I have been training for 22 years, mostly on a permanent bulk due to being naturally skinny. I have gotten up to 180-200 lbs, and competed in powerlifting meets as a 181.
This past year I decided it was time to stop being fat; the permanent bulk has come to an end.
I am attaching some photos of the journey. You can find two photos of my 'bulked' condition, and some photos of how I look today. I am now 160 lbs and I stand 5'8. My upper arms measure 16.25, my waist is 32 and my chest is 43. Quads are 23. I'm 38 years old and now in the best shape of my life. I can still bench press 305 (1.9 times bodyweight). I am lifetime NATTY.
Goals for now are to maintain my bodyweight while slowly continue toward recomp (build muscle and lose fat).
Just wanted to share my progress with everyone. Any comments or thoughts are welcomed. Thanks!
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11-11-2020, 10:19 AM #1
4 Month Transformation: from bulked to cut (pics)
Last edited by Episteme; 11-11-2020 at 10:28 AM.
"Slow and steady wins the race."
Best competition lift: Bench Press, 300 lbs.@ 174 (RAW)
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11-11-2020, 10:29 AM #2
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11-11-2020, 10:34 AM #3
Thanks very much for the encouragement and comments.
Seems like my biceps peaks became more prominent as I cut bodyfat.
One important lesson I learned is that being a natty bodybuilder means I have to give up the dream of being 'big' in the sense of weight on the scale. A lean 160 looks *much* better than a flabby 180. JMO
Thanks again!"Slow and steady wins the race."
Best competition lift: Bench Press, 300 lbs.@ 174 (RAW)
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11-11-2020, 11:08 AM #4
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11-11-2020, 01:01 PM #7
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11-11-2020, 01:03 PM #8
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11-11-2020, 01:06 PM #9
Thanks very much.
I admit that I appear much bigger than 160, and I'm a little dismayed that I had to get down to such a low bodyweight to begin to call myself reasonably lean. I have a very light bone structure (6.5 inch wrists), and I'm not terribly tall (5'8). I'm happy that my arms managed to stay above 16 inches, and I don't want them to go below that."Slow and steady wins the race."
Best competition lift: Bench Press, 300 lbs.@ 174 (RAW)
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11-11-2020, 05:30 PM #10
Great work man!!
Yeah, so many guys really underestimate just how much actual pounds you need to lose to get lean.
They also don't understand that you will look far more muscular at a lower bodyweight if the muscle is there.
Congrats on the progress2017 OCB Men's Physique Open 4th place
17 MP Novice 4th
18 MP Novice 5th
18 MP 40+ 3rd
18 MP Open 5'10" & under 1st
18 MP 40+ 1st & Overall..Pro Card Won
19 Classic Phys Open 3rd
19 CP 40+ 3rd
19 BB open 3rd
19 BB 40+ 1st..2nd Pro Card
19 BB 40+1st..50+1st...3rd Pro Card
21 BB 40+1st..50+1st..Open 5th..4th Card
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11-11-2020, 06:53 PM #11
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11-11-2020, 07:13 PM #12
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11-12-2020, 07:21 AM #13
Fantastic stuff!!!
As one who does not intend to bodybuild, I can empathize with the 'permanent bulk' motivation, but like everyone has said (and yourself) you do look much healthier now!!
Seems obvious, but you could continue to compete in powerlifting and with a solid bench like that at your new weight... you'd kick ass in Masters.
Recomp good. If you want to bodybuild…. seems like you're doing great - even if it's only for your living room/bedroom.It's never too late!
5'6", 215
Age: 51
Results:
2/26/22 USPA PNW drug tested championships: 501/325/540/1366 @ 209lb
11/7/21 IPL drug tested world championships: 463/319/529/1311 @ 205lb
6/20/21 USPA Western drug tested regionals: DQ (bombed squats) @ 192lb
2/27/21 USPA PNW drug tested championships: 468/308/501/1278 @ 202lb
10/10/2020 USPA FS meet: 407/303/474/1185 @ 212lb
Gym PRs:
529/336/555
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11-12-2020, 08:05 AM #14
Thanks for the comments. (I'm guessing you're a PhD; me too. Bioethics)
I plan to continue to compete (now in the 165 class), and I'm interested to see how well I would do in the Masters, lifetime natural category. I've looked at some records across the federations, and it seems I'm (finally) nationally competitive. It's funny that when I competed in open class, guys my age were doing *much* more than me. But now that I'm pushing 40, seems like I'm doing comparatively better even though my numbers are only a little better. Age matters.
I thought about bodybuilding shows, but to be honest, I'm not interested in turning myself into a shredded skeleton. I mean no offense to any natty bodybuilders (many of them look awesome), but the current standards of getting striated glutes in drug-free shows just doesn't make much sense to me. I like the condition that guys like John Grimek, Clancy Ross, George Eiferman, Tommy Kono, and James Park were in back in the 40's and 50's. They were big, reasonably lean, and strong.
Just my own thoughts on bodybuilding."Slow and steady wins the race."
Best competition lift: Bench Press, 300 lbs.@ 174 (RAW)
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11-12-2020, 08:07 AM #15
Good work. Fat/obese dudes always look the best when they cut down cause they’ve been holding a chit load of muscle
Compared to a 18% body fat guy who decides to cut, an obese guy who cuts will have way more of an advantage and way more muscle when he’s shredded
Just from what I’ve seen in the fitness world, I seen this in a lot of fat dude transformations. Some lookin juicy asf but it’s just cause they were formally fat and holding more muscle than a normal guy
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11-12-2020, 08:33 AM #16
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11-12-2020, 08:46 AM #17
Thanks!
The one thing I'm finding is that at my current body composition, I'm having to eat *more* to maintain my bodyweight, than what it took to get here. My guess is that my increased lbm relative to my weight has increased my body's calorie-burning efficiency. Staying lean seems to be not the problem right now; it's keeping my weight where it's at without losing more weight."Slow and steady wins the race."
Best competition lift: Bench Press, 300 lbs.@ 174 (RAW)
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11-12-2020, 09:43 AM #18
PhD Clinical Psychology
You've taken care of yourself for a long time... I guess many competing open just stop, maybe injuries … not sure. I know that I broke my state records in my age/weight category in my first meet, and the USPA drug-free records aren't far off and seem eminently obtainable... whereas the open records would have been pretty tough for me even if I didn't get injured in my 30s.
Joo can doo eet! Competing will motivate you and it sounds like you'll have some cool records too!
Agree, hardcore competing seems to do strange things to bodies/minds, but some of the folks on here have done some amazing things with their bodies - including you!
Good luck!It's never too late!
5'6", 215
Age: 51
Results:
2/26/22 USPA PNW drug tested championships: 501/325/540/1366 @ 209lb
11/7/21 IPL drug tested world championships: 463/319/529/1311 @ 205lb
6/20/21 USPA Western drug tested regionals: DQ (bombed squats) @ 192lb
2/27/21 USPA PNW drug tested championships: 468/308/501/1278 @ 202lb
10/10/2020 USPA FS meet: 407/303/474/1185 @ 212lb
Gym PRs:
529/336/555
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11-12-2020, 10:33 AM #19
Agreed, I suspect injuries (especially among the top lifters) force many folks to give up powerlifting in their late 20s and early 30's. I've been fortunate to have never suffered any serious lifting related injuries in 22 years. My most serious injuries were the result of competitive gymnastics in my teen years (major shoulder surgery).
Thanks again for the encouragement and advice. Best of luck with your pursuit of records. Maybe we'll cross paths in the future meets."Slow and steady wins the race."
Best competition lift: Bench Press, 300 lbs.@ 174 (RAW)
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11-12-2020, 06:42 PM #20
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11-14-2020, 04:00 PM #27
Thanks very much. You're just about right on the mark.
4.5 months, about 25 lbs. lost total. I didn't count calories, but I kept a good bead on carbs and protein. The first couple of months were very strict, and I tried to keep carbs below 100 on non-training days. Protein is kept at 250-300 a day.
I do intermittent fasting (it just plain works for me), and have been doing it for nearly a year. I eat within a 6-8 hour window, and I time my training within that window.
Now that I'm 160 lbs, and reasonably lean, my carbs have been raised to maintain weight. I am still seeing gradual improvements in composition while maintaining weight. I squat twice per week, one day being a 20 rep breathing squat superset with the pullover. That really ramps up the metabolism. I Bench Press once per week, overhead press once per week, and throw in weighted chins and two or three accessory movements (including abs). Cardio is 20 mins 4 times per week on a treadmill, a mile at a 20 min. pace.
This is super easy and sustainable."Slow and steady wins the race."
Best competition lift: Bench Press, 300 lbs.@ 174 (RAW)
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11-14-2020, 04:02 PM #28
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11-15-2020, 07:07 AM #29
How are you sure that it's intermittent fasting doing most of the magic that "just plain work for me" and not your killer workout/squatting/diet?
I may just back into the intermittent fasting fray.
So you are not counting calories at all? Just eating mostly protein while keeping carbs below 100 grams? what about your fats..Seems you've have to keep fats relatively low as well I find if do that my libido takes a major hit..
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11-15-2020, 03:19 PM #30
I've been training very hard and consistently for 22 years (even trained at local gyms during my honeymoon in HI). I had a very solid base of size and strength before I did this cutting period. (I had benched over 335 lbs, had upper arms that measured over 17.5 inches cold), so everyone's results will vary depending on where you start from.
Here's a look at my eating, in more detail:
1) first meal at 3:00pm- 10 ounces of egg whites, 25 grams of micellar casein, 50 grams of whey, with leucine, glutamine, creatine, arginine. One banana. 2) Dinner at 5-6pm: aim for 50 grams of animal protein, a carb (potato, rice, oatmeal, and veggies). usually more egg whites. 3) pre workout and intra- clusterdextrin with aminos. Post workout- 50 grams micellar casein. 4) before bed: 6 whole eggs, oatmeal, banana, and more egg whites and whey.
As you can see, fats are not kept that low. Just controlling for junk food (none of it) and making sure protein is HIGH).
YMMV. good luck
Lifting is 3 times a week. squat, bench and deadlift each once a week, combined with accessory movements (chin ups, overhead press, etc). It's really quite minimalist but brutally hard."Slow and steady wins the race."
Best competition lift: Bench Press, 300 lbs.@ 174 (RAW)
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