Any brahs considering converting to Islam?

[Imaneya]

So you're planning on being Muslim but still immersed in Western culture? That sounds like the worst of both worlds.

It's not.

The 2 are not compatible. A lot of muslims live in the west through pure cope and mental gymnastics.

If you want to convert to islam, be congruent and follow through by living in a muslim society, there are plenty out there. Some are also not complete chitholes. Migrating after converting would actually be admirable, and not reek of cognitive dissonance.

[aket221]

What Christian countries, be completely specific. Back when the US was truly Christian there was minimal to none Islamic immigration. The UK where I'm from colonised many Muslim nations including India and then desperately required and requested their immigration post World War 2 due to severe man-power shortage in the factories and such. Lastly, barring the evangelical movement in the US, all Western countries are utterly secular. Churches are empty. This is especially true in the UK where Churches are being sold by the dozen monthly and turned in Mcdonalds and Burger Kings. Speak to an Englishman about Christ or the Church and he will legit look at you funny. 90% of people in the entirety of the UK (save Ireland) only go to Church for weddings and funerals. Immigration is a complex issue but one thing we can confidently say is no one has moved to any "Christian" countries. No one in Pakistan or Bangladesh is trying to immigrate to Greece, Poland or Malta. Sit down, don't get excited.

[mk2kh]

Go for it OP

[InVentive44]

Allahu akbar allahu akbar
Allahu akbar allahu akbar
Ash-hadu anla ilaha illah Allah

[GordonXXX]

“Islam is a cult and not a religion. Christianity and Judaism are based on love, whereas Islam is based on ‘kill the infidel,’ a thing of evil.” “Christians and Jews can have a mutual respect for each other to create a civil society. As you know, Islam cannot do that. Therefore we cannot ever let Islam become a large part of our society. Muslims are naturally my (our) enemy due to their deep antagonism and bias against non-Muslims.” - Joe Ricketts

[aket221]

Dunno, what’s their position on miscing ?

It's a minor sin due to wasting time and the adult nature of the posts and the promotion of promiscuous outside of wedlock sex and pornography. Not to mention, both the male and female posters dressing in a naked fashion particularly the women. As a Muslim a commercial gym would be an almost impossible place to defend. The women are half naked (we're not dumb, we know you wear what you wear due to brutally low self esteems not because of "comfort" LMAO) and Muslims are encouraged to stay well away from any kind of sexual temptation. Lowering your gaze in a gym would essentially mean staring at the floor the entire time which wouldn't result in any kind of meaningful workout.

[miscerForLulz]

“Islam is a cult and not a religion. Christianity and Judaism are based on love, whereas Islam is based on ‘kill the infidel,’ a thing of evil.” “Christians and Jews can have a mutual respect for each other to create a civil society. As you know, Islam cannot do that. Therefore we cannot ever let Islam become a large part of our society. Muslims are naturally my (our) enemy due to their deep antagonism and bias against non-Muslims.” - Joe Ricketts

Kinda funny how Jews and Muslims believe God is one and Christans and Muslims believe in Jesus (although Christians think he's God while Muslims think he's a Prophet)...wtf are you on about? Instead the Quran clearly says

Say, "We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him."

Muslim believe in Jesus (as a Prophet) who was one of the mighty messenger. He was born of a miraculous birth (without a father) which many day Christians do not believe in. They believe he is the Messiah and will return at the end of times. They believe he did many great works and brought life back from the dead, healed the blind and leper, all through God's permission. The most honored woman in Islam throughout history is indeed an Israelite...the mother of Jesus, Mary.

[aket221]

“Islam is a cult and not a religion. Christianity and Judaism are based on love, whereas Islam is based on ‘kill the infidel,’ a thing of evil.” “Christians and Jews can have a mutual respect for each other to create a civil society. As you know, Islam cannot do that. Therefore we cannot ever let Islam become a large part of our society. Muslims are naturally my (our) enemy due to their deep antagonism and bias against non-Muslims.” - Joe Ricketts

Bro when you make wild sweeping statements as if they're real you need to back them up with proof and evidence. Where is the evidence that Islam says "kill the infidel"? Which Chaper, Verse, Hadith? Anything? Muhammed (PBUH) lived amongst Jews and Christians peacefully during the majority of his life. With such stupidity I don't even know where to begin. Di you use the same logic systems in other parts of your life? If so your life must be an absolute wreck and abomination. Did you ever think to read the Qu'ran (an English translation) and look for these verses? It's quite an alarming assertion you're putting on the entire world view of 1.8-2 billion people. Think you ape. Think.

[Tanerian]

Thinking? Millions convert a year. By 2300 it will the largest religion on earth with around 3 Billion people (although its numbers already beat any sub-sect of Christianity). You think all these 3 billion are utterly retarded?

Uh..

Yes?

If someone is still religious in 2300, they are straight retarded.

[allnattybro92]

White muslim convert here

Convert for God almighty not for women

believe in one all powerful God/being who created us and has no partners or children

His name is Allah ,he is Yahweh of the Old Testament and has many names

Believe in Allahs angels ( jibreel (Gabriel) mikael(Michael) israfeel(Raphael) and theres countless more

Believe in Allahs prophets

Adam,Noah (nuh),Jacob(Yakub) ,John the Baptist (yahyah) ,Jesus(Eesah),jethro ,Job
(Ayub) ,Moses(Musa) ,Solomon(Sulaymaniyah) king David(Dawns) and the final Prophet Muhammed peace be upon them all

U must believe in destiny and that Gods decree is final in anything that happens to you in life . You must believe in the virgin birth of Jesus and that Jesus was only a prophet and not God or the son of God .
The Quran has a full chapter dedicated to the Virgin Mary and she is the seen as like the mother of believers in Islam .

U Must believe that the bible and torah came from God almighty and that the Quran is the final revelation from him that cannot be changed .
U Must be believe in second coming of Jesus (pbuh) and Judgement day .

Allah is the most merciful and loves when his servant turns to him in repentance and obedience ,

The devil is real and he is going to hell and his plan is to take as many as us humans down with him .

The garden Of Eden is what we muslims call Jannah( heaven ) the eternal paradise for the believer who sticks by the laws of God
.its where Adam and Eve came from .

You must believe this life is a testing ground , our sole purpose of existing is to worship and to be tested and love him . And the more you believe and have faith the harder you will be tested by God and in return he will raise you in ranks in paradise ( heaven has levels) the more suffering a believer goes through in life and sticks to his religion the more he will Be rewarded in the after life same with the more good deeds . Even Gods prophets were severely tested .

Islam is the true religion and the complete way of life

Paradise is real and it’s eternal
And it’s up in the heavens (space)

God knows everything what we think and do and you will start to see signs when you look for them

For example , do u ever see a random YouTube video that pops up in the youtube algorithm that is related to your current problem in life ? Even tho didn’t search it at all? That’s God almighty trying to help u srs

Now you will see it all the time
Now that you are aware
Its honestly amazing ,

Islam is misunderstood its a beautiful religion when practiced correctly

Lying,backbiting,adultery,gambling ,alcohol , racism and looking down on other people wether they are muslim or non muslim is strictly forbidden in Islam

I wish you all peace and blessing and hope you all find the true meaning of life

Which is Submitting to our loving creator who we will one day meet

The all hearing the all seeing the king of kings , the master of science
The architect of the universe
The lord of the worlds
Allahu Akbar

God is the greatest

[nielk]

Converting to Islam =/= Moving to another nation

Its kind of the same in judaism. If you convert you are jewish, but you will always be a convert in other jewish people's eyes. just saying.

[allnattybro92]

Its kind of the same in judaism. If you convert you are jewish, but you will always be a convert in other jewish people's eyes. just saying.

The first muslims were converts

Islam is for all races we don’t have “chosen” races

God doesn’t care about our colour but our heart intention

I was the only white guy in the mosque before lockdown and never did I once feel out of place srs

One time I prayed with a black guy an Arab and a Pakistani side side by side ,
All diffrent colours but we are all muslim .

Racism is throwned upon in Islam srs there is no “aryan race”” chosen jewish people” or black Hebrew Israelites in Islam
.
The actual Meaning of the word muslim is one who submits to God.
But there is still some racists just like in every other religion but that has nothing to do with God almighty, jus because some born muslim might of been racist to me doesn’t mean Islam is against white people . I’m white muslim Islam is still my religion regardless of race/ racism .

And if anyone discriminates or hurts a person who God loves
Wether they are muslim or non muslim

then God almighty himself declares war on that person
Srs

In Islam sinners will be punished by God wether muslims or non muslim but God will always forgive us if you seek his repentance and make effort to obey him .
.
Any one who believes in God and does good deeds has a fighting chance in The afterlife.
God is loving gentle and kind but if you take advantage of his beautiful nature then he will bring punishment and rightfully so.
, we should never abuse the lords kindness

God does not want to harm his creation
He loves us and watches out for us.
No one will ever love you or me like God almighty
Not even our own mothers.
Illness and disease isn’t a sign of punishment though it can be
. Sometimes the king inflicts a calamity in our lives to get our attention because he refuses to lose us to the devil .

You will realise at some point in life that the only one who truly cares about u is God almighty .

All our family and siblings have a breaking point were they could cut all contact with us if we done something terrible
.But God would never abandon a sinful slave as long as the slave always comes back to his king

God is truly merciful words can’t describe the lords beautiful nature .

[Jessejame5]

islam massively benefits beta males

culture sanctioned control of females, same as chad has in the west but its not forced under penalty of stoning

[wikipediafile]

Jfl at worshipping a demigod who married a 5yo when he was 56yo.

Money over bitches - Tupac

Money over Mohammed - wikipediafile

[BetaAsPhuck]

Racism is throwned upon in Islam srs there is no “aryan race”” chosen jewish people” or black Hebrew Israelites in Islam

I think you and I both know that there is racial hierarchies and ethnic tribalism rife within Islam.

There are mosques exclusively built to cater to a specific ethnic or racial group... Some people may not think there is anything wrong with that, but they will do things like literally importing imams from foreign countries, to exclusively speak in a foreign language. There practices are designed to exclude.

Interethnic and interracial marriage is frowned upon.

If you are being honest, you would not say that ethnic tribalism and exclusion is not a big problem in Islam.

When I was a convert it was a very common complaint from convert muslims (of all races) they spoke about the ethnic and racial tribalism in Islam. I noticed the muslims who were born into the religion often simply didn't want to hear it or discuss it.

One white due I knew was almost in tears telling us why he no longer went to the local mosques (dude walked around in Sunnah attire with a beard and headcovering), because the Desi muslims would tell him to dump his wife (who was a muslim) literally because she was black. One Imam I knew who was white had a black wife who was also studying Islam formally, he outright told me that her Desi classmates literally did not speak to her until she got top grades and they wanted to study with her. On black muslim I knew had someone say to him - in the mosque - "so you n-words do care about God". I was talking to a woman about marriage at the time, then she confessed to me that her father would accept me but her mother was racist and I would have to 'fight to get her approval', she cried but I outright said I'm not willing to do that - phuck that.

A White Imam told me that he's travelled around the world and around the nation, and it's the same with the Arabs, Desi, and African muslims. The same ethnic and racial tribalism. (He's still a muslim.)

Relevant video...




(Note: White converts are treated the best by muslims, IME and the experiences of others I've spoken to, including born muslilms.)


You're painting Islam with rose tinted glasses, IMO.

[allnattybro92]

I think you and I both know that there is racial hierarchies and ethnic tribalism rife within Islam.

There are mosques exclusively built to cater to a specific ethnic or racial group... Some people may not think there is anything wrong with that, but they will do things like literally importing imams from foreign countries, to exclusively speak in a foreign language. There practices are designed to exclude.

Interethnic and interracial marriage is frowned upon.

If you are being honest, you would not say that ethnic tribalism and exclusion is not a big problem in Islam.

When I was a convert it was a very common complaint from convert muslims (of all races) they spoke about the ethnic and racial tribalism in Islam. I noticed the muslims who were born into the religion often simply didn't want to hear it or discuss it.

One white due I knew was almost in tears telling us why he no longer went to the local mosques (dude walked around in Sunnah attire with a beard and headcovering), because the Desi muslims would tell him to dump his wife (who was a muslim) literally because she was black. One Imam I knew who was white had a black wife who was also studying Islam formally, he outright told me that her Desi classmates literally did not speak to her until she got top grades and they wanted to study with her. On black muslim I knew had someone say to him - in the mosque - "so you n-words do care about God". I was talking to a woman about marriage at the time, then she confessed to me that her father would accept me but her mother was racist and I would have to 'fight to get her approval', she cried but I outright said I'm not willing to do that - phuck that.

You're painting Islam with rose tinted glasses, IMO.

Sadly some muslims value manmade cultures and tribalism and selfish beahavior
over the word of God almighty

Humans don’t depict Gods nature or his holy book

Man is imperfect God is perfect bro

I know how it can be as a white muslim since I’m the only one lol some might hate me behind my back but idc I’m not in the mosque for them or for any human im there for the lord .

Life is a test
Don’t let racism and cultural Muslims sabotage your beatiful connection to your loving king

Every one who insulted you or harmed you will be brought to justice one day by the king
Himself for turningyou away from him , they don’t understand the severity and punishment that awaits them for such a crime .

Driving a person away from Islam is one of worst sins a muslim can commit and if they don’t seek repentance for
God and ask the person for forgiveness who they wronged thenthey are done in the afterlife . They are for the hellfire doesn’t mattter if they are muslim.

Who cares what another man who has no clue about his Deen thinks about me or u bro this should make us strive to better muslims in the eyes of Allah .
We should Only care about what our king thinks about us .

Racism does exist In our ummah I agree But it has nothing to do with our religion .
Its tribalism and culture so far I have been treated with respect some prob hate me behind my bak but Idc .Allah will always be my king

Black muslim brothers are some of the most pious and kind hearted muslims i have met srs e. Black muslims have been nicer to me than any other race of muslim. Accepted me with open arms ,
they will always be my brothers .
Your lord loves you , and he will punish the evil doers who have wronged you and turned you away from him.

Don’t give up on your loving king bro because he would never give up on you seriously just imagine you’re loving king checking up on you every day seeing how you are . Everytime you sit down to eat remember that it is Allah who provided you with that meal , it Allah who provided you with shelter ,it is Alllah the most kind who gives you life another day so you can spend with your family .

I’m a short skinny poor white muslim who has always had health problems all my life ,
Been totally disrespected by everyone ,friends have left me after my conversion
family don’t respect me .
I have had suffered so much in life my health problems feel like my insides are failing each day .

But still that won’t change the relationship with my king .he sees all he hears all. He’s testing me to see how I will react and if I will still be thankful to him and is cleansing me of my sins .

God tests All of us
He wants to see how much you are you willing to go through to stick by him .
Some Prophets were tortured and Murdered for there faith bro holy pious messengers of God
and they never gave up on there lord

Don’t giveup bro please don’t
Dont let the cursed satan win .turn to Allah before you return to Allah you only have one chance in this life ,this exam. Don’t let a few idiots ruin your eternal life .

His doors or mercy are always open no matter how far you have gone and rebelled that’s kind and caring our Lord is . Allahu akbar

I apologise on behalf of those idiots who have failed to show the beauty of Islam
It angered me , some random guy on internet

Now imagine how much those hypocrites have angered youre Lord who loves you for turning you away from him

. Allahs beautiful creations puppies,kittens,whales,babies ,flowers rivers,beaches the solar system and earth itself shows his greatness his strength his might. his compassion

All God wants is to be acknowledged that’s all. Fulfill what he has commanded us and don’t be a bad person .

He deserves to be acknowledged praised and worshipped for his amazing creation and his loving nature ,and In return he’s going to give us eternal paradise bro

Eternal bliss forever , palaces , anything you wish for will happen . Everything you never got in this life you will get there and yet none of us humans deserve it .
But the best of part of paradise is meeting the king of kings
the one who loves you ,clothed you ,fed you , the one who created you . The one who was always there when no one else was . The only one who trully cares about u

The master of science
,the architect of the universe .exalted is his majesty ,the king of kings
La Hawla Walla Quwwata Illah Billah

Allah loves you bro and so do I
And I genuinely wish u best in life

Never let anybody men
or women come in between that beautiful relationship with the creator I have accepted that I will never get married in this life and I will suffer with health problems untill my last dying breath .
As long as my Lord is pleased with me is all that matters .

This life is temporary look how fast life is going by .
Its terrifying really
, the grave yard is waiting for us all ,we are all nearly there

We must prepare to meet our creator

[wikipediafile]

Aloha actor welcome to Hawaii

[jfloycp]

Hellz yeah,
-female genital mutilation
-honor killings
-executing ****gos
-despising infidels
-religion > freedom of speech, expression
-jihad

[sickkentbrah]

uk = 6.3% muslim
us = 1.1% muslim

explain or stop spreading false information.

if Christianity is so great then why dont christians actually follow it ?

[sickkentbrah]

Hellz yeah,

heres the western view on these exact topics


-female genital mutilation
western world has caitlyn jenners.. imagine being so brain ****ed you chop your dick off, and in reverse

-honor killings
lynching
hate crimes
kkk
last decade was all about racism bro

-executing ****gos
whats better, dying as you are or hiding your whole life due to peer pressure


-despising infidels
despise hijabs, fasting, praying
approve of yamaka's, jewish veils, nun clothing
approve of intermittent fasting
approve of yoga (same positions)


-religion > freedom of speech, expression
islam restricts aggression and brutality
imagine if muslims expressed that aggression and brutality without fear of their god unlike christians
remember who won the crusades kiddo.

-jihad
japanese kamikaze
indian kamikaze
vietnamese kamikaze

three different religions who honor their " jihadi's "

dumb ***got

[miscerForLulz]

I think you and I both know that there is racial hierarchies and ethnic tribalism rife within Islam.

There are mosques exclusively built to cater to a specific ethnic or racial group... Some people may not think there is anything wrong with that, but they will do things like literally importing imams from foreign countries, to exclusively speak in a foreign language. There practices are designed to exclude.

Interethnic and interracial marriage is frowned upon.

If you are being honest, you would not say that ethnic tribalism and exclusion is not a big problem in Islam.

When I was a convert it was a very common complaint from convert muslims (of all races) they spoke about the ethnic and racial tribalism in Islam. I noticed the muslims who were born into the religion often simply didn't want to hear it or discuss it.

One white due I knew was almost in tears telling us why he no longer went to the local mosques (dude walked around in Sunnah attire with a beard and headcovering), because the Desi muslims would tell him to dump his wife (who was a muslim) literally because she was black. One Imam I knew who was white had a black wife who was also studying Islam formally, he outright told me that her Desi classmates literally did not speak to her until she got top grades and they wanted to study with her. On black muslim I knew had someone say to him - in the mosque - "so you n-words do care about God". I was talking to a woman about marriage at the time, then she confessed to me that her father would accept me but her mother was racist and I would have to 'fight to get her approval', she cried but I outright said I'm not willing to do that - phuck that.

A White Imam told me that he's travelled around the world and around the nation, and it's the same with the Arabs, Desi, and African muslims. The same ethnic and racial tribalism. (He's still a muslim.)

Relevant video...




(Note: White converts are treated the best by muslims, IME and the experiences of others I've spoken to, including born muslilms.)


You're painting Islam with rose tinted glasses, IMO.

You're mixing culture with religion...

Hellz yeah,
-female genital mutilation
-honor killings
-executing ****gos
-despising infidels
-religion > freedom of speech, expression
-jihad

If you can show me one of those from the Quran, just pick any single one you like...I'll wait for you.

What if I said the KKK represents Christianity or the Mormons? You'd call me crazy too. I'll wait boyo I've done a lot of studies on the Christianity and Islamic faiths and none of what you listed is in their book.

[jfloycp]

heres the western view on these exact topics

supposed hypocrisy doesn’t justify evil

[sickkentbrah]

supposed hypocrisy doesn’t justify evil

correct
however none of what he said was true.. im trying to show you the same view hes using to argue his original statement playing devils advocate

the actual explanation never gets through to small brains

-female genital mutilation
this is cultural not religious

-honor killings
cultural, not religious
-executing ****gos
cultural, not religious
in islam if youre born trans you arent killed

-despising infidels
i dont know what this means, in islam saladin showed great mercy to what you guys describe as your understanding of islams "infidels"


-religion > freedom of speech, expression
in islam feminism, freedom of speech and expression were all encouraged.. thats why we respect scholars, teachers and musicians
in fact they have more females in political power over time
they have more teachers and inventions of science in the early ages some of which were even stolen and rebranded
and even the goat musicians and poets come from islam
the language itself; if you speak arabic or any derivative of arabic you will know; 1 word = 10 english words
you cant comprehend the depth of arabic if you dont speak it


-jihad
jihad is a metaphor, not literal; even what im doing right now by arguing is considered jihad

[allnattybro92]

Hellz yeah,
-female genital mutilation
-honor killings
-executing ****gos
-despising infidels
-religion > freedom of speech, expression
-jihad

-female genetal mutilation is no where in the Quran
- killing cheaters are only for cheating spouses who ruined there beautiful little families lives over selfishness ( the bible and torah permit stoning also in the book of Leviticus both men and women cheaters get put to death
-just like the Torah/bible Islam is also against homosexuality as the story of soddom and Gomorrah is told in all 3 scriptures . Doesn’t say anything about killing gays tho just that is hated by the lord.
-we are not aloud to hate non muslims because they are still Gods creation we are not even aloud to swear and look at women never mind hating another person
-religion teaches moral standards and benefits the poor (feed the poor no interest)
-jihad is only permitted when the muslim is under attack for his faith and livelihood, in war in Islam it is forbidden to kill the enemy’s children women elderly and its forbidden to burn there crops and food source . And if the opposition stop attacking the muslims then it’s commanded by God for us to make peace with them

I have read the Quran more than 6 times .im a convert and I’m not going to behead my catholic granny . She would prob kick my ass anyway

My religion does not permit evil
.it promotes piety discipline,fighting your desires / lust ,worshipping and serving God almighty , do as many good deeds as possible ,abstaining from sins and not following satan.
Keeping away from adultery,gambling,drugs,alcohol,lying ,stealing,backbiting,intrest/usury, suspicion ,racism /tribalism.
Fight against injustice , stand up for the weak .

earning Gods love and heaven , lowering your gaze and not gawking at women like they are a piece of meat
, respecting Gods creation Humans (even non muslims ) and respecting animals
Worshipping the king 5 times a day being thankful for everything

Its a crime how misunderstood my religion is .People forget we are not a tribe or a military unit we are a religion like Judaism and Christianity and we share a lot of beliefs with them

2 billion of us in the world
Its none of my business what another mans religion is

I respect all people

[BetaAsPhuck]

You're mixing culture with religion...

That kind of dismissal of the problems within the Islamic community is very common, IME.

Islam is both a creed and community, they influence one another.

[BetaAsPhuck]

I apologise on behalf of those idiots who have failed to show the beauty of Islam
It angered me , some random guy on internet

You're not accountable for their behaviour, but I appreciate the intention.

I believe you mean well, and are good hearted person. God bless.

[sickkentbrah]

That kind of dismissal of the problems within the Islamic community is very common, IME.

Islam is both a creed and community, they influence one another.

islam is both a creed and community?

now youre just making up stuff as you go kiddo
because theres 15 branches of Christianity based on their "community, creed and interpretation" of the religion

[jfloycp]

So much supposed virtu above

But if you dare publish a drawing with Mohamed, time to die

[GordonXXX]

I'm not blaming all 1.6 Billion Muslims - I'm just blaming about 60 Million of them.

You are never safe as an infidel in a Muslim country. Do not fool yourself into believing otherwise.

Why on earth would anyone be so stupid as to visit a Muslim country? Those who do take their chances, I’m afraid.

[BetaAsPhuck]

-executing ****gos
cultural, not religious

That's not true. Which Islamic school of thought do you follow?

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and...In_Islamic_law