how do i get out of the friend zone (serious)

[BulkinBrahh]

help female misc

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Wont ever happen. Move on. You either meet a woman on Alpha male grounds or forever you'll be a lesser being in her eyes when evaluated as a mate. It's a permanent impression.

[Jaw-Knee]

It's a lengthy process.

1. Stop paying so much attention to this one chick. Go out, meet other girls, and start talking to them. Even if you don't want to smash them, this will make (or at least begin to make) the girl whose friend zone you're in jealous.

2. When you do hang out with this girl, talk about the other girls you're meeting and ask for her "advice." This will serve to further her jealousy while also covering up your intentions.

3. Emphasize your "friendship" with this girl. Joke and flirt with her, maybe even touch her a little bit, but drop in a line every now and then about how she's such a good friend.

4. Make a point of being busy. Whenever she calls you to set up some quality time, be unavailable most of the time. Ignore some of her calls. Make her wait for you to call back later. Keep most conversations fairly short.

5. When you do "have time" to hang out, try to get her alone. Keep up the subtle flirting and gauge her reaction. When it looks and feels like the time is right, try to step it up.

This is risky, and there's a good chance it won't work. Then again, if she cuts contact then all the girls you'll have met in Phase 1 will provide you with something to fall back on.

inb4 "A smart girl will see through this."

[Mighty Matt]

LOL, don't worry about it brah. There are millions of girls out there, why would you care about just one?

[mp.wife]

friendzone isn't always permanent. The hubbs maintained a permanent residence there for a number of years before he vacated. Still not sure how he pulled it off though. But there is always hope.

[Mighty Matt]

friendzone isn't always permanent. The hubbs maintained a permanent residence there for a number of years before he vacated. Still not sure how he pulled it off though. But there is always hope.

Sometimes friends make the perfect couple. Other times its awful.

[dunkonu9]

LOL, don't worry about it brah. There are millions of girls out there, why would you care about just one?

This is very true

friendzone isn't always permanent. The hubbs maintained a permanent residence there for a number of years before he vacated. Still not sure how he pulled it off though. But there is always hope.

You can always stick with it if your willing to watch and listen as she gives it away to a bunch of douche's while you suffer waiting on her.



Just go out have fun be yourself but let her know. I mean if you want to be more than friends let her know. If you are not willing to give up the friendship well then keep it to yourself and just be pissed you never said anything.

[Keltron]

Don't try to be her therapist.

[limniade]

The friend zone is a myth created by guys who think that being friends with a girl is the fastest ticket into her pants, and who just lie to her about being her friend in order to accomplish that.

If you don't want to be in the friend zone, ask her out on a date. She'll either say yes or no. Then you can move on.

[Jaw-Knee]

The friend zone is a myth created by guys who think that being friends with a girl is the fastest ticket into her pants, and who just lie to her about being her friend in order to accomplish that.

Nah, it exists.

[limniade]

No, it doesn't exist. Guys mistakenly think that if they follow some magical formula, the girl they like, who DOESN'T think of them that way, will suddenly start thinking of them that way. I don't know if this is because guys would screw any girl who showed interest in them, but girls don't work that way. They don't want to have sex with every guy they see.

What's really annoying is when guys try to be the girl's FRIEND and then act like it was all a big trick on her part that she didn't come to the light and go out with them, that being her friend was a total waste of the valuable time they could've spent having sex with someone.

So, what's the cure?

STOP LYING ABOUT YOUR INTENTIONS. Grow a pair. Ask for a date. If she says no, accept it. Move on to someone who would actually like you. Stop complaining about the fact that not every girl you want, wants you back. That is a biological impossibility. Find someone who actually DOES want you, and save your friendship efforts on people you actually care about, not on people you only want to have sex with.

[Jaw-Knee]

That's not what the friend zone is.

The friend zone is where girls put the guys they're (supposedly) not interested in. It has nothing to do with the way guys approach girls or the bull**** they feed girls in their attempts to get into girls' pants. The friend zone is simply a zone for "friends." Guys who befriend girls with (supposedly) no intentions of getting in their pants fall into the friend zone, too. It's also where girls send guys whose feelings are known but not mutual.

The friend zone exists.

[limniade]

Nobody "puts" you in the friend zone. You stay there voluntarily, hoping the girl changes her mind. And then you sit and whine about it when that doesn't happen, ignoring the blatantly obvious fact that she isn't interested in you.

And if you want OUT of the friend zone, you make the equally obvious and revolutionary step of asking the girl out on a date. She'll give you an answer one way or another. And then you'll be out of the friend zone. It's very simple.

If you want an answer to the question of, "How do I make someone romantically interested in me, who isn't romantically interested in me?" There's no answer to that. If you find one, market it and you'll be a billionaire. You can't force someone to like you, or trick them, or bribe them, or make them feel sorry for you, or guilt them into it. It doesn't work. It has never worked, except in romantic comedies. You can either be YOURSELF and hope that the person you like decides that that's someone she wants to be around, or you can deal with the fact that not everyone who you like will like you back, and find someone else to date.

That's it. Feel free to waste more time wondering about the friend zone, though, and thinking up big scientific formulas about how to get out of it. Still won't get you a date.

To sum up, it doesn't matter WHY she isn't interested in you. All that matters is that she's not. There isn't a damn thing you can do about it, because she's Just Not Into You(tm). Just accept it and move on.

[Jaw-Knee]

Yes, one can get put in the friend zone. If you ask a girl out and she says she likes you as a friend, BAM--you've been put in the friend zone.

Only by truly befriending a girl--meaning that you're not just hanging around to get in her pants--does one place himself in the friend zone. The rest of the time, it's within the female's discretion.

I don't have to "waste time" wondering about whether or not the friend zone exists because I, along with every other guy who's gotten put in the friend zone without putting himself in it, know it exists.

As for your "scientific formula" quip, I already mentioned that there's no guarantee a certain technique will work. The fact that such techniques do work speaks for itself, even if such techniques don't have a 100% success rate.

[limniade]

So when a girl isn't interested in you, you're "put in the friend zone".

Okay, the reason "the friend zone" doesn't exist is because as a guy, you seem to think that this is some kind of dating purgatory where you're handed a number and if you hang around long enough, it will be called and you'll be the next person in line for a date.

Instead, you could just hear the words, "No, I'm not interested in you that way," for their actual, literal meaning and move on to someone who IS interested in you. Instead of wondering why someone who tells you that you're just a friend, who treats you like just a friend, who doesn't show interest in you romantically, and who openly shows interest in other guys in your presence, doesn't ever reciprocate your interest? Wasn't the "No, I don't want to date you!" enough of a clue?

Seriously, what is ambiguous about being told that they're not interested? They're not interested. That's it, find someone else. There's no "zone". The only thing here is the guy's insistence on telling himself that she doesn't actually mean it. Stop lying to yourselves.

Let me ask you this question. Has there ever been a girl who showed interest in YOU, but in whom YOU were not interested? And did she ever succeed in hanging around long enough, being enough of your friend, listening to your problems about other women, doing you favors, etc. etc. for your feelings about her to actually change? How many times has that actually happened?

I can think how many times this has either worked FOR me or ON me: zero. I'd be willing to bet that most people could report a similarly dismal success rate.

[limniade]

And the other reason I find the concept of "the friend zone" laughable is that it assumes that all women are potential romantic/sexual partners who would all be interested in you under precisely the right conditions. It doesn't recognize the reality that not only will some women not be interested in you, but the vast majority of women won't be interested in you. That's just statistics. And no, you cannot strategize your way out of making yourself more appealing to a larger pool of women, because women are people, not math problems or board games.

What you *can* do is focus on the women who would actually consider you their type, and not waste your time on the women who aren't interested in you. I realize this is completely stupid advice considering 99% of guys only consider appearance and don't give a rat's ass about actual compatibility, but in reality, if you paid attention to actual compatibility and didn't try to waste time "getting out of the friend zone" instead of accepting a "no" when you hear it, you would probably have greater success.

But no, I know this won't happen. Instead, legions of guys will insist on ignoring it completely when a girl tells them she isn't interested. And then they'll spend months complaining about all the nice things they do for her, and how she's STILL not interested! Even though they were told the plain truth about it to their faces from the beginning. Oh well.

[Jaw-Knee]

The friend zone is not "dating purgatory." Though there are women who will resort to sleeping with otherwise undesirable "friends" to validate themselves, that's not what the friend zone is.

If you're put in the friend zone and you, yourself, don't take steps to get out of it, then you have no potential--none. That means no "number" and no waiting in line because you're in a different line entirely.

In saying that there is a friend zone, we're not ignoring the truth; rather, we are accepting it. You got friend-zoned? Chances are, then, that you're **** outta luck. The guys who ignore the friend zone, on the other hand--they're the ones lying to themselves. They're the ones who don't acknowledge that they're in a different line (or, if you're familiar with the Ladder Theory, on a different ladder).

To answer your question regarding my situation regarding female friends--no, that hasn't happened to me. The reason? I don't make emotional tampons out of people I know have feelings for me because it makes things awkward for me and uncomfortable/miserable for them.

[Jaw-Knee]

And the other reason I find the concept of "the friend zone" laughable is that it assumes that all women are potential romantic/sexual partners who would all be interested in you under precisely the right conditions. It doesn't recognize the reality that not only will some women not be interested in you, but the vast majority of women won't be interested in you. That's just statistics. And no, you cannot strategize your way out of making yourself more appealing to a larger pool of women, because women are people, not math problems or board games.

What you've said here is the friend zone. If a woman isn't interested in you, then you're in the friend zone (unless she doesn't like you in any way, shape or form). That's all it is.

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MS Paint FTW.

[mp.wife]

What you've said here is the friend zone. If a woman isn't interested in you, then you're in the friend zone (unless she doesn't like you in any way, shape or form). That's all it is.

EDIT:

MS Paint FTW.

Yep. Simple, easy, has nothing to do with whether or not said man is actually interested in you. All to do with how the girl looks at him. My hubbs for instance, asked me on several dates but I made it clear I was just interested in remaining friends. And so in the friendzone he stayed until one day, I becuse interested for whatver reason and moved him from friend zone to potential partner. His interest in me never changed, but my interest in him did, hence the relocation.

[Jaw-Knee]

Yep. Simple, easy, has nothing to do with whether or not said man is actually interested in you. All to do with how the girl looks at him. My hubbs for instance, asked me on several dates but I made it clear I was just interested in remaining friends. And so in the friendzone he stayed until one day, I becuse interested for whatver reason and moved him from friend zone to potential partner. His interest in me never changed, but my interest in him did, hence the relocation.

What did it?

[Fitness-Chic]

The friend zone is a myth created by guys who think that being friends with a girl is the fastest ticket into her pants, and who just lie to her about being her friend in order to accomplish that.

If you don't want to be in the friend zone, ask her out on a date. She'll either say yes or no. Then you can move on.

Nah, it exists.

No, it doesn't exist. Guys mistakenly think that if they follow some magical formula, the girl they like, who DOESN'T think of them that way, will suddenly start thinking of them that way. I don't know if this is because guys would screw any girl who showed interest in them, but girls don't work that way. They don't want to have sex with every guy they see.

What's really annoying is when guys try to be the girl's FRIEND and then act like it was all a big trick on her part that she didn't come to the light and go out with them, that being her friend was a total waste of the valuable time they could've spent having sex with someone.

So, what's the cure?

STOP LYING ABOUT YOUR INTENTIONS. Grow a pair. Ask for a date. If she says no, accept it. Move on to someone who would actually like you. Stop complaining about the fact that not every girl you want, wants you back. That is a biological impossibility. Find someone who actually DOES want you, and save your friendship efforts on people you actually care about, not on people you only want to have sex with.

That's not what the friend zone is.

The friend zone is where girls put the guys they're (supposedly) not interested in. It has nothing to do with the way guys approach girls or the bull**** they feed girls in their attempts to get into girls' pants. The friend zone is simply a zone for "friends." Guys who befriend girls with (supposedly) no intentions of getting in their pants fall into the friend zone, too. It's also where girls send guys whose feelings are known but not mutual.

The friend zone exists.

Yay........You two are fun. Keep Um coming. lol

[mp.wife]

What did it?

I have no earthly idea what it was exactly. I was having serious problems with my son's father not knowing what the hell he wanted and jerking me and my boy around for about 2 years at that point, he was dealing with drama when his wife got pregnant by someone else while he was in Korea. We were leaning pretty heavily on each other for support since he was my best friend. I guess I had to date a giant ******* to appreciate what a fantastic guy my hubby really is. Never looked back after that.

[The_Prospect]

you can't man.

granted, i think what works best is to just be like...."lets make out." It works....it does.

[Maine]

The friend zone is a myth created by guys who think that being friends with a girl is the fastest ticket into her pants, and who just lie to her about being her friend in order to accomplish that.

If you don't want to be in the friend zone, ask her out on a date. She'll either say yes or no. Then you can move on.

You've completely mistaken what the "friend zone" is. A friend zone is when a guy asks a girl out on a date and she says "oh, sorry, i only see you as a friend, i would love to go out with you on a date but am too scared it would ruin our friendship...oh there is this one great guy though who is really awesome, his dick is huge...".

[Fitness-Chic]

You've completely mistaken what the "friend zone" is. A friend zone is when a guy asks a girl out on a date and she says "oh, sorry, i only see you as a friend, i would love to go out with you on a date but am too scared it would ruin our friendship...oh there is this one great guy though who is really awesome, his dick is huge...".

Damn....BURN.

help female misc

OP sucks at maintaining his thread.

I think your just stuck in the friend zone. Ehhh... **** happens move on to the next.

[tryn2getstrong]

I have no earthly idea what it was exactly. I was having serious problems with my son's father not knowing what the hell he wanted and jerking me and my boy around for about 2 years at that point, he was dealing with drama when his wife got pregnant by someone else while he was in Korea. We were leaning pretty heavily on each other for support since he was my best friend. I guess I had to date a giant ******* to appreciate what a fantastic guy my hubby really is. Never looked back after that.

You have just answered the question. If you want out of the friend zone introduce to the best looking guys who are terrible to women. Do it long enough and subtle enough and you've got a chance.

[MetalMommy]

yea once your in that zone...

example. back in the military lamar was my best friend...in the beginning we were party friends...every weekend me him and another male friend of mine went out , got drunka s hell, made sure we all got home....we were an inseperable 3sum...not 3sum like that perves lol.

now the other guy hit on me a few times and i told him ehh...it just wont work...let it go...it wasnt anything..me and lamar stayed best of friends for awhile..we go sent to our 2nd duty station together so were like holy **** hell yea and we were in the same platoon as well, we requested to be on the same section in the platoon , we talked about EVERYTHING. he heled me pick out clothes...gave me advice...i did the same...we ran together, drank together, borrowed porn from one another! lol yea seriously...he was by far in the brother zone for me....a lot of ppl thought we were together cause eventually the 3sum frined thing broke and it was me and lamar everywhere....before my now husband asked me out, he asked lamar if it was ok because he wasnt sure if were dating....

anyways lamar did devlop feelings for me (i had no idea) he told someone i was the perfect woman for hiim bla bla....he never approached me with it , but i heard it from everyone and after awhiel i started to see it...he was my best friend, trusted him with my life.....i never would of even given him one date, he was just like my brother to me.....a group of us went to a club once and i was dancing ...we were all wasted, the dance floor was packed and i turned around and he was right up on me and i was like omg nasty my brother is right up on me dancing...i had to get away from it...it feltl ike incest to me. meaning of teh story...dont get brotherly


f your just friends....you might be able to advance it...if your in the brotherly friend zone like lamar was.....no chance.

[tryn2getstrong]

In all seriousness this girl and I were friends for about 3 years in college. Went out one night(I thought as friends)and badda bing badda boom, we're sleeping together. Then we had a great relationship until I screwed it up.

It can happen, but it's rare.

[MetalMommy]

alpha male = hotness
go with that

[Tiffany_P]

Start dating someone else. She has to see you as a sexual being. Then, get her drunk.

Worked for my husband