Guns make us equal.

[AetasNitor]

That’s a weird flex. Do you actually think that? You think that your domestic guns will outgun the military and govt if you should suddenly be transported to some facist state and not the democracy you live in

Do you think the Hong Kong protestors have the slightest chance against the chinese govt and military force ?

Its the prevention of totalitarianism in areas where gun rights exist.
Thats a weird line of thinking, why would gun owners be magically transported to an oppressive state?
The Hong Kong protestors would not be in the state that they're in if they had per-existing rights.

[GreatOldOne]

its not what you need to defend your house, its what you need to defend from government tyranny, you cuck3d smiling *******. You dont get it. You are soft. A product of too much comfort. Basically how rome fell. Keep coping beta. You and your kind will eventually erode us. Not me. But the country as a whole.

Guns don't prevent government tyranny. Lots of places are swarming in guns and their governments are ridiculous tyrannical.

I'm not making society weaker, but stronger. Smarter. Kinder. Better.

[GreatOldOne]

They are what keeps the power in the hands of the people instead of the government.


The sooner people get that into their heads the better

This is not at all true.

[GreatOldOne]

You were one of those theatre arts kids in school huh?

Philosophy and psychology. Never got into drama but was friends with those people. Best parties.

Regular HS.

[Judgment]

That’s a weird flex. Do you actually think that? You think that your domestic guns will outgun the military and govt if you should suddenly be transported to some facist state and not the democracy you live in

Why do people believe that our own military would enforce these things? We swore an Oath to the people. Some dirtbags might defer, but our military, as a majority, is no threat to us. It would have to be an outside force.

Do you think the Hong Kong protestors have the slightest chance against the chinese govt and military force ?

Of course not. Because they're unarmed in an established communist society. Not even a comparison in the slightest.

[badreligion]

A 130lb incel or wannabe gangster can kill any alpha dude who would KO them stiff if they threw hands like real men in less then a second with a gun, So yes guns definitely level the playing field

Guns level the field, yes but you have to remember...In order to use a gun, you have to deploy it meaning if you are getting the crap beaten out of you and a person doesn't have any unarmed fighting skills the chances of getting the firearm out dwindle and even worse the person beating you could potentially use your own gun against you.

Strong username too btw BAW HA HA

[Shortfuze]

I'll just say this much; you have a liberal narrative painting gun owners as a potential threat and advocating draconian anti-gun legislation and at the same time, you have a gigantic media machine that churns out movies, tv shows, games, literature, entertainment etc that shows a good guy blasting away bad guys with all kinds of weapons. I find that rather ironic.

[chaunce54]

That’s a weird flex. Do you actually think that? You think that your domestic guns will outgun the military and govt if you should suddenly be transported to some facist state and not the democracy you live in

Do you think the Hong Kong protestors have the slightest chance against the chinese govt and military force ?

Maybe you should consider why they are trying to ban the guns that are used in the LEAST amount of violent crime. Why would they focus on those guns?

[z4v4]

If you're a violent person that turns to violence over an argument you probably shouldn't own a firearm.

This kind of contradicts your original premise.

[cashinout]

That’s a weird flex. Do you actually think that? You think that your domestic guns will outgun the military and govt if you should suddenly be transported to some facist state and not the democracy you live in

Do you think the Hong Kong protestors have the slightest chance against the chinese govt and military force ?

What kind of logic is "Your domestic guns won't do a damn thing, so it's better to not have anything at all"

btw fighting an insurgency of 100 million armed Americans is not as simple and easy as you think

[Farley1324]

That’s a weird flex. Do you actually think that? You think that your domestic guns will outgun the military and govt if you should suddenly be transported to some facist state and not the democracy you live in

Do you think the Hong Kong protestors have the slightest chance against the chinese govt and military force ?

See: Basically every guerrilla war in history

Do you think the Chinese military invading Hong Kong is really a People keeping their own tyrannical government in check? Don't you mean, if the Chinese people were armed, would we even be having this discussion about invading Hong Kong? (doubt it)

[Farley1324]

Guns don't prevent government tyranny. Lots of places are swarming in guns and their governments are ridiculous tyrannical.

Name 3 places where any person can have a gun and normal people are "swimming in guns", but the government is tyrannical.

[z4v4]

btw fighting an insurgency of 100 million armed Americans is not as simple and easy as you think

Yeah, it's pretty simple.

[cashinout]

Yeah, it's pretty simple.

lol okay yea sure it is

start slaughtering citizens and leveling American cities and see how that goes for you buddy

[Farley1324]

Guns level the field, yes but you have to remember...In order to use a gun, you have to deploy it meaning if you are getting the crap beaten out of you and a person doesn't have any unarmed fighting skills the chances of getting the firearm out dwindle and even worse the person beating you could potentially use your own gun against you.

Strong username too btw BAW HA HA

You are ready to provide a list of examples where this happened, yes? Millions of people carry every day in the US, and there are tens to hundreds of thousands of defensive gun uses in the US every year.

So there are, what, tens to hundreds of thousands of examples of armed defenders havnig their own gun used against them annually, yes?

How about an example? Shouldn't be hard to come up with a few thousand as its own stat, yearly...so how about you just come up with a few (like, as in three) from IDK let's be generous and say the past five years in the US.

I'll wait.

[cashinout]

LOL and what would 100 million Americans come together so strongly against that they would actually take on the military and government?

Whatever hypothetical it is, I can assure you that being armed in that situation is better than not

[z4v4]

lol okay yea sure it is

start slaughtering citizens and leveling American cities and see how that goes for you buddy

You said 100 million insurgents are fighting the government. Explain in detail what that means then we'll get to the slaughtering citizens part.

[badreligion]

You are ready to provide a list of examples where this happened, yes? Millions of people carry every day in the US, and there are tens to hundreds of thousands of defensive gun uses in the US every year.

So there are, what, tens to hundreds of thousands of examples of armed defenders havnig their own gun used against them annually, yes?

How about an example? Shouldn't be hard to come up with a few thousand as its own stat, yearly...so how about you just come up with a few (like, as in three) from IDK let's be generous and say the past five years in the US.

I'll wait.

All I said was that it was a potential risk, which it is.

[cashinout]

You said 100 million insurgents are fighting the government. Explain in detail what that means then we'll get to the slaughtering citizens part.

It means that there are potentially 100 million armed Americans to subdue if you want to implement some sort of totalitarian occupation

[Farley1324]

All I said was that it was a potential risk, which it is.

And your car's airbag killing you is a potential risk, would you please remove all of yours and provide some evidence of having done so? That's the smart play, right...to avoid that risk?

No but really thank you for admitting that you pulled that out of your ass and it has no basis in reality as being armed clearly, demonstrably, objectively puts a victim of violent crime in a better position and reduces the odds of serious injury or death, with the armed defenders gun virtually never being used against them

[z4v4]

It means that there are potentially 100 million armed Americans to subdue if you want to implement some sort of totalitarian occupation

I understand that. Now explain the details of how and which targets being attacked, etc.

[cashinout]

I understand that. Now explain the details of how and which targets being attacked, etc.

I'm the one who said it WOULDN'T BE easy and simple and now you want me to explain the details of that?

[Judgment]

Who is their commander in chief?

What is the point of basic training, to install obedience to those in authority ?

Again, I'm gonna need you to read the oath we take. That will explain everything. We aren't indoctrinated as mindless killers, and we fight for our families and our country.

HK is not an established communist society. The power and might of the Chinese military would simply overpower the protestors should they be armed

They got in bed with communists and their fifty year agreement is over. Again, not a comparison in the slightest.

[Farley1324]

I understand that. Now explain the details of how and which targets being attacked, etc.

What targets do you want him to hypothetically choose between? Explain in detail. This is your military occupation of an entire nation after all. What's your move that he needs to counter? only a few million square miles to occupy. Simple right?

[cashinout]

Is it though ?

Arms against arms escalates

Arms against unarmed may make the militia wonder what the fuk they are doing, revolt and stand with the people

Lmao okay I didn't realize I was talking to an idealist

I'm sure the North Korean army will free its citizens any day now

[GreatOldOne]

Name 3 places where any person can have a gun and normal people are "swimming in guns", but the government is tyrannical.

Lebanon, DRC, Sudan

Edit: I believe we have escaped tyranny, for the most part with notable exceptions, because of the enlightened thinkers who put great work into our Constitution. Which is the best piece of ethics and philosophy ever put down...inspired by God. True religion.

And it does include arms.

But for the right of a well regulated militia, whi can correctly function.

That doesn't currently exist, imo.

And frankly, states with good gun laws are indeed better at gun violence.

It shouldn't be that easy to kill.

Over the years, I became pacifist...because dead people can't be fixed. You can fix a lot of problems, but if they are dead you failed. It's definitive and it didn't work.

Getting to world peace will take more guts than bullets, and I think so fervently I have no fear of death. It's coming.

Make your effort for life. Not death.

We've come to far to resort to war any longer. We're better than this.

Fight with culture...intelligence, kindness, abundance, success, understanding, food for the hungry, medicine for the children and mothers. And win.

The writing is all the way on the wall...and we have two choices which is dark and light.

I choose light with my final efforts.



Somebody needs their eyes on the prize...heaven as life. Don't have a gun, because you don't want to kill.

That's one of God's eyes you just put out. And he needs and wants all of them. Even the rotten, mean, horrible.

He's the winner. Undefeated and undefeatable.

But you need faith to carry on when it's dark.

[Judgment]

^^^you follow orders

Not unlawful orders. That's where your confusion is.

Is it though ?

Arms against arms escalates

Arms against unarmed may make the militia wonder what the fuk they are doing, revolt and stand with the people

Strong understanding of the Holocaust.

[Farley1324]

Lmao okay I didn't realize I was talking to an idealist

I'm sure the North Korean army will free its citizens any day now

How dare you. the North Korean citizens should be on their hands and knees licking the boots of their overloads and thanking them for having the foresight to disarm the population, for their own protection, to prevent them being massacred by the government

[cashinout]

If North Korea had oil reserves the US would already have freed them

I hear they got dem dere minerals though

[z4v4]

I'm the one who said it WOULDN'T BE easy and simple and now you want me to explain the details of that?

Right, it wouldn't be easy for 100 million to coordinate a coup, but it would be very easy for the gov to defend itself against a coup, though.