The one thing that I don't want in a plate is any flat outside edges. Well , a second thing also, I want the diameter to be standard.
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Thread: What makes a good iron plate?
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05-11-2016, 08:37 AM #91
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05-11-2016, 08:47 AM #92
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05-11-2016, 08:58 AM #93
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05-11-2016, 09:08 AM #94
Grips that hands fit in. Revolver grips look good but I prefer the omezs for usability.
Accurate. Round. Symmetric. I do not like the York G2 look.
Easy to slide on/off a bar, but without much slop.
I do not like ugly branding/large lettering in a contrasting color that visually sticks out. People only like that if the brand is long established and they have some emotional attachment to it.
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05-11-2016, 09:20 AM #95
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05-11-2016, 09:21 AM #96
I just bought some Intek grip plates, I like the grip design, the hole tolerance, I wish they had standard OD and more of a flat to sit on the ground.
But, the accuracy is terrible. So bad that I need to keep track of them. I am not sure I will keep them because of the effort needed to keep the weight totals straight. IMO, if its too hard to make a 45lb plate, you should not be in the weight plate making business.
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05-11-2016, 09:34 AM #97
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05-11-2016, 09:47 AM #98
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I like seeing the conversation range widely for this topic. Sometimes I learn things, or learn about a product people want that isn't offered. My ideas of what to offer evolve based on the conversation here combined with what I know sells, so it's definitely helpful.
I don't have anything to show yet for designs because when it comes to overseas manufacturing, you've got 3 options:
1) You can buy something "off the shelf" that they have already made or already have designs for.
2) You can customize a design they have and tell them what to change.
3) You can create something new and get them to make whatever you want.
I'm not sure what option we'll do for plates. They'll probably have the basic shape of the plate, but it looks like the details matter if we want to create something that is known for quality. The comparison between the two plates you showed is interesting. I'm guessing they would grind these plates down by hand to make them look as nice as those revolvers. Then the powder-coating is something we'd have to experiment with too.
I might post some pictures of off-the-shelf designs and see what you guys would change. Sometimes it's not even the design, it's getting them to adhere to the quality standards you set.
Yeah it's tricky.
My thoughts as well, but the basic standard quoted overseas is 2%, and even that is optimistic. To get a better tolerance, you have to pay more and work with a factory that has its **** together with capability to match whatever standard you want. Unless you want to pay through the nose, your plates won't be exact, but they can be close enough that most people won't care if they're a few ounces off here and there.www.repfitness.com - Gym equipment manufacturer.
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Its all about the $$ gentlemen. Obviously it's cheaper to dump out of the mold into a box than it is to weigh and correct each plate. A 45# plate that is 44-46# is not going to cause me grief either way.....unless I paid big $ for it.
I've had cheap plates from .60# to free, all of them were reasonably close. If you want to know what they weigh a bathroom scale will get you close. You can then either replace, pair accordingly, correct with fractional plates, or not worry about it.
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05-11-2016, 11:04 AM #101
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05-11-2016, 11:29 AM #102
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05-11-2016, 11:36 AM #103
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05-11-2016, 11:47 AM #104
I just keep track and add 2 x 1.25 platemates, and my bar is light, to get me up to the next 5lb increment.
I got tired of using a bathroom scale, it weighs me consistently, but I don't have much confidence in it weighing the plates accurately or repeat ably. So I bought this scale, it is fast, easy and repeats the readings everytime.
http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh..._detailpages00
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05-11-2016, 01:34 PM #106
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Holding strong on my stance, deep dish old school plates with rounded lip. Have your marketing team focus on product differentiation, creating another grip or boring 'CAP' style plate will just get lost in the wake of all the junk out there. Power systems is too boring and Troy's bloated underlined logo leaves me feeling soft. Something unique, old school, possibly even bare steel with a unique patina instead of cheap paint. With a spray bottle and the right chemicals this could be done in house, order bare steel plates from China and by the time it crosses the sea it will be partially rusted to hep with the process anyway.
Think the one on the left only darker brown/black....
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05-11-2016, 03:26 PM #109
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05-11-2016, 05:00 PM #110
It would be fun to see. And the feedback might help you pick.
As long as they don't have sharp edges, either is fine with me. Are you concerned about the plates breaking or slop? If they fit the bar well, wobbly plates shouldn't be an issue either way. And I think the durability should be ok. The radius on the Ivanko revolvers is actually pretty close to the radius on the old deep dish York plates. I like both of those plate designs. I also like the Ivanko OM and 80s Yorks with flat (but not sharp) edges. With a grip plate, a radiused edge will be more ergonomic.Last edited by morebarbell; 05-11-2016 at 05:09 PM.
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05-11-2016, 05:11 PM #111
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05-11-2016, 06:58 PM #112
That's very interesting. My rubber Inteks are all pretty spot on, even more so than my Ivanko deep dishes. I've always praised their accuracy. I have also weighed some of the urethane ones.
As far as Inteks go, they are one of the most ergonomic plates I have ever used if you want some inspiration for a grip plate. I think they are even more comfortable than Ivanko OUEZ imo.
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05-11-2016, 09:34 PM #114
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if money were unlimited and i was going to buy brand new plates i'd be debating between intek urethane and OMEZS
i've seen some older intek iron plates that've picked up a nice patina and they look great too...Domicron's Basement Gym and Fun House
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05-12-2016, 04:36 AM #115
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05-12-2016, 05:50 AM #116
Very compelling. I enjoyed the part where you added the arrows for educational purpose.
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i'm curious how you guys think the newer ivanko plates with the hammertone ages. the ones i've seen are a lot like my plates. it eventually starts chipping looks a little patchy and stuff. curious if you guys would bother knocking the rest of it off to try and let them pick up natural patina or repaint them or what?
i don't mind the look of them, and kind of appreciate that they're well broken in. just curious.
well there's that at least...sucks about being lost though. maybe some of the tossers didn't like moving them around?Domicron's Basement Gym and Fun House
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