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    Omnivore vs Vegan diet

    I hear a lot of people who follow the vegan lifestyle claiming that it is healthier, and more beneficial than those who choose to eat a well balanced diet that includes lean meats. What are your opinions?
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    No it's harder to get all necessary nutrients. Humans are designed to be omnivores.

    It's less effort to build a healthy diet from mixed sources.
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    No it's harder to get all necessary nutrients. Humans are designed to be omnivores.

    It's less effort to build a healthy diet from mixed sources.
    I wouldn't say we're so-much 'designed' for it, moreso that our food environment has made us far better-suited to be omnivorous in terms of efficiency of nutrition.

    It's way, way easier to get everything you need when every food is an option. Less options, less access to nutrients.

    I think for muscle-building it really comes down to amino acid content and balancing proper protein intake with a fiber and volume level you can live with and also absorb everything you need. Without meat/dairy/eggs, etc, it's harder to do and gets more boring for sure.

    One could argue that if humans absorb dietary cholesterol and see negative health outcomes from saturated fats, etc, that consuming animal products really isn't best for us, but of course a balanced approach solves this, too.

    In short, it's most likely best to eat SOME animal products for performance/health, but with the majority of calories coming from whole plant foods.
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    Originally Posted by SBB1 View Post
    I hear a lot of people who follow the vegan lifestyle claiming that it is healthier, and more beneficial than those who choose to eat a well balanced diet that includes lean meats. What are your opinions?
    I’ve also had vegans tell me that if I smudge with sage sticks it will realign my chakras and help me tune in to Jupiter. Not sure what you’re point is here.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    I wouldn't say we're so-much 'designed' for it, moreso that our food environment has made us far better-suited to be omnivorous in terms of efficiency of nutrition.

    It's way, way easier to get everything you need when every food is an option. Less options, less access to nutrients.

    I think for muscle-building it really comes down to amino acid content and balancing proper protein intake with a fiber and volume level you can live with and also absorb everything you need. Without meat/dairy/eggs, etc, it's harder to do and gets more boring for sure.

    One could argue that if humans absorb dietary cholesterol and see negative health outcomes from saturated fats, etc, that consuming animal products really isn't best for us, but of course a balanced approach solves this, too.

    In short, it's most likely best to eat SOME animal products for performance/health, but with the majority of calories coming from whole plant foods.
    If you look at the GI tract of a pure herbivore animal vs. a typical omnivore vs. a pure carnivore - we are closest to the omnivore, that was my only reasoning.
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    If you look at the GI tract of a pure herbivore animal vs. a typical omnivore vs. a pure carnivore - we are closest to the omnivore, that was my only reasoning.
    I don’t eat meat but it’s pretty true I mean a cow has 4 stomachs and can eat so much fiber us not so much also hunting /cooking and a higher absorbed protein amount allowed us to evolve with larger brains
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    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    I don’t eat meat but it’s pretty true I mean a cow has 4 stomachs and can eat so much fiber us not so much also hunting /cooking and a higher absorbed protein amount allowed us to evolve with larger brains
    Chimpanzees, our closest genetic relative, appear to consume about 6% of their diet from animal sources.
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    Originally Posted by SBB1 View Post
    I hear a lot of people who follow the vegan lifestyle claiming that it is healthier, and more beneficial than those who choose to eat a well balanced diet that includes lean meats. What are your opinions?
    People who choose to follow a certain lifestyle believes that lifestyle is superior to the alternatives. Who knew?
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Chimpanzees, our closest genetic relative, appear to consume about 6% of their diet from animal sources.
    yup and they can’t make fire, they don’t cook their food and frankly don’t go above a three year olds intellect
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    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    yup and they can’t make fire, they don’t cook their food and frankly don’t go above a three year olds intellect
    Right, Im just using the same logical directions everyone else does to make a point... I don't agree that people should or need to eat meat.
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