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    Originally Posted by RIKTER View Post
    As someone who actually wrestled in school, I honestly have no idea how college age male wrestlers, allowed, themselves to be molested?? I honestly can not fathom how it could happen, especially to so many top tier male athletes who know how to handle themselves??

    With that said, Jim touched my pee pee.
    A lot of grapplers are gay or bisexual. The ones that aren't are very used to being touched, especially from an authoritative figure. Not that it matters.

    Don't victim shame. To save a punk like Jordan.

    There's no outrage because Republicans like the fact that he's a super *******.

    He's good at being an *******.

    He's not good at proving points, however...Benghazi. Really?

    Disingenuous POS.
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    Originally Posted by RIKTER View Post
    As someone who actually wrestled in school, I honestly have no idea how college age male wrestlers, allowed, themselves to be molested?? I honestly can not fathom how it could happen, especially to so many top tier male athletes who know how to handle themselves??

    With that said, Jim touched my pee pee.
    Did you keep up grappling btw? Take up Judo or bjj?
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    Epstein? You mean Trump's buddy for 15+ years? You mean the Epstein who was let off by Trump's Labor Secretary Acosta?

    That Epstein?
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    If Jordan knew what was going on and didn't do anything about it, then he is a piece of chit. Hard to convict him on one memory from one guy of one sentence from decades ago and another guy saying "Well he must have known about it". That doesn't cut it for evidence.
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    Originally Posted by RIKTER View Post
    As someone who actually wrestled in school, I honestly have no idea how college age male wrestlers, allowed, themselves to be molested?? I honestly can not fathom how it could happen, especially to so many top tier male athletes who know how to handle themselves??

    With that said, Jim touched my pee pee.
    Allowed themselves to be molested? You serious with this? Read more about victim shame.
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    So...this allegedly happened in 1994. And there's no one else who knows anything about it.

    I see.
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    Originally Posted by ImpressiveGainz View Post
    So...this allegedly happened in 1994. And there's no one else who knows anything about it.

    I see.
    Everyone knows about it, but are too tired to complain because they're too busy worrying that Trump is going to start a race war or end NATO.

    It was all in the news.

    Then Trump started started saying a bunch of stupid stuff and everyone was like wut?!
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    Allowed themselves to be molested? You serious with this? Read more about victim shame.
    We aren't talking about 14 year old boys succumbing to a head coach who is an authority figure, etc, or woman in general. Those are different things altogether. These are grown ass collegiate level wrestlers. A physically interior male(assuming the doc was more times than not) can not molest/grope a physically superior male without that person allowing it, even after the fact.

    I just have a different mind set here and because a weaker mans mindset might be different, doesn't make me wrong.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Did you keep up grappling btw? Take up Judo or bjj?
    I did some judo for a while because throwing was my specialty as a wrestler, as I was never very good on the ground, but I just wasn't crazy about the gi. The way some of the more experienced guys could use that thing as a weapon was impressive. It was part of them like their limbs lol
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    Originally Posted by RIKTER View Post
    We aren't talking about 14 year old boys succumbing to a head coach who is an authority figure, etc, or woman in general. Those are different things altogether. These are grown ass collegiate level wrestlers. A physically interior male(assuming the doc was more times than not) can not molest/grope a physically superior male without that person allowing it, even after the fact.

    I just have a different mind set here and because a weaker mans mindset might be different, doesn't make me wrong.
    You're just asserting that it didn't happen and it obviously did.

    Reevaluate.
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    Originally Posted by RIKTER View Post
    I did some judo for a while because throwing was my specialty as a wrestler, as I was never very good on the ground, but I just wasn't crazy about the gi. The way some of the more experienced guys could use that thing as a weapon was impressive. It was part of them like their limbs lol
    Gi/clothes are a big part...leverage point and high skill.

    There is more no gi jiu-jitsu available now for adults...like freestyle plus arm bars and chokes. Even 40+ guys still doing it...lots of fun.

    I agree the throw is the fun.

    Big big throw whaaap!!!!!

    But I did bjj for a while to blue anyway and learned to like it. The rules make you 100% more careful about big throws because if you're wrong you're dead
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    You're just asserting that it didn't happen and it obviously did.

    Reevaluate.
    I sympathize with Rikter because when I was playing sports in college no way in hell would a doctor molest me.

    But like you said, somehow, someway, this did indeed happen.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    You're just asserting that it didn't happen and it obviously did.

    Reevaluate.
    Im not saying it didn't happen.
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    Today: Jim Jordan appointed to Intel Committee to participate in public impeachment hearings

    Also Today: Media and their bird brained lackeys trying to slander Jim Jordan

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    Today: Jim Jordan appointed to Intel Committee to participate in public impeachment hearings

    Also Today: Media and their bird brained lackeys trying to slander Jim Jordan

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    How is this clown still in Congress?


    A professional referee says in a lawsuit filed Thursday that disgraced doctor Richard Strauss masturbated in front of him in a shower after a wrestling match at Ohio State University, and he reported the encounter directly to Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, who was then the assistant coach.

    “Yeah, that’s Strauss,” Jordan and then-head coach Russ Hellickson replied, according to the lawsuit, when the referee, identified in court papers as John Doe 42, told them about the incident. The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Ohio, implies that Jordan's response to the incident, which the referee said happened in 1994, was essentially a shrug.

    John Doe 42 is the second person to say he told Jordan directly about either being approached or molested by Strauss, who was found by independent investigators to have sexually abused 177 male students over two decades.



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    Didn't even know about this. Fukking horrible.

    Not a religious person but in times like these i hope the perpetrator and those who helped cover it up burn in a fiery hell for eternity.
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    Didn't even know about this. Fukking horrible.

    Not a religious person but in times like these i hope the perpetrator and those who helped cover it up burn in a fiery hell for eternity.
    So the doctor did it and JJ was the coach for a decade. What are the odds no one talked to him about it?

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    That does not sound like a response a real person would say "derp thats just him". Dont know enough about the case but very suspicious how this is news right when he is put on a committee. See libs this is what happens when you constantly peddle in bull**** like Russia, supreme court etc. Nobody believes you on anything anymore. As kids we were taught The Little Boy Who Cried Wolf. Guess you all missed that lesson.
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    Originally Posted by JihadMeAtHello View Post
    That does not sound like a response a real person would say "derp thats just him". Dont know enough about the case but very suspicious how this is news right when he is put on a committee. See libs this is what happens when you constantly peddle in bull**** like Russia, supreme court etc. Nobody believes you on anything anymore. As kids we were taught The Little Boy Who Cried Wolf. Guess you all missed that lesson.
    ? The story's been out forever. JJ denied ever being told about it. So the coach who let over a hundred kids get molested under his watch is now in Congress.

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    I just wanted to stop in and say Sillie, stop calling them ****ing kids. They are adults, and very physically strong adults most likely jocks throughout all of high school.
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    I just wanted to stop in and say Sillie, stop calling them ****ing kids. They are adults, and very physically strong adults most likely jocks throughout all of high school.
    Ok, the doctor abused over a hundred 17-22 year olds under JJs nose.

    Feel better?
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    Everyone knows about it, but are too tired to complain because they're too busy worrying that Trump is going to start a race war or end NATO.

    It was all in the news.

    Then Trump started started saying a bunch of stupid stuff and everyone was like wut?!
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    We entrust 18 year olds to jump out of planes with guns to kill our enemies, but need to remind 22 year olds that the doc isn't supposed to jerk you off.
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    We entrust 18 year olds to jump out of planes with guns to kill our enemies, but need to remind 22 year olds that the doc isn't supposed to jerk you off.
    Wow what a pathetic point of view. I’m embarrassed for you.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Wow what a pathetic point of view. I’m embarrassed for you.
    Seems very personal to you. It's not your fault that it felt good.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    How is this clown still in Congress?


    A professional referee says in a lawsuit filed Thursday that disgraced doctor Richard Strauss masturbated in front of him in a shower after a wrestling match at Ohio State University, and he reported the encounter directly to Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, who was then the assistant coach.

    “Yeah, that’s Strauss,” Jordan and then-head coach Russ Hellickson replied, according to the lawsuit, when the referee, identified in court papers as John Doe 42, told them about the incident. The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Ohio, implies that Jordan's response to the incident, which the referee said happened in 1994, was essentially a shrug.

    John Doe 42 is the second person to say he told Jordan directly about either being approached or molested by Strauss, who was found by independent investigators to have sexually abused 177 male students over two decades.



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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    We entrust 18 year olds to jump out of planes with guns to kill our enemies, but need to remind 22 year olds that the doc isn't supposed to jerk you off.
    We don't trust them enough to drink. Nor do i trust most 18 year olds to tie their boots properly. Not really an argument brah.

    Not to mention the brain is still developing well in to your 20s. Not to mention plenty of young men have let abuse happen for fear of retribution. Not to mention... the list goes fukking on and on.
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    Originally Posted by ImpressiveGainz View Post
    ..? Who is everyone?
    It was in the news.

    I mean...

    I did not make that up lol.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    We don't trust them enough to drink. Nor do i trust most 18 year olds to tie their boots properly. Not really an argument brah.

    Not to mention the brain is still developing well in to your 20s. Not to mention plenty of young men have let abuse happen for fear of retribution. Not to mention... the list goes fukking on and on.
    I do agree that 18 year old are pretty stupid, and if the military weren't using soldier for cannon fodder, they would probably raise the age to join to 21.

    As far as abuse regarding adults, It's hard for me to understand how someone who is an adult, especially at 22, doesn't have the mental faculties to prevent himself from being touched. What's the retribution? Threat of violence? Getting thrown off the wrestling team? My post was a bit tongue and cheek, but I do have a hard time wrapping my head the idea of grown men not resisting abuse.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Ok, the doctor abused over a hundred 17-22 year olds under JJs nose.

    Feel better?
    Ok Jim Jordan worked with a guy who molested kids. He is probably complicit.

    That said, he didn't abuse them.

    Please explain why we're smearing JJ again? Surely it's not because he's defending Republicans while the Dem impeachment is happening.

    I mean, it's not like you were railing against JJ for he last two years..
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