I'm 5'7-5'8 playing football. I weigh 158 lbs and bench 200 lbs. I squat 305 lbs. I'm 17-18% body fat and I need to shed some of that off to paly receiver/safety/corner. Tips please? What to do? I only have 3 months until the summer and my goal is 375 squat(I'm a beginner lifter) and 235 on the bench. I need to be fast though and I can't be too flabby(which I am)
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05-17-2016, 07:47 PM #1
Football player, I have to lose fat
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05-18-2016, 08:44 AM #2
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First. Why do you need to lose fat? You're pretty light as it is. If you want to be fast you need to work on your speed and 17-18% fat isn't that fatty. Fat is lost through caloric deficit to TDEE which means you're not going to be increasing muscle mass with your weight training. Strength sure, but gaining 75lbs to your squat is going to be a stretch in 3 months. I'd also ask if at age 16 you're getting proper depth on your 305 squat or it's a typical high school, quartersquat, ego lift. (Note: I'm not saying this is you, perhaps you're an outlier)
Regardless, it sounds like your goal is speed. Work on that. Losing fat isn't going to make you faster if you're not putting in the time to improve your speed via drills and training.
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05-18-2016, 09:07 AM #3
Get strong, build muscle, gain lean mass. Fat will automatically reduce. Eat quilty foods and eat lots of it. Find out your caloric intake needed to maintain body weight (online calculators are usually close enough) and add 500 calories to that. I know I know, you "wanna lose fat" and get those sick killer abs that make the girls swoon. But at 5'9 abs at 150 will make you look like a meth addict most likely. Gain weight, eat right., become a good football player, get strong as hell and looks and leaness will follow.
"Once more into the fray
Into the last good fight ill ever know...
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05-18-2016, 05:40 PM #4
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05-27-2016, 06:48 AM #20
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I'm flattered that you dug so deeply into where I live. Sadly, I've lived all over the country including the SF Bay Area (grew up there), lived in Seattle area for 7 years, New Orleans, Dallas for 4 years. I also played at a large classification high school way back in the day, so yeah, I think I know a little something about it. Regardless of size of high school, teenagers just aren't normally that big. The big ones are outliers.
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05-27-2016, 08:42 AM #21
When you have schools with 4K to 5K in those states there will be several D1 or D2 size players on the field. With all the places you've lived you should know that.
That was my original post if you go back and read it. More than just outliers. It's probably been awhile since you've seen a big time high school program now. You'd be surprised .
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05-27-2016, 10:14 AM #22
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I think it's cute that you have a lock on "big time high school football," like that's overall important to the discussion in age where we can look up rosters and see reported sizes. Outliers in general are still outliers. Generalizing based on outliers is specious at best, nor is it really relevant.
Further, you talk about 6A high schools in CA. Divisions in CA don't work like TX. Division VI-AA in CA are small schools. In fact, for the 2015 season CA expanded 5 divisions (D I - IV + Open) to 13 divisions (with two open divisions). Not that I particularly care, but if you want to take a look at who won the DII-AA division it may be interesting to you since you seemed to have an issue with someone from a town of 6000 like Loomis.
Bottom line, I don't get a woody over high school football like some folks do. I'm just here to help kids and a lot of ridiculous outliers get thrown around and create unrealistic situations for young athletes. Maybe OP will never play a down of high school football. Maybe he'll play D1 or pro ball. Perhaps he'll pop up at a D3 or NAIA program in college. In this thread we had a kid asking about losing fat and it turned into "THEREZ BIG AZZ DUDES OUT THERE N HIGH SKOOL BROS" because one kid doesn't know what he's talking about.
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05-27-2016, 12:39 PM #23
dafuq.
dont talk to me like that *******.
i asked a simple question that had no content that could offend you in any way.
still u say i have no knowledge of training...
the workout programs i designed are very sound and build on principles i learned from famous coaches..
but i guess u know more than them since you are some random dude on the internet that laughs at other people getting injured. poverty human being.
how's my advice in any way wrong? because I am injured my advice is not legit? knowledge dissipates with injury, is that correct?
u have no respect or honor. smh. leave, pls.Basic Football / Sports Training Guide:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=172545001
Train smart.
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05-27-2016, 01:21 PM #24
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Meh. I wouldn't let him get you all butthurt and two no avis getting all pissy at each other about unknown workout programs is a bit silly. As silly as Captain Coolguy the high school football expert. Know that he was more likely trying to send a dig at me, not you.
If only this were true:
Guess he couldn't really stay away. Too much high school football to talk about.
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05-27-2016, 02:42 PM #26
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The point of my no avi comment was that you're both fully anonymous so it really shouldn't matter. It's not a low blow, it's just a fact. You're both anonymous and he has no idea of how you train. But hey, he's a big high school football buff that doesn't know as much as he thinks he knows, so he has that going for him.
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05-27-2016, 04:21 PM #30
I play football in PA. Most of the guys really aren't that big, the average is probably 5'9-5'11 for varsity players. So, at 5'8, it is not big enough to make a difference. And being short can be an advantage, as I can make up for it by taking them out from below. This is where they are most vulnerable. I also make up for it with speed and agility - something Darren Sproles and Tavon Austin are prime examples of.
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