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    Apparently it's nothing new.
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    Originally Posted by Turtora View Post
    intredasting
    There were posts about it on other forums 5+ years ago. I remember thinking it was like a PL inside joke. Never seen actual pictures until now.
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    It's all over outlaws. Kroc was answering questions, so if you want to hear it from him straight, go read up.

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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    It's all over outlaws. Kroc was answering questions, so if you want to hear it from him straight, go read up.
    I think they deleted the thread.
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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    It's all over outlaws. Kroc was answering questions, so if you want to hear it from him straight, go read up.
    Can't find thread. Oh well. Didn't see that one coming. He certainly has lead an interesting life.

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    Ah, so they did.

    I honestly think transgender-ism should be treated as a mental disorder and not as a sexual orientation or gender issue, but that's just me and maybe we shouldn't open that can of worms.

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    I don't know much about transgender-ism, and don't really care much about it either. If people want to identify as a tree, then identify as a tree. Don't expect me to not think you're a ****ing weirdo and not ever really interact with you though.
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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    Ah, so they did.

    I honestly think transgender-ism should be treated as a mental disorder and not as a sexual orientation or gender issue, but that's just me and maybe we shouldn't open that can of worms.
    Already opened just a few pages back lol.

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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    Ah, so they did.

    I honestly think transgender-ism should be treated as a mental disorder and not as a sexual orientation or gender issue, but that's just me and maybe we shouldn't open that can of worms.
    It's essentially the result of an artificial bifurcation between sex and gender that's been going on for decades in gender studies. The idea is that sex is biological, gender is cultural and sociological.

    The problem, however, is that most people view these to be one and the same, and I'd suggest that indeed they are for most people. It is completely up to the individual whether or not he wants to accept the above bifurcation. I, for one, do not. It simply turns gender into a pretend concept: people pretend to be what they'd like to be. The silly thing is that some people try to force this upon others, especially with gender pronouns. I will just state that given their bifurcation, I'm not going to use gender pronouns. I'll use sex pronouns, pronouns that refer to one's biological sex.

    The transgender community becomes infuriated if people suggest their beliefs are anything but reality, to the point that now drag queens are banned from pride parades.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10405214.html

    The idea is that because drag queens come in and out of costume, they would offend trans people by suggesting that playing dress up is indeed nothing more than playing dress up. #ironyoftheday
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    Originally Posted by zmcdole View Post
    Wait, Kroc is a woman???
    he/she's a gender-fluid alpha male

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    Originally Posted by isaku900 View Post
    yeah, but twas 2.204 so 220 = 484.88 on the results i think...or maybe not. maybe i just screwed up.

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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    Matt Kroc?
    Yeah, pretty sure I've known about this for a long time, not sure how others are just now finding out. A quick Google search pulls up his IG crossdressing account where he's been posting pics for over a year. He had face surgery over a year ago, so yeah... not sure how people are just now noticing?
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    Yeah, pretty sure I've known about this for a long time, not sure how others are just now finding out. A quick Google search pulls up is IG crossdressing account where he's been posting pics for over a year. He had face surgery over a year ago, so yeah... not sure how people are just now noticing?
    Maybe cause I don't stalk crossdressers on IG????
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    Maybe cause I don't stalk crossdressers on IG????
    EDIT: on sprad, lol

    Oh, neither do I--I just did a quick internet search because I thought: surely this isn't news just now?

    Haven't you ever noticed he's always painted his fingernails and other stuff like that, even when in male garb??
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    Originally Posted by breathinglife View Post
    EDIT: on sprad, lol

    Oh, neither do I--I just did a quick internet search because I thought: surely this isn't news just now?

    Haven't you ever noticed he's always painted his fingernails and other stuff like that, even when in male garb??
    Honestly I never saw that. I guess we all learn something new everyday lol.
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    You're right 2.204 is the conversion factor
    some programs and kilo conversion charts use 2.2046 though, so you get confuzzled rankings when lifting is done in kilos and rankings are listed in pounds.

    Kroc's transgender/genderfluid/etc stuff has been an "open secret" for...what 8 years? I think I heard about it when I was in my 2nd or 3rd year powerlifting, so 08/09?

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    Originally Posted by breathinglife View Post
    Yeah, pretty sure I've known about this for a long time, not sure how others are just now finding out. A quick Google search pulls up his IG crossdressing account where he's been posting pics for over a year. He had face surgery over a year ago, so yeah... not sure how people are just now noticing?
    Whoa that is a mind blow. I had no idea he was a cross dresser/transgender.
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    Honestly I never saw that. I guess we all learn something new everyday lol.
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    Originally Posted by isaku900 View Post
    some programs and kilo conversion charts use 2.2046 though, so you get confuzzled rankings when lifting is done in kilos and rankings are listed in pounds.

    Kroc's transgender/genderfluid/etc stuff has been an "open secret" for...what 8 years? I think I heard about it when I was in my 2nd or 3rd year powerlifting, so 08/09?

    edit: the "just noticing now" stuff is like anything on the internet you get a new crop of youngsters who go searching around on the net you get
    "TDIL ed coan = G.O.A.T!?!?!?"
    Yeah, weird to me that people didn't know since I generally stay out of powerlifting gossip and I knew about it. Maybe I heard it at the PL gym in my area; all those guys can do is talk about the juiciest new rumors.
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    Originally Posted by breathinglife View Post
    Yeah, weird to me that people didn't know since I generally stay out of powerlifting gossip and I knew about it. Maybe I heard it at the PL gym in my area; all those guys can do is talk about the juiciest new rumors.
    *shrug* It shouldn't surprise me I guess.

    After all I just helped out at a charity powerlifting meet run by a couple of 22-23 year olds and they didn't know that they needed to provide chalk...because they had never competed...but were hosting a powerlifting meet.

    Everyone needs to learn something for a first time I suppose.
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    Originally Posted by isaku900 View Post
    *shrug* It shouldn't surprise me I guess.

    After all I just helped out at a charity powerlifting meet run by a couple of 22-23 year olds and they didn't know that they needed to provide chalk...because they had never competed...but were hosting a powerlifting meet.

    Everyone needs to learn something for a first time I suppose.
    lel I've been to a few meets like that. At one meet I was lifting and I had to spot Ray Williams on an 800 squat because they didn't have any spotters or people to run the monolift. My friend ran the mono, and I was the back spotter, and then two guys from the gym were sidespotters.
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    Originally Posted by 308smk View Post
    Ah, so they did.

    I honestly think transgender-ism should be treated as a mental disorder and not as a sexual orientation or gender issue, but that's just me and maybe we shouldn't open that can of worms.
    agreed

    and no hate, no attacking, no personal attacks to them etc. but I think we're(or, you guys) way better off keeping that mentality than going around claiming how all of them are brave or whatever


    also since I think it's a mental/social issue I'd personally treat the people with more care, rather than attacking them...some with gays, junkies etc. - but hey this propbably makes me a homophobe or a transophobe..

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    Originally Posted by breathinglife View Post
    lel I've been to a few meets like that. At one meet I was lifting and I had to spot Ray Williams on an 800 squat because they didn't have any spotters or people to run the monolift. My friend ran the mono, and I was the back spotter, and then two guys from the gym were sidespotters.
    yeah...those meets suck.
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    You're right 2.204 is the conversion factor
    I always convert with Google since it uses the correct conversion factor. Type 1kg in lbs into Google and it tells you 1kg = 2.20462lbs.

    Does it really matter that much? Nah, but I'll take the extra 1lb you get after 220kg.

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    Whoa that is a mind blow. I had no idea he was a cross dresser/transgender.
    This is news to me as well. Don't really follow him that much.

    Originally Posted by isaku900 View Post
    *shrug* It shouldn't surprise me I guess.

    After all I just helped out at a charity powerlifting meet run by a couple of 22-23 year olds and they didn't know that they needed to provide chalk...because they had never competed...but were hosting a powerlifting meet.

    Everyone needs to learn something for a first time I suppose.
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    Originally Posted by Daemonium View Post
    This is news to me as well. Don't really follow him that much.



    Aint dat sumpn.
    Yeah it's a mond blow to me also, especially after seeing his IG account.
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    agreed

    and no hate, no attacking, no personal attacks to them etc. but I think we're(or, you guys) way better off keeping that mentality than going around claiming how all of them are brave or whatever


    also since I think it's a mental/social issue I'd personally treat the people with more care, rather than attacking them...some with gays, junkies etc. - but hey this propbably makes me a homophobe or a transophobe..
    Yes, we absolutely should treat such people with kindness across the board. This becomes a problem, however, when they demand to be treated the same as another sex in public facilities.

    It's quite relevant to the gym-going community. Transgender men have in some places insisted on using the women's locker room. One woman complained because a man in women's clothes was using the women's locker room at a Planet Fitness, and they revoked her membership:
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/07/living...gender-member/

    Now, part of the problem is that many, many "transgender men" still identify as being attracted to women--Matt Kroc and Bruce Jenner are two prime examples. My wife certainly won't feel comfortable changing in locker room at a gym where transgender men are allowed to walk it whenever they like and take a gander at the women there.
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    Originally Posted by breathinglife View Post
    Yeah, pretty sure I've known about this for a long time, not sure how others are just now finding out. A quick Google search pulls up his IG crossdressing account where he's been posting pics for over a year. He had face surgery over a year ago, so yeah... not sure how people are just now noticing?
    I met him/her at the Arnold in 2013

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    Originally Posted by breathinglife View Post
    Yes, we absolutely should treat such people with kindness across the board. This becomes a problem, however, when they demand to be treated the same as another sex in public facilities.

    It's quite relevant to the gym-going community. Transgender men have in some places insisted on using the women's locker room. One woman complained because a man in women's clothes was using the women's locker room at a Planet Fitness, and they revoked her membership:
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/07/living...gender-member/

    Now, part of the problem is that many, many "transgender men" still identify as being attracted to women--Matt Kroc and Bruce Jenner are two prime examples. My wife certainly won't feel comfortable changing in locker room at a gym where transgender men are allowed to walk it whenever they like and take a gander at the women there.
    of course, it brings a lot of complications along...most of your guys problems kind of come from trying to ''treat everybody the same'' and having that weird ''accept everyone as beautiful'' crap - apart from the most basic problems, this doesn't work out well


    would be best if we all realised that we're all selfish pieces of **** and that 99% of what we do is controlled by our own ego and social surrounding - then do the best from that, rather than living in quasi wonderland

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