the **** watches Dr. Phil anymore?

now the show is going to be about her talking about how SHE was the victim in this whole thing.

[NeloAngelo]

1. Try them all as adults.
2. The girl could have been killed.
3. There is NO defending yourself against 8 girls when you are a girl, all of which who look like they outweigh you by 40 lbs.
4. I have lost all respect for Dr. Phil now, he is desperate and running out of ideas, ALL of his dwindling credibility was lost anyway when he cheated on his wife.

[10TonBrick]

You are wrong. Not everyone will sit there and get killed because there are eight of them. If anything, hit the one whos hitting you and make a break for it. Never sit there and get pounded on. And thats not e-talk. Thats common sense.
Not everyone would protect themselves or try to protect themselves. Obviously you are one of these people. I am not.
No I wasnt in her situation and maybe she handled it the best way she knew how. Im just saying I would of tried to get out of there. Its not like she was locked up in a basement. She was inches from the front door. Who cares if someone was being a look out. Run outside and scream.

When women get raped do they tell them to just sit there and take it because the attacker is bigger and stronger? no.

edit-and dr. phil is a homo.

maybe if it was an 8 way gang rape....

[Pain Inflicter]

maybe if it was an 8 way gang rape....

Imagine this happened to you. You were walking down a dark street and 8 guys with bats walked up to you and said they were going to kill you. What would you do, knowing that they planned on killing you or at least said they were going to? Im just curious.

[jasonb123]

You are wrong. Not everyone will sit there and get killed because there are eight of them. If anything, hit the one whos hitting you and make a break for it. Never sit there and get pounded on. And thats not e-talk. Thats common sense.
Not everyone would protect themselves or try to protect themselves. Obviously you are one of these people. I am not.
No I wasnt in her situation and maybe she handled it the best way she knew how. Im just saying I would of tried to get out of there. Its not like she was locked up in a basement. She was inches from the front door. Who cares if someone was being a look out. Run outside and scream.

When women get raped do they tell them to just sit there and take it because the attacker is bigger and stronger? no.

Yes when the girl being raped is knocked out, she can't do much. Once again being raped is not the same thing as being in a situation with 8 girls yelling at you and throwing punches. Alright just for you,

Concussion - Cognitive symptoms include confusion, disorientation, and difficulty focusing attention. Loss of consciousness may occur but is not necessarily correlated with the severity of the concussion if it is brief. Post-traumatic amnesia, in which the person cannot remember events leading up to the injury or after it, or both, is a hallmark of concussion. Confusion, another concussion hallmark, may be present immediately or may develop over several minutes.

[10TonBrick]

Imagine this happened to you. You were walking down a dark street and 8 guys with bats walked up to you and said they were going to kill you. What would you do, knowing that they planned on killing you or at least said they were going to? Im just curious.

in that situation, run like living hell and scream for help like a bitch (serious)

but they never said they were gonna kill the girl....and they didnt have bats

[Pain Inflicter]

in that situation, run like living hell and scream for help like a bitch (serious)

but they never said they were gonna kill the girl....and they didnt have bats

Its the same situation.

- You are in a situation that you cant control. You cant fight your way out.
- She was in a situation she couldnt control and she couldnt get out of.

So I guess what we need to do is figure out when we can start to defend ourselves. We have to figure out the severity of the situation first I guess. Do we defend ourselves if its one on one? What if theres two people? Or three?

[plaster]

Yes I am. Why not? Bruce Lee learned to defend himself and I am comparing the two because it was said that she weighs "100 pounds" She could of defended herself. A kick to the temple would of downed that fat bitch.

Probably the most stupid post I've read on the internet in quite a while.

[jasonb123]

Imagine this happened to you. You were walking down a dark street and 8 guys with bats walked up to you and said they were going to kill you. What would you do, knowing that they planned on killing you or at least said they were going to? Im just curious.

First of all we aren't talking about what I would do. What would this 18 yr old 100 pd girl do that you criticize? Most likely her sympathetic nervous system would take over. She would freeze for probably a minute. Then when blood gets to her brain she might run for her life unless she's already dead. But then again if she has a concussion or has been unconscious, she would most likely just freeze and plead for her life.

[10TonBrick]

Its the same situation.

- You are in a situation that you cant control. You cant fight your way out.
- She was in a situation she couldnt control and she couldnt get out of.

So I guess what we need to do is figure out when we can start to defend ourselves. We have to figure out the severity of the situation first I guess. Do we defend ourselves if its one on one? What if theres two people? Or three?

no...lets make them the same. im locked in a house and cant get away, with 8 guys with baseball bats. they just said they would kill me. ok. knowing im gonna die for sure if i do nothing, id fight like hell to survive, doing what ever it would take.

when its life and death and your trapped, you always should defend your self.

if its life an death and the oppertunity to escape is greater than the chances of fiighting off 8 men, then try to escape.
you always do what is smart. if you can run, then dont try to fight 8 people. if you cant run, then fight for your life

this is totally out of context and does not relate to the girl tho...we are men, big and strong. knowing how to fight, not a 100lb cheerleader

[Waginah]

ndg thanks for the sig brah, u stupid?

[jasonb123]

no...lets make them the same. im locked in a house and cant get away, with 8 guys with baseball bats. they just said they would kill me. ok. knowing im gonna die for sure if i do nothing, id fight like hell to survive, doing what ever it would take.

when its life and death and your trapped, you always should defend your self.

if its life an death and the oppertunity to escape is greater than the chances of fiighting off 8 men, then try to escape.
you always do what is smart. if you can run, then dont try to fight 8 people. if you cant run, then fight for your life

this is totally out of context and does not relate to the girl tho...we are men, big and strong. knowing how to fight, not a 100lb cheerleader

That's basically what my friend did and it worked. He's about your size, 250 pds 6 ft. Huge mofo. But about 8 guys jumped him in the parking lot with bats (ex-gf drama). He had enough time to get in his car, drive straight through them hitting like 2-3 guys with his car and drive the **** out eventhough he's a huge and could take on a couple guys. Week later he's found out who most of the guys were and gets sweet revenge lol.

[Pain Inflicter]

no...lets make them the same. im locked in a house and cant get away, with 8 guys with baseball bats. they just said they would kill me. ok. knowing im gonna die for sure if i do nothing, id fight like hell to survive, doing what ever it would take.

when its life and death and your trapped, you always should defend your self.

if its life an death and the oppertunity to escape is greater than the chances of fiighting off 8 men, then try to escape.
you always do what is smart. if you can run, then dont try to fight 8 people. if you cant run, then fight for your life

this is totally out of context and does not relate to the girl tho...we are men, big and strong. knowing how to fight, not a 100lb cheerleader

Nice post. I agree.

[10TonBrick]

That's basically what my friend did and it worked. He's about your size, 250 pds 6 ft. Huge mofo. But about 8 guys jumped him in the parking lot with bats (ex-gf drama). He had enough time to get in his car, drive straight through them hitting like 2-3 guys with his car and drive the **** out eventhough he's a huge and could take on a couple guys. Week later he's found out who most of the guys were and gets sweet revenge lol.

he made the right choice...he prolly would have wound up dead.

once i was jumped by 7 guys, i was like 15. i was knocked to the ground and kicked to **** before i even knew wtf had happened.

i was with 2 other ppl....they all ran. i decided to "man up" to them. bad idea.

[Pain Inflicter]

Some of these guys in this thread get bent out of shape too easily. Makes me lol.

[youm0nt]

(no ****?)

[JBrabble]

I'm not saying what they did was right but, this dosn't come close to a "brutal beating"... It's being blown way out of proportion.

[10TonBrick]

I'm not saying what they did was right but, this dosn't come close to a "brutal beating"... It's being blown way out of proportion.

not IMO

they kept her captive, slammed her head against a wall KOing her...then started to film it.
and even had 2 MEN out side to stand gaurd.

did you even see her before and after pics?

[jasonb123]

That's what I would do too. But this isn't about what we would do, it's about what the victim did. I just don't think you have the right to criticize her that is all. She will probably take some self defense and do what we would do if it happened again. But if she was partly blind and deaf and actually had a concussion, then it might have already been too late for her to do anything even with self defense. Not being her fault of course if her brain isn't working properly.

[birdman2]

Put yourself in the fathers position. If you daughter ****ed up and was at the house while this went down.. and she was released. And these reporters were getting in your daughters face.

I'd be going to jail for breaking every damn camera and anyone else who tried to stop me.

That ladies voice just really annoyed me.

[Pain Inflicter]

not IMO

they kept her captive, slammed her head against a wall KOing her...then started to film it.
and even had 2 MEN out side to stand gaurd.

did you even see her before and after pics?

I havent seen the pics. Link?

[DMoore30]

What a bunch of trailer trash those 8 people are especially the fat bitch

[Johnnybomb]

You are wrong. Not everyone will sit there and get killed because there are eight of them. If anything, hit the one whos hitting you and make a break for it. Never sit there and get pounded on. And thats not e-talk. Thats common sense.
Not everyone would protect themselves or try to protect themselves. Obviously you are one of these people. I am not.
No I wasnt in her situation and maybe she handled it the best way she knew how. Im just saying I would of tried to get out of there. Its not like she was locked up in a basement. She was inches from the front door. Who cares if someone was being a look out. Run outside and scream.

When women get raped do they tell them to just sit there and take it because the attacker is bigger and stronger? no.

edit-and dr. phil is a homo.

Exactly. I'd fight if there were 20. Better to die on your feet than die on your knees. And because...

[10TonBrick]

I havent seen the pics. Link?

saw them in a thread a few days ago...dont know what one

someone post em up if you have them

it was bad..couldnt even recognize her (serious)

[Pain Inflicter]

Exactly. I'd fight if there were 20. Better to die on your feet than die on your knees. And because...

ohuh...you better run before people start calling you an ethug for wanting to defend yourself.

[10TonBrick]

Put yourself in the fathers position. If you daughter ****ed up and was at the house while this went down.. and she was released. And these reporters were getting in your daughters face.

I'd be going to jail for breaking every damn camera and anyone else who tried to stop me.

That ladies voice just really annoyed me.

if my offspring did that, id be so mad/ashamed id leave her there. she should be punished reguardless if she is my child.

[MuscleManxx]

At least it was girls fighting, so the damage to the one girl was minimal. Its not like a few suburban white chicks can fight anyways.

well shes deaf in one ear and got eye damage in one of her eye sockets

idk bout u but id be pretty damn pissed