Will you get vaccinated?

[mtpockets]

[xTeTe]

Hopefully by the time I'm eligible I'll be able to locate whatever locations are giving the J and J vaccine.

[x-trainer ben]

Just remember that the FDA, that has approved these vaccines for emergency use only, told the American public for almost 40 years, that dietary cholesterol was harmful and could lead to heart disease and a bunch of other health problems with no facts to back that up.

Nearly 40 years of telling a flat out lie.

They finally stopped the bull**** about 6 years ago.

Prior to that the "science was settled" and if you thought eating eggs every day was perfectly fine you'd have been laughed at.

This BS spawned such things as egg-white omelets and "no yolk" egg noodles and prompted food manufacturers to put "NO CHOLESTEROL" in big bold letters on products like french fries that never would have any cholesterol in them anyway.

40 years of lies with no facts...

But I'm sure they're right about this.

Flex, I just wish we had some ***predictive data*** to assure us that getting this thing won't cause some serious long term damage.
Yes it is mostly old and high bmi people that get wrecked, but surely you know some fit ones( i do) too that are still recovering weeks and months later.
In some people yes it is just a simple flu, kinda, in others it is a freaking wrecking ball.

How can super fit cardio people go from marathons to struggling weeks/months after covid?
chit is baffling.....

[_zman]

Just remember that the FDA, that has approved these vaccines for emergency use only, told the American public for almost 40 years, that dietary cholesterol was harmful and could lead to heart disease and a bunch of other health problems with no facts to back that up.

Nearly 40 years of telling a flat out lie.

They finally stopped the bull**** about 6 years ago.

Prior to that the "science was settled" and if you thought eating eggs every day was perfectly fine you'd have been laughed at.

This BS spawned such things as egg-white omelets and "no yolk" egg noodles and prompted food manufacturers to put "NO CHOLESTEROL" in big bold letters on products like french fries that never would have any cholesterol in them anyway.

40 years of lies with no facts...

But I'm sure they're right about this.

LOL agreed. Just lol at the FDA in general. Michalel Pollan's book is pretty eye opening about the FDA. https://michaelpollan.com/books/in-defense-of-food/

[Plateauplower]

Flex, I just wish we had some ***predictive data*** to assure us that getting this thing won't cause some serious long term damage.
Yes it is mostly old and high bmi people that get wrecked, but surely you know some fit ones( i do) too that are still recovering weeks and months later.
In some people yes it is just a simple flu, kinda, in others it is a freaking wrecking ball.

How can super fit cardio people go from marathons to struggling weeks/months after covid?
chit is baffling.....

Individual's choices, the whole "my body my choice" applies.

Genetic factors are the most likely reason for seemingly healthy people having negative outcomes while others even with significant comorbidities are barely affected. I'd be more inclined to get vaxxed if I wasn't sure I already had it. Would probably have been a little more concerned about my own health if that were the case as well...

[LWW]

I demand the Senate strip and fork over Brando’s green skittles to me for reparations due to his incorrect incrimation of me and his lack of knowledge of the basics!!!!!!!!!

[Gabbar99]

Just remember that the FDA, that has approved these vaccines for emergency use only, told the American public for almost 40 years, that dietary cholesterol was harmful and could lead to heart disease and a bunch of other health problems with no facts to back that up.

Not this sh*t again. High cholesterol food do lead to heart disease and health problems. It's one of the best established connections in medical science. It's not as bad or as direct as it was spun to be at one point, but the high-fat-low-carb conspiracy kooks making money by claiming all science is a nefarious pro-vegan plot are just plain lying.

Science: dietary LDL cholesterol is bad for your heart

Kooks: OMG! An egg will kill you! Meat is the devil. It's all a big lie by the $100 billion dollar a year beef industry.

Opportunists: buy my book and have this low-cholesterol junk food

Science: it's not quite as bad as all that

Kooks: OMG! You lied to us! All credentialed and salaried scientists are corrupt idiots. Only trust info from non-scientists who make money by how many books and supplements they sell you.

Opportunists: Buy my book and buy this high-cholesterol junk food


I have no idea what dietary cholesterol has to do with the Covid vaccine.
(edit: actually, there are kooks claiming that high cholesterol will protect you from Covid, because cholesterol is the best and there's nothing it can't do)

[Gabbar99]

It's a matter of trusting them.

They themselves said dietary cholesterol was bad for 40 years. They stopped saying that. Because it's not true.

High blood cholesterol is still bad. Dietary saturated fat, which correlates with dietary cholesterol and leads to high blood cholesterol, is still bad. Dietary cholesterol is not the direct factor, but limiting dietary cholesterol would still get you where you want to go.

It's not like THEY WERE LYING FOR 40 YEARS AND THEN SUDDENLY CHANGED.

Like everything else in science, it's more nuanced and more iterative than a simple slogan can convey.

And it's very likely not the same "they" for cholesterol as for vaccines.

[LWW]

My father thinks too many eggs are bad cause he thinks the guy on the news is correct.

Wat he doesn’t see is they will link eggs with the typical westerner who eats junk food, smokes, drinks, and eats processed fast food eggs etc because eggs are a staple in that diet.

Eggs alone are the greatest most healthiest food for many people. The Sparticous political guy is a speaking incorrectly about having eggs, he must of ate a McDonalds sammich.

[Cass40]

My father thinks too many eggs are bad cause he thinks the guy on the news is correct.

Wat he doesn’t see is they will link eggs with the typical westerner who eats junk food, smokes, drinks, and eats processed fast food eggs etc because eggs are a staple in that diet.

Eggs alone are the greatest most healthiest food for many people. The Sparticous political guy is a speaking incorrectly about having eggs, he must of ate a McDonalds sammich.

Yes we know.

[mtpockets]

My father thinks too many eggs are bad cause he thinks the guy on the news is correct.

Wat he doesn’t see is they will link eggs with the typical westerner who eats junk food, smokes, drinks, and eats processed fast food eggs etc because eggs are a staple in that diet.

Eggs alone are the greatest most healthiest food for many people. The Sparticous political guy is a speaking incorrectly about having eggs, he must of ate a McDonalds sammich.

[supramax]

Not this sh*t again. High cholesterol food do lead to heart disease and health problems. It's one of the best established connections in medical science. It's not as bad or as direct as it was spun to be at one point, but the high-fat-low-carb conspiracy kooks making money by claiming all science is a nefarious pro-vegan plot are just plain lying.

Science: dietary LDL cholesterol is bad for your heart

Kooks: OMG! An egg will kill you! Meat is the devil. It's all a big lie by the $100 billion dollar a year beef industry.

Opportunists: buy my book and have this low-cholesterol junk food

Science: it's not quite as bad as all that

Kooks: OMG! You lied to us! All credentialed and salaried scientists are corrupt idiots. Only trust info from non-scientists who make money by how many books and supplements they sell you.

Opportunists: Buy my book and buy this high-cholesterol junk food


I have no idea what dietary cholesterol has to do with the Covid vaccine.
(edit: actually, there are kooks claiming that high cholesterol will protect you from Covid, because cholesterol is the best and there's nothing it can't do)

Made me laugh.

Repped.

[Jtbny]

It's a matter of trusting them.

They themselves said dietary cholesterol was bad for 40 years. They stopped saying that. Because it's not true.

How did they find out it wasn't true?

[mtpockets]

[PhDPepper1111]

Not this sh*t again. High cholesterol food do lead to heart disease and health problems. It's one of the best established connections in medical science. It's not as bad or as direct as it was spun to be at one point, but the high-fat-low-carb conspiracy kooks making money by claiming all science is a nefarious pro-vegan plot are just plain lying.

Science: dietary LDL cholesterol is bad for your heart

Kooks: OMG! An egg will kill you! Meat is the devil. It's all a big lie by the $100 billion dollar a year beef industry.

Opportunists: buy my book and have this low-cholesterol junk food

Science: it's not quite as bad as all that

Kooks: OMG! You lied to us! All credentialed and salaried scientists are corrupt idiots. Only trust info from non-scientists who make money by how many books and supplements they sell you.

Opportunists: Buy my book and buy this high-cholesterol junk food


I have no idea what dietary cholesterol has to do with the Covid vaccine.
(edit: actually, there are kooks claiming that high cholesterol will protect you from Covid, because cholesterol is the best and there's nothing it can't do)

Comedy Gold. On spread.

[Oceanside]

Ca's opening back up 50% tomorrow and 100% (if I'm not mistaken) mid june, so I'm not buying this crap that the vaccine isn't effective or worthwhile....

Never really been a germ freak and with all the other sh*t I've put into my body over the years in the name of recreation.......I find it kind of silly hearing people say they won't vaccinate for supposed health reasons



But that's just me.

[x-trainer ben]

Ca's opening back up 50% tomorrow and 100% (if I'm not mistaken) mid june, so I'm not buying this crap that the vaccine isn't effective or worthwhile....

Never really been a germ freak and with all the other sh*t I've put into my body over the years in the name of recreation.......I find it kind of silly hearing people say they won't vaccinate for supposed health reasons



But that's just me.

Amen brotha!

[Bando]

I demand the Senate strip and fork over Brando’s green skittles to me for reparations due to his incorrect incrimation of me and his lack of knowledge of the basics!!!!!!!!!

Typical Lib BS, take from the rep rich and give to the rep poor because you are a downtrodden victim.

Just remember that the FDA, that has approved these vaccines for emergency use only, told the American public for almost 40 years, that dietary cholesterol was harmful and could lead to heart disease and a bunch of other health problems with no facts to back that up.

Nearly 40 years of telling a flat out lie.

They finally stopped the bull**** about 6 years ago.

Prior to that the "science was settled" and if you thought eating eggs every day was perfectly fine you'd have been laughed at.

This BS spawned such things as egg-white omelets and "no yolk" egg noodles and prompted food manufacturers to put "NO CHOLESTEROL" in big bold letters on products like french fries that never would have any cholesterol in them anyway.

40 years of lies with no facts...

But I'm sure they're right about this.

I'm curious, do you think the 5 former US Presidents who received the vaccine actually got it or did they get a B12 shot or something to prop up the campaign to get vaxed?

I'm skeptical of a lot of gubnmn't stuff, but a scenario where an unsafe vaccine is forced upon the masses is a little too like a Stephen King novel for me.

[LWW]

Typical Lib BS, take from the rep rich and give to the rep poor because you are a downtrodden victim.



I'm curious, do you think the 5 former US Presidents who received the vaccine actually got it or did they get a B12 shot or something to prop up the campaign to get vaxed?

1st paragraph, wrong, I don’t care about your useless skittles, but I know skittles are your world around here.


2nd paragraph, possible, my gov. Got on tv during his shot and said it gave him an energy boast.

Did you get an energy boast?

[Bando]

1st paragraph, wrong, I don’t care about your useless skittles, but I know skittles are your world around here.


2nd paragraph, possible, my gov. Got on tv during his shot and said it gave him an energy boast.

Did you get an energy boast?

So a "sentence" is a string of words in the English language that begins with a capital letter and ends with a period. <-This is a sentence, not a paragraph. <-so was that

A "paragraph" would be a collection of sentences grouped to convey a point, make an argument, explain something etc.

[Cass40]

1st paragraph, wrong, I don’t care about your useless skittles, but I know skittles are your world around here.


2nd paragraph, possible, my gov. Got on tv during his shot and said it gave him an energy boast.

Did you get an energy boast?

Yeah it's like giving free donuts. Here lil kid, take your medicine and you'll get a treat.

The closest Krispy Cream is five miles away

[LWW]

So a "sentence" is a string of words in the English language that begins with a capital letter and ends with a period. <-This is a sentence, not a paragraph. <-so was that

A "paragraph" would be a collection of sentences grouped to convey a point, make an argument, explain something etc.

OK, you are right.

Now admit you are not right about DOMS, and answer the question. Did you get an energy boast from the shot?

[Cass40]

OK, you are right.

Now admit you are not right about DOMS, and answer the question. Did you get an energy boast from the shot?

Your governor was just joking about the energy boast.

[LWW]

Your governor was just joking about the energy boast.

So you didn't get an energy boast? How do you know, why would he joke about that? He said it with a straight face.

Where is Bando, he hiding?

[Cass40]

So you didn't get an energy boast? How do you know, why would he joke about that? He said it with a straight face.

Where is Bando, he hiding?

What does Bando have I don't?

And no I don't think I got anymore boastful than the usual narcissistic self that I am. Low energy boasting if you will..

[ChazWood]

What does Bando have I don't?

And no I don't think I got anymore boastful than the usual narcissistic self that I am. Low energy boasting if you will..

I dont consider you a narcissist, but more like a finnissist.

The cold weather there definitely had an influence on you'z all there, and some more than others.

[Bando]

OK, you are right.

Now admit you are not right about DOMS, and answer the question. Did you get an energy boast from the shot?

You're starting to get boring and risking getting back on my ignore list.

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Another thing after the vaccine is my taste and smell is "off"

With taste, my wife likes to make new dishes but I asked to just have some of the same old same old, hard to explain but eating a perfectly broiled steak tonight was just kind of a chore. On Monday I stopped at our local pizza shop and they had a fresh sausage and pepperoni just out of the oven for slices. The owner was trained in Italy, they use Grande cheese, blah blah blah, anyway, just a 10/10 slice of pizza.

It was like I could have eaten dollar store Ramen and been as happy. I'm not sure if the edge is off of my appetite or what, but some of the pleasure in eating is missing.

For smell, I walked out today and all I could smell was pool chemicals, neighbors shocked their pool a week ago, not sure why I'm so sensitive to it a week later.

[LWW]

You're starting to get boring and risking getting back on my ignore list.

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LOL, now you asked for it.......

At least I can squat a light weight, and rack that mofo on my own!

Hiding behind grammer, this is a BB site.

[Paul Kreul]

Ca's opening back up 50% tomorrow and 100% (if I'm not mistaken) mid june, so I'm not buying this crap that the vaccine isn't effective or worthwhile....

Never really been a germ freak and with all the other sh*t I've put into my body over the years in the name of recreation.......I find it kind of silly hearing people say they won't vaccinate for supposed health reasons



But that's just me.

SARS-COV-2 will not/cannot be contained or eradicated. What is going on right now, is known in epidemiology as the pathogen endemic equilibrium phase, (viral stasis) and is perfectly normal. Virulence weakening and dilution is what always happens when mutations and naturally acquired herd immunity is occurring throughout the populations. Invariably mutation causes infection rate increase ( seasonality still being the biggest factor) and lethality rate decrease, henceforth it becomes ubiquitous and permanent. Vaccination at this stage is essentially pointless.

[ChazWood]

SARS-COV-2 will not/cannot be contained or eradicated. What is going on right now, is known in epidemiology as the pathogen endemic equilibrium phase, (viral stasis) and is perfectly normal. Virulence weakening and dilution is what always happens when mutations and naturally acquired herd immunity is occurring throughout the populations. Invariably mutation causes infection rate increase ( seasonality still being the biggest factor) and lethality rate decrease, henceforth it becomes ubiquitous and permanent. Vaccination at this stage is essentially pointless.

OK, but if I get sick and die of Covid, then I'm coming back as a really annoying ghost to haunt your ass until your dying breath.

and if I just get really sick I'll neg you.