IIFYM Post Workout Meal by KanevskyFitness

[npcSHWchamp2016]

You're quoting IFBB pros, which actually do follow IIFYM, as they fit food into their macros. Oh yeah, should I mention that they're on certain 'illegal supplements'?

Classic.

"IFBB pros actually do follow IIFYM."

Sounds like you guys have it set up for the argument to go your way everytime lmao.

> someone eats pizza and gets fat then everyone says that he wasn't doing IIFYM properly
> someone eats clean food consistently and gets results and then everyone says "OMG LOL HE WAS DOING IIFYM THE WHOLE TIME"

[drummaboyyyy]

Oh I've never heard this one before.

I'll just have to try my best, leave no stone unturned, and we'll all see won't we?

At age 19 I thought I was big too

[Francis333]

You never said it, but I did.

ReadingComprehension101.com

WTF? I said you can fit donuts into your macros whenever you want and you said if you only eat donuts. What is your point? We are arguing two different things.

[BBqChicken1]

lol pasta is a clean food? since when?

it's no wonder your deadlift is so ****ing pathetic

get the **** out *******


oh i guess BBQChicken is the retard who thinks pasta is a clean food, still, learn to use quote tags retard

Substitute rice for pasta= same ****ing thing.

[BBqChicken1]

[Francis333]

I knew flexforall would pop up in this discussion.



Obviously these morons in here are confused...no one is suggesting you eat pop tarts 6 times a day.

If you're short on hitting them macros at the end of they then a doughnut or double cheesburger is perfectly fine. quit over thinking you *******s

This. But npcSHWchamp2016 thinks that carbs are different from donuts and oatmeal and that you CANNOT eat donuts and get shredded.

[drummaboyyyy]

Substitute rice for pasta= same ****ing thing.

Nuff nuff jiggily puff hilary duff


end of 40 page thread

[Gink]

Substitute rice for pasta= same ****ing thing.

you're ****ing stupid

rice is trash too

a clean starchy food would be a sweet potato or something rich in micronutrients

rice and pasta are both trash and just carbs with nothing else, and if it has anything it's typically because it's enriched with vitamins


hey, i heard linking steroided out *******s strengthens your IIFYM argument ***got


i wouldn't consider hamburgers etc. a dirty food because its mostly protein, but when you are talking about **** like sour patch kids and pop tarts, it's trash. if you want to overdo something it should be protein and not empty carbs

[Francis333]

[QUOTE=npcSHWchamp2016;878188561
> someone eats pizza and gets fat then everyone says that he wasn't doing IIFYM properly
[/QUOTE]

Of course he wasn't doing IIFYM properly because he got fat (unless he wanted to). It doesn't matter if he ate pizza everyday or never, he got fat because you got too many calories idiot.

[EricKanevskiy]

Speaking of Matt Ogus, here's a video of his diet approach:

[BBqChicken1]

Classic.

"IFBB pros actually do follow IIFYM."

Sounds like you guys have it set up for the argument to go your way everytime lmao.

> someone eats pizza and gets fat then everyone says that he wasn't doing IIFYM properly
> someone eats clean food consistently and gets results and then everyone says "OMG LOL HE WAS DOING IIFYM THE WHOLE TIME"

>eating too many calories over TDEE causes fat gain
>eating clean the same amount over TDEE will cause the exact same fat gains



You haven't reponded to my question.


Which diet is better for body composition and health.


Diet 1. Eating 'clean' only, consuming only rice for the whole day, every day.

Diet 2. Consuming a wide variety of foods coming from whole, unprocessed foods while meeting macro and micronutrient sufficiency with 10-20% processed foods.

[watwut]

WTF? I said you can fit donuts into your macros whenever you want and you said if you only eat donuts. What is your point? We are arguing two different things.

What the hell don't you understand, I was just stating eating nothing but jelly donuts will not get you a shredded 6 pack. I know that's not what you said. Maybe the fact that I quoted you is kind of misleading.

[Francis333]

you're ****ing stupid

rice is trash too

a clean starchy food would be a sweet potato or something rich in micronutrients

rice and pasta are both trash and just carbs with nothing else, and if it has anything it's typically because it's enriched with vitamins


hey, i heard linking steroided out *******s strengthens your IIFYM argument ***got


i wouldn't consider hamburgers etc. a dirty food because its mostly protein, but when you are talking about **** like sour patch kids and pop tarts, it's trash. if you want to overdo something it should be protein and not empty carbs

Stopped reading after that. If you get your micros then it doesn't matter what you eat. Why will noone understand this? STOP LOOKING AT INDIVIDUAL FOODS AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE: THE DIET ITSELF!

[npcSHWchamp2016]

At age 19 I thought I was big too

I genuinely consider myself small. I don't compare myself to anyone except my idols. Looking at young pics of almost all the most famous pros, I have no doubt in my mind that I can do this. Young dorian, young nasser, young phil, young ruhl... the list goes on. Genetics may limit me from a sandow, but it won't stop me from getting a pro card.

[BBqChicken1]

you're ****ing stupid

rice is trash too

a clean starchy food would be a sweet potato or something rich in micronutrients

rice and pasta are both trash and just carbs with nothing else, and if it has anything it's typically because it's enriched with vitamins


hey, i heard linking steroided out *******s strengthens your IIFYM argument ***got


i wouldn't consider hamburgers etc. a dirty food because its mostly protein, but when you are talking about **** like sour patch kids and pop tarts, it's trash. if you want to overdo something it should be protein and not empty carbs

Eating nothing but sweet potatoes will still make you deficient in protein, and other important vitamins and minerals. Your argument is invalid.


What's an 'empty carb' and why is sugar from poptarts 'bad' but sugar from 'fruit' which are 'clean somehow good?

[drummaboyyyy]

you're ****ing stupid

rice is trash too

a clean starchy food would be a sweet potato or something rich in micronutrients

rice and pasta are both trash and just carbs with nothing else, and if it has anything it's typically because it's enriched with vitamins


hey, i heard linking steroided out *******s strengthens your IIFYM argument ***got


i wouldn't consider hamburgers etc. a dirty food because its mostly protein, but when you are talking about **** like sour patch kids and pop tarts, it's trash. if you want to overdo something it should be protein and not empty carbs

lol wut?



keep believing this and stay the small ******* that you are....lol rice and pasta are trash lol lol lol

[Gink]

>eating too many calories over TDEE causes fat gain
>eating clean the same amount over TDEE will cause the exact same fat gains



You haven't reponded to my question.


Which diet is better for body composition and health.


Diet 1. Eating 'clean' only, consuming only rice for the whole day, every day.

Diet 2. Consuming a wide variety of foods coming from whole, unprocessed foods while meeting macro and micronutrient sufficiency with 10-20% processed foods.

i responded, you dodged

rice is not a clean food, sorry


and no one is advocating eating a healthy carb all day (like eating sweet potatoes), they are advocating hitting your macros AND NOT EATING ****

phuicking retard do you even lift?

lol wut?

keep believing this and stay the small ******* that you are....lol rice and pasta are trash lol lol lol

6'0", 228 lbs

get to 280 or 290 before talking retard

[BBqChicken1]

i responded, you dodged

rice is not a clean food, sorry


and no one is advocating eating a healthy carb all day (like eating sweet potatoes), they are advocating hitting your macros AND NOT EATING ****

phuicking retard do you even lift?

That's a 'clean diet' so going by the logic in this thread, diet 1 should be better than diet 2.

If 'clean diets' are better than 'IIFYM', diet 1 should win.

[npcSHWchamp2016]

>eating too many calories over TDEE causes fat gain
>eating clean the same amount over TDEE will cause the exact same fat gains



You haven't reponded to my question.


Which diet is better for body composition and health.


Diet 1. Eating 'clean' only, consuming only rice for the whole day, every day.

Diet 2. Consuming a wide variety of foods coming from whole, unprocessed foods while meeting macro and micronutrient sufficiency with 10-20% processed foods.

You're a fuckin retard if you think "eating clean" means eating only rice all day every day.

Go eat a piece of cake after "hitting your macros" and then sit in the corner crying wondering why your arms are so flabby.

[MrLegend]

i cant figure out if it's your voice, speech patterns and mannerisms that annoy me or the fact that you seriously dont look like you even lift and you still find the nerve to start a youtube fitness/nutrition channel.

[Gink]

Eating nothing but sweet potatoes will still make you deficient in protein, and other important vitamins and minerals. Your argument is invalid.

What's an 'empty carb' and why is sugar from poptarts 'bad' but sugar from 'fruit' which are 'clean somehow good?

fruit tends to have other things in it.. like a banana has potassium, fiber, etc.

empty carb = just straight carbs with no other nutritional properties


and like i said in other post, no one said eat sweet potatoes all day, just to replace **** like SOUR PATCH KIDS with HEALTHY FOOD

you people just want an excuse to eat trash, enjoy your sub par results retard

[drummaboyyyy]

i responded, you dodged

rice is not a clean food, sorry


and no one is advocating eating a healthy carb all day (like eating sweet potatoes), they are advocating hitting your macros AND NOT EATING ****

phuicking retard do you even lift?




6'0", 228 lbs

get to 280 or 290 before talking retard

no avi? 224 posts and he's got it all figured out.




inbeforered

[BBqChicken1]

You're a fuckin retard if you think "eating clean" means eating only rice all day every day.

Go eat a piece of cake after "hitting your macros" and then sit in the corner crying wondering why your arms are so flabby.

Please elaborate on why consuming a piece of cake in a diet that is rich in whole, unprocessed foods that meets your macronutrient and micronutrient needs is 'bad'.

[BBqChicken1]

fruit tends to have other things in it.. like a banana has potassium, fiber, etc.

empty carb = just straight carbs with no other nutritional properties

Doesn't matter, you have already met ALL your nutrient, potassium and fiber needs. You have 10-20% calories left and need to hit your carbs.

[Gink]

That's a 'clean diet' so going by the logic in this thread, diet 1 should be better than diet 2.

If 'clean diets' are better than 'IIFYM', diet 1 should win.

even on a clean diet you still have to pay attention to things like protein intake and fat and count macros

fact is, on a clean diet you will always get more nutrients than if you are eating processed junk which tends to be pure carbs

strong comparison skills bro, maybe in a few years you won't be so dumb

[BBqChicken1]

even on a clean diet you still have to pay attention to things like protein intake and fat and count macros

fact is, on a clean diet you will always get more nutrients than if you are eating processed junk which tends to be pure carbs

strong comparison skills bro, maybe in a few years you won't be so dumb

Again, after you have met all your micronutrient, fiber etc. needs. Any more isn't going to offer you any benefit. How is then 'processed junk' like supplements 'bad'?

[Gink]

Again, after you have met all your micronutrient, fiber etc. needs. Any more isn't going to offer you any benefit. How is then 'processed junk' like supplements 'bad'?

you are wrong, you can never have enough of protein/micronutrients when lifting

[drummaboyyyy]

Doesn't matter, you have already met ALL your nutrient, potassium and fiber needs. You have 10-20% calories left and need to hit your carbs.

He's been on here for 6 years and posted 225 times. He clearly knows what he is doing.


















































































not srs

[Francis333]

Speaking of Matt Ogus, here's a video of his diet approach:

Do you agree with Ogus, Eric?

[Gink]

He's been on here for 6 years and posted 225 times. He clearly knows what he is doing.


not srs

you even lift? go back to misc forums *******