let's be srs, no matter who the president is/would be, it would be difficult for any gov't to get a handle on coronavirus, especially when it's so contagious. many people don't show symptoms for a long time, and by then they've already infected others, which is why i think quarantine isn't gonna be too effective. the best thing you can do is to try and keep it together, and prevent mass panic.
aside from that you're just gonna have paid msm shills sitting on sites like twitter and ********, pointing fingers at everyone in order to get clicks.
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03-09-2020, 07:30 AM #422
Coworkers roommate comes back from a several month long trip to Italy tonight
Exciting times
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03-09-2020, 07:44 AM #423
So based on other countries, at this point in time from the first few cases being discovered, US numbers should be going up at an alarming rate if the spread had gotten out of hand.
So this means one of two things:
- We were able to decently manage the spread
- We simply aren't testing enough people to confirm they do indeed have it so the numbers are terribly off
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03-09-2020, 07:47 AM #424
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03-09-2020, 07:49 AM #425
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03-09-2020, 07:52 AM #426
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03-09-2020, 07:56 AM #428
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03-09-2020, 07:57 AM #429
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03-09-2020, 08:01 AM #431
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03-09-2020, 08:02 AM #432
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03-09-2020, 08:04 AM #433
That's true. But we supposedly have in excess of one million test kits distributed. I would think (uhhh, hope) at this point ANYONE with flu symptoms is getting tested for it at their family doctor, etc. We, in theory, should have been seeing serious spikes in numbers over the last few days.
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03-09-2020, 08:08 AM #434
Can someone with a medical background give this a read? They are attempting to track "Influenza Like Illness" cases in the US to see if there is a spike. I believe they are showing that to date, the number of cases are consistent with the norm historically. I.e. not an abnormal number indicating widespread transmission going under the radar.
https://github.com/reichlab/ncov/blo...est-report.pdfWe are all gunna make it
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03-09-2020, 08:20 AM #435
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Oh, God, no, we're not anywhere near doing that. None of that is happening. As of Friday, California and Washington have the largest testing capacities, but then it drops off rather dramatically:
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...avirus/607597/
Oregon, situated between the California and Washington hot spots, can test only about 40 people a day. ... The Texas Tribune has reported that the state can test approximately 30 people a day. ... Other states can test even fewer. Hawaii can test fewer than 20 people a day, though it could double that number in an emergency, an official told us. Iowa has supplies to test about 500 patients a day. Arkansas, though not near a current known outbreak, is able to test only four or five patients a day.
On the East Coast, testing capacity varies significantly. New York State has 22 positive cases, including several cases of community transmission in Manhattan and Brooklyn. It can test 100 to 200 people a day. Neighboring New Jersey and Connecticut have not shared any information about how many tests they have run, or about their daily testing capacity. ... Pennsylvania can test only about a dozen people a day, and Delaware can test about 50 people, our survey found.
These data come with an important caveat. Currently, most labs require two specimens to test one person. Single-specimen testing capability is being developed, but right now the top-line number of available tests should be cut in half. In other words, “1.5 million tests” should be able to test roughly 750,000 people.
Both Washington and California are reporting that they have far more cases they're monitoring than can actually be tested (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/06/h...ronavirus.html), and LifeCare announced at a press conference last week that they can neither test all their surviving patients nor have they gotten results on their other suspected coronavirus deaths yet.
Basically, you're only getting tested if your doctor proactively demands it, and even then, it probably just isn't going to happen in any timely manner. Quarantining you to see if you get sick effectively is the test.Last edited by ANumber1; 03-09-2020 at 08:30 AM.
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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03-09-2020, 08:28 AM #436
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03-09-2020, 08:34 AM #437
I don’t understand why people are still worried China has had this for months, and the death rate there has stopped it seems like.
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03-09-2020, 08:34 AM #438
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The CDC should have had this spun up nationwide after Valentine's Day with someone making sure adequate PPE was available to every hospital from strategic reserves. The United States was way behind the eight ball.
China still has 60 million people who have been locked in their houses for a month. The missed point is that if you lose control of this, the things that have to happen to put the genie back in the bottle are not good.
Chinese officials be like "hooray, we stopped coronavirus".
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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03-09-2020, 08:41 AM #439
Dude, its absolutely asinine to think numbers coming from China are what's really happening. They lie about things like murder and general crime rate for example to make their country seem better. You don't think they'll lie about infection and death rate on something this?
I absolutely hope that infection rate is leveling off as it has shown to be for the last couple weeks. But who knows what the real numbers are.
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03-09-2020, 08:47 AM #440
So as noted above me, China took DRASTIC measures, and they started them right around now, in terms of progression of known outbreak. This chart is quite useful. The orange line representing US cases has been shifted to the left by 46 days to align our outbreak curve with Chinas.
If we assume the data from China was 100% accurate, the only way that we can mimic those numbers is by mass quarantine. They were welding apartments shut. We won't be doing that. They were rush building hospitals and quarantine camps. We are struggling to even test.
The data after President Xi mandated that the virus would be under control is up to you to believe or not. The roll off is quite perfect.
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03-09-2020, 08:57 AM #441
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03-09-2020, 08:59 AM #442
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03-09-2020, 09:01 AM #443
That is what I thought as well. Just a weird coincidence one of the worst flu months in recent memory coincides with the outbreak of a new virus with similar symptoms to the flu. My step-daughters private school, which hosts less than 200 total kids (K-8) had 50 kids out at a time one week.
lol, think we have tested like 2k people here stateside. So either they have information/data that says mass testing isn't beneficial/needed..... or the government is that incompetent. The second is a scary though when you think about it.6'1 - 240lbs
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03-09-2020, 09:02 AM #444
Also what difference do the tests even make?
If someone has the symptoms we dont need a test to quarantine them, we can do it from common sense
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03-09-2020, 09:03 AM #445
idk if this was posted but we had a doctor here in BC Canada, our official health officer, who's studied and fought against SARS, h1n1, polio, and the other major viruses, but she cried on TV when giving news of coronavirus, so i think it's way more serious than anything else. never even seen a medical professional come close to being emotional
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03-09-2020, 09:05 AM #446
Because we didn't have one small area like Wuhan get mass infected at one time. Anything stateside most likely came from traveling, and is scattered throughout the country. Plus many deaths could have been attributed to flu/pneumonia.
Gotta be logical.... if this virus was going around all of December in China, and with all the travel in/out of there, it didn't just magically show up in the middle of February. It's been circulating around for over 2 months.6'1 - 240lbs
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03-09-2020, 09:07 AM #447
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03-09-2020, 09:07 AM #448
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03-09-2020, 09:09 AM #449
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03-09-2020, 09:10 AM #450
If its been here thats a good sign because nothing has been too bad in all that time.
I haven't heard anything about out flu or pneumonia deaths being up that could be attributed to coroansvirus that wasnt diagnosed.
So it's either been here not doing s*it or it hasn't really until now
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