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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    College degrees are already massively oversaturated too, while there is a shortage of skilled tradesmen, honestly unless your path includes going masters+ college is silly.
    haha. Yea, it's silly to make 50% more over your lifetime.

    Conservatives really do hate education.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Wages are barely beating inflation and they're only rising because of minimum wage increases in liberal states.

    Do you ever think logically?
    Interesting how hours and benefits get cut due to those higher wages.....so progressive.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    haha. Yea, it's silly to make 50% more over your lifetime.

    Conservatives really do hate education.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Interesting how hours and benefits get cut due to those higher wages.....so progressive.
    You keep repeating this like it's fact. It's not actually. Oh, and lots of progressive companies throughout liberal states are making the change to a livable minimum wage, regardless of law. And no, hours and benefits aren't being cut. Conservative companies like Walmart however masterfully use low benefits and fewer hours to keep their employees on the public teat.
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    Originally Posted by isingmodel View Post
    Has nothing to do with yang, if you dont think universal healthcare will be a reality in the US you are a deluded fool, but we already knew that

    50 years from now itll be mainstream in the Republican party
    Will the standards of universal healthcare apply to the politicians that support it?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Congratulations, you have a BA in women's studies, basket weaving, philosophy, etc. Now please make my Nitro Cold Brew.
    Explain how those with degrees earn so much more than those without on average.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    You keep repeating this like it's fact. It's not actually. Oh, and lots of progressive companies throughout liberal states are making the change to a livable minimum wage, regardless of law. And no, hours and benefits aren't being cut. Conservative companies like Walmart however masterfully use low benefits and fewer hours to keep their employees on the public teat.
    Whole Foods is a conservative company?

    https://www.fastcompany.com/90316370...5-an-hour-wage

    Also, what magic number is a living minimum wage?
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Explain how those with degrees earn so much more than those without on average.
    Those with useful degrees? I don't know guy, you tell us....

    I know a girl who got her BA in theater script writing, she walks dogs for a living and babysits my co-worker's kids.....guess you need a BA in theater for that.
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    Originally Posted by tecom View Post
    This is the truth. Meanwhile, Canada opened the floodgates to immigration at the yearly rate of the equivalent of Nova Scotia's population. They ALL take advantage of our healthcare system and flood it as soon as they get citizenship. This makes it extremely hard for people that have lived here for 10+ generations to get decent access to Healthcare. Socialism is so backwards. You have to grow up in it and live it to understand it.

    Basically, Socialism is GREAT if you come from anywhere but the welcoming Country.

    Ironically, once these same immigrants have been here for 2-3 generations: they also get fuked up the ass hard with no lube just like the rest of us.

    America, PLEASE FIGHT to move things further RIGHT so Canada is FORCED to follow suit like the CUCKS that 'we' are. I'm not even kidding. American Patriotism and strong nationalism needs to be the coolest thing ever and remain that way for decades to come. This should teach Canada to grow some balls and eventually, hopefully, tell the U.K. government to go fuk themselves.
    Sadly, our current demographic shift makes that impossible going forward. Thats fact that can not be argued otherwise. Future MAGA politicians will still get 60+ million nationally moving forward, while the communists starts easily surpassing 70 and depending on minority/immigrant turnout could get the highest vote total in history in 2020, coming close to that number.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Those with useful degrees? I don't know guy, you tell us....

    I know a girl who got her BA in theater script writing, she walks dogs for a living and babysits my co-worker's kids.....guess you need a BA in theater for that.
    Sillie is purposely being obtuse. I don't think he would believe that people like Bernie Sanders types are the successful/more educated people. JFK types maybe. And if he is a fan of higher iq stats, is he a race realist?
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    Why do all graphs show how much more money you make the more educated you are if most of the degrees are worthless?

    Unless...you conservatives have no idea what you're talking about because you hate education.

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Why do all graphs show how much more money you make the more educated you are if most of the degrees are worthless?

    Unless...you conservatives have no idea what you're talking about because you hate education.

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    I live in Canada and have been waiting to see a specialist since march 2 years ago. When I asked my doctor if it would be better to go somewhere I could pay for a specialist he finally caved and gave me their phone number. Im still waiting to make an appointment. They dont just make appointments, they call you when they are ready to make one. No dates or timelines just have to wait and suffer.

    Canada healthcare is so awesome.

    Im so lucky I have a job that could accommodate me when I was at my worst. Or Id have lost my home.
    Originally Posted by tecom View Post
    This is the truth. Meanwhile, Canada opened the floodgates to immigration at the yearly rate of the equivalent of Nova Scotia's population. They ALL take advantage of our healthcare system and flood it as soon as they get citizenship. This makes it extremely hard for people that have lived here for 10+ generations to get decent access to Healthcare. Socialism is so backwards. You have to grow up in it and live it to understand it.

    Basically, Socialism is GREAT if you come from anywhere but the welcoming Country.

    Ironically, once these same immigrants have been here for 2-3 generations: they also get fuked up the ass hard with no lube just like the rest of us.

    America, PLEASE FIGHT to move things further RIGHT so Canada is FORCED to follow suit like the CUCKS that 'we' are. I'm not even kidding. American Patriotism and strong nationalism needs to be the coolest thing ever and remain that way for decades to come. This should teach Canada to grow some balls and eventually, hopefully, tell the U.K. government to go fuk themselves.
    AlwaysFocus and tecom are two Canadians and both great and honest posters. The are more aware of their healthcare and more honest about it than our resident Tammy. Tammy is an ignorant propagandist.

    Relate AlwaysFocus and tecom posts here to what it would be like in the United States, a much, much larger population. Medicare for All in the US would be a $30 Trillion+ cluster fuk.
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    #Learntocode
    Good suggestion. However any degree opens doors that are forever shut to the uneducated.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    I'm confident that when the primaries start and the eventual dem winner is known, they'll start to move to the center. Their internal polling will tell them the surest way to beating the Orange Menace will be to move to the center and pound him on his idiocy, healthcare, declining economy, increased illegal immigration, and massive increase in the debt.

    There's no way they run on a platform of free healthcare for illegals or open borders. They'll also move off of nationalized healthcare and bring back Obamacare in some fashion.
    I agree that this will be their strategy. Do you think in an honest media environment they would be able to walk back their current stances? I mean they are all trying to move farther left of each other right now, and the sound bites and footage are out there. The only way they could effectively skirt that problem is if the media assists them. Does this trouble you that its disingenuous?
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    AlwaysFocus and tecom are two Canadians and both great and honest posters. The are more aware of their healthcare and more honest about it than our resident Tammy. Tammy is an ignorant propagandist.

    Relate AlwaysFocus and tecom posts here to what it would be like in the United States, a much, much larger population. Medicare for All in the US would be a $30 Trillion+ cluster fuk.
    Yeah, if we didn't have too worry about loads of people exploiting/abusing it - and people would take more responsibility for their health - I think then it could possibly be a feasible thing. There's way too many shyt heads that would ruin it for everyone though unfortunately.

    With that said I do think our healthcare system is broken, but that certainly isn't the solution.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    AlwaysFocus and tecom are two Canadians and both great and honest posters. The are more aware of their healthcare and more honest about it than our resident Tammy. Tammy is an ignorant propagandist.

    Relate AlwaysFocus and tecom posts here to what it would be like in the United States, a much, much larger population. Medicare for All in the US would be a $30 Trillion+ cluster fuk.
    They're both simpletons who offer nothing relevant other than typical right-wing talking points. You only like them because you agree with them politically. It isn't hard to figure out. You're not that bright.

    I'd wager neither went past high school. They're here for the trump, not a serious discussion of politics.

    Tecom cuts grass for a living and i'm pretty sure alwaysfocus is on disability and welfare.


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    Originally Posted by Witrebel View Post
    I agree that this will be their strategy. Do you think in an honest media environment they would be able to walk back their current stances? I mean they are all trying to move farther left of each other right now, and the sound bites and footage are out there. The only way they could effectively skirt that problem is if the media assists them. Does this trouble you that its disingenuous?
    IDK, why can't the candidates simply say they've given more thought to the issues and have changed their stance a bit? I don't that would be disingenuous.

    Honestly, I just want them to move to the center so we can be rid of Trump. If they have ideas that are too radical, they won't pass Congress. Although Trump has shown us that policy can be set via EO.
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    Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
    Yeah, if we didn't have too worry about loads of people exploiting/abusing it - and people would take more responsibility for their health - I think then it could possibly be a feasible thing. There's way too many shyt heads that would ruin it for everyone though unfortunately.

    With that said I do think our healthcare system is broken, but that certainly isn't the solution.
    People in the US go bankrupt from healthcare expenditures and that hasn't stopped Amerifats from having the unhealthiest lifestyles in the world. Universal healthcare isn't going to change anything about people's eating habits.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    They're both simpletons who offer nothing relevant other than typical right-wing talking points. You only like them because you agree with them politically. It isn't hard to figure out. You're not that bright.

    I'd wager neither went past high school. They're here for the trump, not a serious discussion of politics.

    Tecom cuts grass for a living and i'm pretty sure alwaysfocus is on disability and welfare.


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    Thank you for responding with your delusional arrogance, but most importantly illustrating that you are a flat out liar.
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    Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
    Yeah, if we didn't have too worry about loads of people exploiting/abusing it - and people would take more responsibility for their health - I think then it could possibly be a feasible thing. There's way too many shyt heads that would ruin it for everyone though unfortunately.

    With that said I do think our healthcare system is broken, but that certainly isn't the solution.
    Too many moving parts for the government to run anything like this. Obamacare, as we all know, was and is a disaster. It is insurance, without coverage.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    IDK, why can't the candidates simply say they've given more thought to the issues and have changed their stance a bit? I don't that would be disingenuous.

    Honestly, I just want them to move to the center so we can be rid of Trump. If they have ideas that are too radical, they won't pass Congress. Although Trump has shown us that policy can be set via EO.
    disingenuous
    "not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really"

    Are you saying that you think they are sincere right now when they are stating their policies and then will be sincere when they say "we've given more thought and changed our minds based on the merits of the argument"?

    I mean you are right that they could use your defense, and it very well might work, but does it concern you that it would be disingenuous? Does it concern you that our media would facilitate something like this by not calling them out on the hypocrisy?
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Good suggestion. However any degree opens doors that are forever shut to the uneducated.
    A BA in Philosophy will open what door? I mean, teenagers work at Starbucks, and their co-worker can have that degree.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    They're both simpletons who offer nothing relevant other than typical right-wing talking points. You only like them because you agree with them politically. It isn't hard to figure out. You're not that bright.

    I'd wager neither went past high school. They're here for the trump, not a serious discussion of politics.

    Tecom cuts grass for a living and i'm pretty sure alwaysfocus is on disability and welfare.


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    So you're insulting people for having a job now? What the hell do you do Tammy? The unemployed can't look down on anyone who has a job. The trannies that work the streets on Halsted contribute more than you do.
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    Originally Posted by isingmodel View Post
    People in the US go bankrupt from healthcare expenditures and that hasn't stopped Amerifats from having the unhealthiest lifestyles in the world. Universal healthcare isn't going to change anything about people's eating habits.
    Why should my taxes go up because of Morbid Obesity? Also, maybe leftists shouldn't push the Healthy at any Size movement, or claim they're being "Fat-Shamed." I mean, someone like Amber Lynn exists, because of people like you.
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    Universal Healthcare still being a heated debate in the most powerful and richest country on Earth is mindblowing.

    Statistics don't lie, rankings don't lie, numbers don't lie, real life doesn't lie - Universal Healthcare is the best option, especially compared to the system the US has, if you can even call it a healthcare system.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    So you're insulting people for having a job now? What the hell do you do Tammy? The unemployed can't look down on anyone who has a job. The trannies that work the streets on Halsted contribute more than you do.
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    Agreed.

    I haven't noticed many if any lefts here who are middle of the road or question the far lefts such as Warren and Bernie and the unrealistic social programs they are hawking. Instead, the lefts here just go with it and then try to rationalize these programs with no regards to simple economics and consequences.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    I'm confident that when the primaries start and the eventual dem winner is known, they'll start to move to the center. Their internal polling will tell them the surest way to beating the Orange Menace will be to move to the center and pound him on his idiocy, healthcare, declining economy, increased illegal immigration, and massive increase in the debt.

    There's no way they run on a platform of free healthcare for illegals or open borders. They'll also move off of nationalized healthcare and bring back Obamacare in some fashion.
    Correct, that is the only way to swoop up the farmers( very angry) and middle class women( angry) and ex repubs( very very angry) and not look like a looony tune.
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