The fear of the lord is the beginning of Wisdom
I respectfully disagree with you Jesus said , I am the way, THE TRUTH and the life
This is not meant to be condescending or argumentative, it is not as if I have not throughout my life utilized critical and objective thought and consumed numerous books that I have read seeking answers to life’s questions, to who I am and my purpose, the singular entity that has helped me and peel back the layers of the onion so to speak, that has revealed clear and concise answers that make sense to me is in fact the Bible, as perplexed as I am at times in trying to understand it and still till this very day, seek answers to questions I have!
For me, the birth, life, death and resurrection of Jesus makes sense and gives me an authentic hope, in this life and eternal life, I have not seen any parallels to his life and wisdom, in all of history, the principles he not only
Lived by and set forth IMO are unmatched, I’ve yet to see anyone who though may not believe in him, point to where anything he said or how he actually lived is wrong, I am by no stretch a water walker, I fail daily and no excuses or sounding holier than thou, I’ve come to know that with this living God I try and follow, failure is not final and that works for ME, there considerable more thought towards following him but this is sufficient for now in a nutshell in my belief
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Thread: ALL LIVES MATTER, especially..
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06-24-2022, 05:50 PM #61
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John 4:20
Romans 12 :2
Ephesiens 6:13
"The Lord is my rock,my fortress and my deliverer, my God is my rock, in whom shall I take refuge"
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06-24-2022, 06:55 PM #62
Because Loving was based for the most part on the 14th amendment's equal protection clause. Roe and the others he mentioned were based on substantive due process rights. Such rights have long been a point of contention throughout US history. Minimum wage was once considered to be a violation of an employer's substantive due process right to freedom of contract, child labor laws were the same. In the decision (p. 6), Thomas points out that in Dredd Scott, the Court relied upon substantive due process to assert that "Congress was powerless to emancipate slaves brought into the federal territories." Only after constitutional amendment and war was this error rectified.
His point is substantive due process is an end-around for lazy legislators and delegates the task of issuing policy to an unelected body, the judiciary. An inept and incompetent congress has been normalized where we as a people think it's ok for us to receive and lose rights primarily by court order, and that should not be acceptable. Roe's overturning can be rectified by passing a law in Congress codifying it, but every administration AND congress punted on that for the last 50 years."it's likely one of us will have to spend some days alone"
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06-24-2022, 07:02 PM #63
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Thank you for that. I do consider myself a generally good person. I'm not particularly smart and there's nothing about me that's anything but just about average.
I do agree that federal government overreach is a real thing and we should all be aware of it. I just tend to root for the underdog and to me, this decision today was a direct hit on women's rights in general and it's a sad day even though it doesn't affect me one iota.
I can get on board with being an originalist except for views on women's rights and slavery. The Framer's had those two ideologies wrong IMO.
Agreed, no perfect answer. And for the record, for whatever reason, I don't respond well when I'm being condescended. Maybe in the future if you genuinely want to have civil discourse with me, perhaps tone down the condescension? Just a friendly request.
Peace to you as well and enjoy your evening!
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06-24-2022, 07:06 PM #64
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06-24-2022, 07:50 PM #65
It isn't really a hit on women's rights because the decision didn't ban abortions, it simply allowed states to set their own laws. Again though, it is a complicated issue because even for states that restrict abortion, you could argue the converse -- that those states are providing a direct hit on the rights of the unborn.
As I've mentioned in other threads, I don't really have a firm opinion on abortion either way because I can honestly see and appreciate the arguments on both sides of the issue.It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
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06-24-2022, 08:08 PM #66
This is true and the media has fabricated it up to frame it as abortions are banned and that it is a direct attack on women's rights to make it political and attempt to gain a political competitive edge on a very large voting block.
Marco Rubio: Nothing has been banned – as the ruling simply reserved the regulatory power over abortion laws to the state legislatures, as prescribed by the 10th Amendment for those powers not explicitly enumerated in the Constitution.Helping one person may not change the world, but it could change the world for one person.
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06-24-2022, 09:30 PM #67
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06-24-2022, 10:42 PM #68
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06-25-2022, 03:10 AM #69
Well put and not condescending, at all. Everything you pointed out lies within the realm of thought: belief, hope, purpose, seeking, etc., etc. and the 'I' that 'utilizes critical and objective thought' is thought. There is only a body and the thinking process in a field of awareness, an intelligence that is totally obscured by thought.
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06-25-2022, 03:50 AM #70
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06-25-2022, 04:48 AM #71
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I don't expect you to have read all of my spewings on the topic, but I'm not advocating in the least for the casual abortion; I advocate for the abortions for the well-being of the mother and incest and rape. That's it!
I realize it moves the decisions to the States, but my personal belief is that we need Federal protections from the more radicalized States. I mean, come on, imagine getting raped and dealing with that trauma only to realize a month or so later that you are impregnated. It's preposterous in my opinion to force a woman to carry to term under those circumstances.
Anyway, people can believe what they want to believe. Just don't put me in the bucket of excusing vending machine style abortion access.
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06-25-2022, 05:02 AM #72
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Gotcha, I wasn't aware. I googled it, but didn't find a quick number so thanks for posting.
I had a friend who had a breast cancer screening funded by them that caught it at stage 2 and likely saved her life, so they do other things.
Good news for you and the others is that it looks like maybe you'll get your $4/year back since Roe has been overturned.
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06-25-2022, 06:35 AM #73
People are stepping up.. Good to see not all want women stripped of their rights.
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I tell it like it is, if you want smoke blown up your ass or something sugar coated. I suggest you get a Hooker and a powdered donut.
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06-25-2022, 07:07 AM #74
Nobody is stripped of ANY rights though. The “right” to kill babies still exists in places where people are protesting (Chicago, LA, etc etc)….In terms of corporations and insurance companies being in favor of abortions, that’s a great financial move. It’s far cheaper to pay for an abortion than a birth and medical care of a dependent.
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06-25-2022, 07:09 AM #75
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06-25-2022, 07:11 AM #76
check out the list, i looked into this a few years back....www.plannedparenthood.org/get-care/our-services
There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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06-25-2022, 07:24 AM #77
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06-25-2022, 07:37 AM #78
Many will disagree with you, I am one.
Tell that to the less fortunate woman who lives in a state that bans abortion and she can't afford to go elsewhere. A month ago she had a safety net of safe healthcare with regards to abortion. Now she has nothing. Basically her options are illegal abortion or have the baby. Color it any way you want. She lost that right to safe healthcare as far as abortion is concerned.
It's the woman's body and her choice, she is the one who has to carry it for 9 months, a mans contribution to this baby took only a few minutes.
I am not all about aborting babies..
What I am about is it being the woman's decision in concert with her health care provide and family if applicable. That will be taken away in some states.
A huge step backwards imo. I hope women take to the streets and revolt in a huge way.Air Force Veteran 1976 - 1999 - Cannabis Enthusiast since the 1960's
Retired at 40 Crew - Social distancing expert - Living the Dream
I use the gender neutral pronouns "Fukker/Fukkers" a lot.
****** I don't always agree with the memes I post ******
I tell it like it is, if you want smoke blown up your ass or something sugar coated. I suggest you get a Hooker and a powdered donut.
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06-25-2022, 07:50 AM #79
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06-25-2022, 08:03 AM #80Air Force Veteran 1976 - 1999 - Cannabis Enthusiast since the 1960's
Retired at 40 Crew - Social distancing expert - Living the Dream
I use the gender neutral pronouns "Fukker/Fukkers" a lot.
****** I don't always agree with the memes I post ******
I tell it like it is, if you want smoke blown up your ass or something sugar coated. I suggest you get a Hooker and a powdered donut.
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06-25-2022, 08:10 AM #81
Great points.
I listened to a few channels discuss this topic last night and *availability with few resources* was the major theme.
Getting from city A to city B when you realize at 6 weeks , oh chit pregnant, now wtf do i do?
and then politically
"'This is a losing issue': GOP campaign consultants panicked about upcoming midterms after Roe decision."There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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06-25-2022, 08:20 AM #82
Yep, this is something most don't think about.. Very valid..
Trump set this up by stacking the Supreme Court, it may backfire somewhat though. The support coming from other states and corporations is surprising and probably something most didn't count on.Air Force Veteran 1976 - 1999 - Cannabis Enthusiast since the 1960's
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I use the gender neutral pronouns "Fukker/Fukkers" a lot.
****** I don't always agree with the memes I post ******
I tell it like it is, if you want smoke blown up your ass or something sugar coated. I suggest you get a Hooker and a powdered donut.
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06-25-2022, 08:30 AM #83
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06-25-2022, 08:37 AM #84
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06-25-2022, 09:05 AM #85
Fun fact for ya Tater
I performed a Madonna song on stage in front of several hundred people and got a great applause.
I went to see a hypnotist show, he asked me and a bunch of others to be participants. He had me doing all kinds of Sh!t, one of those things was dancing around on stage spanking my own ass and singing Madonna songs. I don't recall doing any of it, but they videotaped it and I had a copy of it for years. The missus wore it out showing it to everyone she could.Air Force Veteran 1976 - 1999 - Cannabis Enthusiast since the 1960's
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I use the gender neutral pronouns "Fukker/Fukkers" a lot.
****** I don't always agree with the memes I post ******
I tell it like it is, if you want smoke blown up your ass or something sugar coated. I suggest you get a Hooker and a powdered donut.
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06-25-2022, 09:19 AM #86
Abortion is not a constitutional right. I’ve not researched state specific laws, but I’m guessing that ALL states would allow abortions as a medical necessity, just banning them as a form of birth control. It would depend on the circumstances, but there are more cost effective ways for taxpayers to pay for birth control than abortions. I don’t care either way, I’d rather see more abortions than more kids born to stupid irresponsible parents. Democrats are in control of all branches of government, so they could simply pass a federal law rather than relying on the courts to dictate federal policy.
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06-25-2022, 09:24 AM #87
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06-25-2022, 09:40 AM #88
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06-25-2022, 09:41 AM #89Air Force Veteran 1976 - 1999 - Cannabis Enthusiast since the 1960's
Retired at 40 Crew - Social distancing expert - Living the Dream
I use the gender neutral pronouns "Fukker/Fukkers" a lot.
****** I don't always agree with the memes I post ******
I tell it like it is, if you want smoke blown up your ass or something sugar coated. I suggest you get a Hooker and a powdered donut.
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06-25-2022, 09:50 AM #90
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