Oh wow the greatest midget fighter of all time can beat him that really discredit him huh.
Saying "size don't matter" is something only small men say, size matters A LOT.
IF the midget Is WAAAAAAAAY more skilled then yeah they overcome the size differential, but a journeyman heavyweight, or a novice would wreck mighty mouses anus and he could do diddly squat about it.
So again, yes highly trained skilled midgets can beat untrained slub big men, but if the big man is trained, there is NOTHING the midget can do except be dominated.
Size.
Matters.
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Literally thousands of people have been in the UFC. He was never an elite fighter. And it doesn’t matter who he trained with Steiner was a D1 All American. He’s at another level.
For illustration purposes, if Riddle was at a good camp someone with Steiner’s credentials would be teaching Riddle. And a lot of MMA gyms guys with resumes not even that good are teaching the wrestling. You don’t become that level of a wrestler training wrestling part time as part of your MMA training.
And I’m not talking about pro wrestling, I’m talking about catch wrestling. Again, catch wrestling is responsible for the existence of Brazilian jiu jujutsu. Josh Barnett, the youngest UFC champ in history is a catch wrestler, for example.
The point of bringing up Hulk Hogan was just to illustrate how guys used to be trained. They were stretched with catch wrestling submissions to see if they were tough enough to handle it. Pro wrestling training when Steiner was coming up was vastly different than it is today. He would have been put in several submission holds before he even started learning to take bumps.
You’re also suffering from recency bias with Steiner. This was prime Steiner before the steroid abuse. As an illustration of Steiner’s athleticism he invented what would essentially become the hurracanrana, the Frankensteiner.
It’s indisputable that Steiner is a superior wrestler. It’s indisputable that he’s bigger and stronger.
Riddle would have a striking advantage but he would have a reach disadvantage and his striking was not scary.
In a legit fight a Prime Steiner would likely take him down and bully the f out of him.
Brock Lesnar became UFC HW champion based on his elite wrestling and strength advantage, so your dismissiveness of Steiner beating up a welterweight is a little ridiculous.Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. -C.S. Lewis
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Steiner has said in interviews that when he was in prime BPP shreddedness--he actually only weighed about 230. So the size difference would be a little bit closer with Riddle, compared to somebody l like Lesnar who actually fought UFC at 265.
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Mighty Mouse walks around at like 150, dude is pretty jacked even though he's short. Elite level MMA fighters cannot even connect a punch with Mighty Mouse because he's so elusive and you think you could just grab him? Lol.
Back when I trained, we had a former D1 linebacker come in. He was massive. He was acting cocky so our coach put him in with one of our local circuit 155 lbers. Our guy was dominating local circuit, but lost to a WEC reject handedly. Anyway, our guy completely had his way with the linebacker. Choked him out in literally 20 seconds, then they sparred again and he did it again easily. Mighty Mouse is a lot more skilled than our guy who was dominated by a WEC reject.
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So what? Kurt is smaller than Puder nor did he think the Kimura was allowed by the rules. He also would go on to be released from WWE a couple of months later due to not being medically fit to wrestle anymore with his bad neck. During his TNA career that followed he was basically paralyzed on one side.
Nobody cares about what some random Handeggballdork did in a bar either.
I know, from personal experience that submitting amateur wrestlers is pretty damn hard and not fun at all. I don't want to imagine how annoying it would feel to have a NCAA wrestler lie on you, who is that much bigger.
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What happens if Steiner gets a takedown? He is not a trained fighter, he has never trained to deal with striking or ground work other then wrestling. Steiner would literally get rolled instantly if tried anything other then stalling.
There is levels to this and Riddle is in a different world when It comes to fighting then Scott thr size different would not be enough to compensate the skill gap.
Could a prime Steiner train months for this and have a chance? Sure but he could not beat Riddle with the skills he had.
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03-02-2021, 09:58 PM #47
Yeah mayne when I was in the gym one time we had this BJJ guy he was 5'2" and weighed 115lbs and this football dude walked in, he was like 6'11" weighed legit 420lb and the BJJ guy just had him down and tapping within seconds.
My story, like yours never heppeened. BJJ guys literally think BJJ gives you phucking superpowers and you could beat 10 400lb men with it.
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03-03-2021, 06:20 AM #48
Keep telling yourself that. I bet you also think Royce Gracie didn't win UFC 1 and that the Roger Huerta street fight never happened.
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