Never full...

**ZDub212** · 01-09-2007, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by slaydox

Yea 6-8 20oz bottles a day plus water from the fountain and fridge

Dude, you're 5'8" 118lbs and still growing! (Your test levels are on top of the world) What are you worried about??? If you train heavy, keep hydrated, get enough rest, and stay active, then you can just eat however much you want man. You'll be the hulk in notime! In fact, go eat 5 cheeseburgers right now, fill your bathtub up with green paint and dive in. Then rip off your shirt and run around slamming things with your fists and consume every piece of meat in sight.

**slaydox** · 01-09-2007, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by ZacharyMills

Dude, you're 5'8" 118lbs and still growing! (Your test levels are on top of the world) What are you worried about??? If you train heavy, keep hydrated, get enough rest, and stay active, then you can just eat however much you want man. You'll be the hulk in notime! In fact, go eat 5 cheeseburgers right now, fill your bathtub up with green paint and dive in. Then rip off your shirt and run around slamming things with your fists and consume every piece of meat in sight.

That Made me laugh lol Def. reps for that, yea Im actually 125 now maybe more. I went to new york and did just that ate what ever i wanted i think it was a little to much junk food and not enough clean foods though, i mean like 3 pieces of pie them some cake and some chips and stuff lmao but now im eating clean from now on. I just through out the rest of the the cheese cake in my fridge along with other stuff like cinnamon sugar grahm crackers and the rest of that M&M trail mix. so now its going to be eating clean and how ever much i want cause if i eat clean foods i dont have to worry about getting 6000 calories in one day and itll all be going towards repair! lol

**Random907** · 01-09-2007, 07:36 PM

Try a keto diet.

**swordsmanzenn** · 01-09-2007, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by StandTall

Fruit is always good i had 10 bananas in addition to my normal breakfast i know i shouldnt have but i was humgry and bananas taste damn good

and they are cheap cheap cheap.

**ZDub212** · 01-09-2007, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by slaydox

That Made me laugh lol Def. reps for that, yea Im actually 125 now maybe more. I went to new york and did just that ate what ever i wanted i think it was a little to much junk food and not enough clean foods though, i mean like 3 pieces of pie them some cake and some chips and stuff lmao but now im eating clean from now on. I just through out the rest of the the cheese cake in my fridge along with other stuff like cinnamon sugar grahm crackers and the rest of that M&M trail mix. so now its going to be eating clean and how ever much i want cause if i eat clean foods i dont have to worry about getting 6000 calories in one day and itll all be going towards repair! lol

Excellent plan. Eat a lot of clean calories, train hard and expect success. Treat yourself though, once a week feel free to dirty up your calories. Try to dirty up your calories without sugar, but definitely get some sugar if that's what your craving, it wouldn't be a treat day unless you ate what you wanted. For the rest of the week, try making foods that seem like cheats...but are actually made up of clean calories. Examples you say??? Alrighty!!!

Instead of
Ice cream - Edy's Slow Churned No Sugar Added Ice Cream. Not a lot of sugar, tastes excellent, good source of fiber. Try it out!
Macaroni and cheese - Whole wheat macaroni with nonfat or cottage cheese
Sugary Roasted Nuts - Toast whole almonds (or nut of choice) and top with splenda
Frappes - Protein milkshake! (I think we all know this one by now)
Candy - Plenty of fruit
Storebought trail mix - Make your own with whole nuts and dried fruit
Protein bars - Not so bad storebought but def try making your own!
Fast food burgers - Buy lean red meat or turkey and make your own!
White Bread - Whole wheat bread
Hamburger helper - Whole wheat pasta with lean meat
Doughnuts - Sugar free whole grain muffins
Potato chips - light popcorn or baked tortilla chips
Whole milk - Simply Smart lowfat milk
Soda - Diet soda/crystal light/flavored water
Butter - Promise fatfree butterspread
Sugar - Splenda
Pudding/Jello - Fatfree/sugar free jello/pudding
French fries - Cut up sweet potatoes into fry shape and bake on baking sheet

There are tons of other ways to eat cheat like foods. It feels like you're cheating when you're actually eating whole foods and clean calories. Gotta love that! Best of luck man!

**ZDub212** · 01-09-2007, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by slaydox

That Made me laugh lol Def. reps for that, yea Im actually 125 now maybe more. I went to new york and did just that ate what ever i wanted i think it was a little to much junk food and not enough clean foods though, i mean like 3 pieces of pie them some cake and some chips and stuff lmao but now im eating clean from now on. I just through out the rest of the the cheese cake in my fridge along with other stuff like cinnamon sugar grahm crackers and the rest of that M&M trail mix. so now its going to be eating clean and how ever much i want cause if i eat clean foods i dont have to worry about getting 6000 calories in one day and itll all be going towards repair! lol

And don't you dare do a keto diet! If trying to bulk up, you need your calories and you need your carbs! Only use keto for when you've turned into a raging muscled machine and you need to drop a lb or 2 of fat. Again, best of luck man

**slaydox** · 01-09-2007, 08:34 PM

Tommorow Were having hambugers, these are pretty big to but there served on white hamburger buns. Would it be better to bring my own chicken breast and have them grill it?

**ZDub212** · 01-09-2007, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by slaydox

Tommorow Were having hambugers, these are pretty big to but there served on white hamburger buns. Would it be better to bring my own chicken breast and have them grill it?

I wouldn't say that you should bring your own chicken breast, just because you should incorporate red meat into your diet. A couple of burgers isn't a bad thing by any means. Personally, I would go, eat the burgers and save my chicken breast for another time. Maybe bring some whole wheat buns if you could, but they're not necessary either. Again, you just need to lift heavy and eat heavy.

**slaydox** · 01-10-2007, 03:34 AM

Yea but i had 2 slices of pizza and 1.5 lbs of trail mix last night so i was kinda thinking of going clean today lmao. But yea im going to try to get some whole wheat buns if not o well ill survive.

**xamadeix** · 01-10-2007, 04:05 AM

Hate to break this to you slaydox..but your a young 16 year old kid.. your metabolic.. hormones.. is probably skyrocketing now that you've started eating again.. perfectly normal!

**ZDub212** · 01-10-2007, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by slaydox

Yea but i had 2 slices of pizza and 1.5 lbs of trail mix last night so i was kinda thinking of going clean today lmao. But yea im going to try to get some whole wheat buns if not o well ill survive.

First of all, trail mix is pretty healthy. Second of all 2 slices of pizza provides you with some high impact carbs and protein. Third of all, enjoy the burgers! Eat them and save your chicken breast! Eat your chicken later, and then eat cleaner. But at your age, with your test levels, training hard + lots of food (ANY FOOD!) = great gains

**slaydox** · 01-10-2007, 08:02 AM

Yea i actually decided to get a workout in last night and use the excess calories for good. So i did some chest and i did a round on the ab lounge.
My legs and arms were still sore from monday night so my bodys got alot of repairing to do.

**CHM** · 01-10-2007, 11:23 AM

and if your worried about the GI of the white burger bun, just remember the meat contains protein/fat and will affect the rate of digestion for the bun. Don't worry about it.

**slaydox** · 01-10-2007, 02:53 PM

O man i just got back from my grandma's and GOD it took so much will power not to demolish the cookies. She makes these really good cookies and when i start eating them i usually eat a couple dozen....lmao but i need to start eating a little cleaner and not eating 3 dozen cookies haha just thought id share my expierence, trust me i REALLY want to eat all of them =(

**StandTall** · 01-10-2007, 04:03 PM

16 is an age where you should take advantage of the rapid development you can achieve during this period. Eat heaps and grow grow grow restricting cals and food could do more harm then good to your hormone levels and development

**CHM** · 01-10-2007, 04:12 PM

Proud of your discipline Slaydox!

**CHM** · 01-10-2007, 04:14 PM

Restricting calories will do more harm than good, but eating healthy is important too. You just have to find a balance.

**xamadeix** · 01-10-2007, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by CHM

Restricting calories will do more harm than good, but eating healthy is important too. You just have to find a balance.

^^ absolutely right. i was eating under 1000 and lifting..all i did was get weaker and weaker..to the point where i could barely get out of bed in the morning.. i almost fell on the ground when i woke up once.. thats basicly when i realized its time to get help.

**CHM** · 01-10-2007, 05:10 PM

I had a similiar experience. Too much of anything can be bad.

**slaydox** · 01-10-2007, 05:37 PM

Yea i totally agree but i also had pizza last night and 1.5lbs of trail mix (walmarts brand almonds, cashews, peanuts, raisens and m&m's) so today i decided to with hold on any junk food. But yea i restricted myself so much that after i started recovery i couldnt stop eating junk food when i started because i deprived myself of it for sooooo long.

**VforVlad** · 01-10-2007, 05:41 PM

if u wanan get full a bit faster trying drinking a ****load of water b4 u eat, i dont know how healthy this is, but it helps fill me up..also STAY AWAY from white breads and such because they always make me unbelievably hungry, and at that point i cant control the urge to EAT , good thing im bulking

..this is just my 2 cents.

-VforVlad-

**slaydox** · 01-10-2007, 05:43 PM

haha yea i started drinking water alot, but i chug it so it makes my stomach feel full to capacity. I agree with the white bread lol after i eat it i feel hungry like an hour later even if there was protein and fat with it lol

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