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03-01-2021, 06:41 PM #31
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03-01-2021, 06:54 PM #32
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03-01-2021, 07:36 PM #33
Idk if they did or not, but whenever I have been to 50s style diners, they usually have PB burgers and vanilla/chocolate coke as some of the specialty items.
This local place makes their burgers out of 50/50 bacon to ground beef, and they actually have a PB&J burger. I’ve never got that one as it sounds too sweet to me.
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03-01-2021, 08:11 PM #34
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03-01-2021, 09:10 PM #35
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03-01-2021, 10:12 PM #36
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03-02-2021, 05:30 AM #37
I mean, id feel like **** constantly and it probably wouldn't do your skin any favors, but if you track the macros, and don't OVER EAT, I am sure you could be okay like any other bulk. I would just feel like garbage.
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03-02-2021, 06:18 AM #38
Not necessarily. Individual genetics, the amount of PUFA, MUFA and TFA, the amount of soluble fiber also matter. Heck even the amount of stearic acid, palmitic acid etc. matter.
The 10% and 5% recommendations came from WHO. While they're not perfect I still consider them useful to give people broad guidelines.
Why is it ok for someone on 3k calories to eat more SF than someone on 2k when, regardless of total intake, more SF is worse for blood lipids.
I mean I know that someone on higher cals can get more of the other "heart healthy" fats and Omega 3s, but doesn't raising SF raise LDL regardless of how many other healthy fats are in your diet?
Ik there's at least one study I've read that backs you up on this, but I'm very skeptical of this idea. Why would the levels of SF, all other things being equal, result in more fat gain? Did they actually control for overall fat intake, protein, carbs, etc.?
For me the data is compelling enough to recommend against overfeeding on SFA. YMMV.
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03-02-2021, 07:53 AM #39
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03-02-2021, 08:01 AM #40
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03-02-2021, 08:48 AM #41
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03-02-2021, 10:24 AM #42
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I think it's also worthwhile to keep in mind that some of the negative effects from certain foods don't appear in the short term, like the increased risk of colon cancer from red meats (especially cooked at higher temps), whereas other things like LDL levels can skyrocket after even a couple days after consuming a high sat fat or high cholesterol diet.
I've always been baffled at my own responses to various foods in terms of blood lipids.
Eggs, for example, even matched for total cholesterol content always jack my LDL up much more than, say, equivalent amounts of fish, dairy, chicken, shrimp...
I'm not even sure if sat fat increases tend to mess me up, but it would be interesting to know. Generally, tho, i'm getting 15g or less of sat fat a day on average, so it's not like i'm even approaching 10% of total intake.
Funny enough, my total and ldl cholesterol levels seem to top-out at around 200 for the total and about 115 for LDL no matter what I do... I recall one time even when I was drinking like 2-3 days a week in moderate amounts, not doing cardio, and held closer to 17-18% BF, my LDL never exceed 115 even when I was hungover and consumed a massive meal of mushroom/swiss burger and french fries like 9 hours prior to the test.
Once I cut out eggs and red meat tho, and stop drinking alcohol, it simply never gets over 100 from what I've seen, and typically ranges from 80-90.
I think the genetic component to longevity is very fascinating too, because my grandmother on my dad's side had one of the WORST diets I have ever seen in terms of what the science indicates nowadays, and yet she lived to 85 years old. So who knows, maybe I could get away with more than I think. But, i'd rathe not risk it."When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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03-02-2021, 10:48 AM #43
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03-02-2021, 10:50 AM #44
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Low tolerance dude
When I used to drink I could get smashed in like 4 drinks.
In the case I mentioned tho it was a single instance where I drank more than I usually would
I wasn’t typically getting hungover badly from 1-2 drinks.
However, even now, I can feel the effects of a single drink the next morning.
That’s why I don’t drink anymore
Kind of crazy because in college my tolerance was crazy high"When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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03-02-2021, 11:12 AM #45
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03-02-2021, 11:14 AM #46
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03-02-2021, 01:59 PM #47
Believe it or not...same...to all of this. It's kind of creeping me out. Srs. You have a great point when it comes to sat. fat vs cholesterol's impact on blood lipids. Just like you, even just a few egg yolks per week significantly increase my LDL even in the short term. Eating more sat. fat alone on the other hand, doesn't seem to make any noticeable difference at all. I do know both my parents are "cholesterol hyper-responders", as am I. I haven't eaten red meat for years and the only "meat" I eat nowadays is seafood though.
My grandmother on my dad's side smoked 2 packs per day from 12+ and by her 30s a carton (yes an entire carton) until she was 77, drinks 2 full pots of black coffee per day, has been binge drinking multiple nights per week since her teens, and rarely eats anything aside from sugary snacks like donuts and cookies. She'll have salmon and maybe green vegetables on special occasions. Meanwhile, she has great blood work and even continues to live an active lifestyle at the age of 85.
I had a srs drinking problem in the past and alcohol along with a higher sat. fat intake did nothing to impact my blood lipids. I used to be able to drink endless amounts but within the last year I've been able to get chitfaced and hungover off 4-5 drinks. A single drink will impact me the next day in terms of my stomach too. So that being said, on nights I do drink, I tend to have 4-5 lol On the plus side, it saves money on alcohol and it makes drinking any more than once per week A LOT less tempting
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03-02-2021, 02:46 PM #48
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Bro this is creepy AF, hahaha! Even down to the history with booze... we're so damn similar.
The strange thing is, I was never 'addicted' to alcohol, I just found it so easy to drink, and when I get buzzed/drunk, I honestly love how I behave socially because most of my typical anxieties just disappear. I am the opposite of an angry drunk... i'm just happy, social, and friendly to everyone.
I had issues with drinking too much, but only because of the habitual nature of the drinking process: not because I WANTED to get shytfaced. It always krept up on me unexpectedly and BOOM... I was drunk as hell. I'd go to a party in college and drink like 4 drinks within 30min... I'm just a very fast drinker, and also a fast eater as well.
I'm not sure about my mom's or dad's lipid profile, but I inherited most of my serum bio-markers and vital signs from my mom: low BP, low resting heart rate, tendency to feel cold...
My dad on the other hand has HIGH (like REALLY high) BP, high resting HR... but thankfully I got more of his height (he's 6-2, mom is like 5-1) and some other factors.
I wonder if there is a specific enzyme or something involved in metabolizing dietary cholesterol that we simply lack, or perhaps a certain KIND of cholesterol unique to eggs... because honestly it's the only consistent way i've ever had elevated LDL levels. I can have salmon, shrimp, and even poultry back when I ate it and nothing seemed to budge noticeably."When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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03-02-2021, 02:53 PM #49
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03-03-2021, 02:28 AM #50
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