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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    Couple weeks sounds so intriguing. Is there more to the book than what was given on the first page of thread? Would rep, but just repped you an hour ago
    there's a link to the book in it's entirely a page or so back.
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    So after reading up on this some more I'm pretty confident I can do it (obviously it'll still be a bitch).

    At first I was thinking I could eat only 800 calories, but since I'm category 1 + weight training I'll be able to eat 1200 calories which should be doable. I'll start in a few months
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    Originally Posted by AryanKonya View Post
    Is that youre total intake, or do you eat ex 1200 kcal and do 300 kcal worth of cardio?
    I looked back in my records and I was eating 865 calories a day. I was lifting 4 days a week and no cardio (a bit of daily running/exercising my dogs in the yard with a random walk around the block.)

    I'm also an IF follower and I think that helps me with this type of diet. I'm used of fasting and going without food for long periods of time.

    I'm on day 2 and I'm down 2 lbs. I was feeling a little cloudy in my head when I first woke up...but it's passed.
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    Here is a question..... I'm probably roughly 15% now.....still trying to cut to get near 12-10%..... if by some insane reason I decided to try this, would it be smart to wait until I'm in the 10-12% range to do it?

    Also, anyone have issue with rebound weight once you go back to eating normal?
    Nah this kinda cal deficit is easier the fatter you are, IMO do PSMF to get to 12% then go back to ~500kcal deficit.


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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    Couple weeks sounds so intriguing. Is there more to the book than what was given on the first page of thread? Would rep, but just repped you an hour ago
    Originally Posted by Jammer02xd View Post
    there's a link to the book in it's entirely a page or so back.
    What the above said. The basis is keeping protein high, carbs and fats low, getting your Vitamins and other certain stuff in your diet and drinking plenty of water or zero calorie drinks.
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    Originally Posted by AshWar View Post
    http://www.holisticmd.org/wp-content...difiedFast.pdf


    Almost everyone that's tried this has nothing but good things to say about it, basically you get the results of months of cutting in a couple of weeks with minimal muscle loss.


    It is a very low calorie (~800), high protein diet that is to be run for a short amount of time (2-3 weeks). Anyone else in??
    Literally did this for 5 weeks. I took a 2 week break and went back on it. The first day I fainted at work. Don't think I'll be doing this again
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    Originally Posted by NLNFunKti0nz View Post
    Literally did this for 5 weeks. I took a 2 week break and went back on it. The first day I fainted at work. Don't think I'll be doing this again
    Literally 2nd page of the link you quoted:

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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    Couple weeks sounds so intriguing. Is there more to the book than what was given on the first page of thread? Would rep, but just repped you an hour ago
    Originally Posted by iifymbro View Post
    Literally 2nd page of the link you quoted:

    Fluids: You must drink at least eight 8-ounce glasses (64 ounces or 2 quarts)
    of non-caloric liquid every day. This will help to keep you well hydrated and
    reduce the incidence of lightheadedness.
    Rekt. I find most people that have had issues with this diet don't follow it even remotely close to how it's supposed to be done.
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    Originally Posted by IH8RICE View Post
    You're a category 1? Might be why we are getting our wires crossed. I'm a 2 still so my refeeds are only once a week in a five hour period.

    I'm getting my numbers from lyles book. If you're working out while on the diet, he suggest 3 grams of carbs per lbm, your same amount of protein , and up to 50 grams of fat. Fat contains 9 calories per gram while carbs and protein contain 4 calories per.

    I am basing this off the fact that your AVI looks to make you a category 2 and not a 1.
    In the refeed section on page 46, he doesn't give those numbers for LBM, he only says high carbs.

    Though that avi is old, I'm aware I'm a cat 2.
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    In the refeed section on page 46, he doesn't give those numbers for LBM, he only says high carbs.

    Though that avi is old, I'm aware I'm a cat 2.
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    I honestly feel so sorry for you brahs who didn't start cutting earlier and now seem to be in "panic mode". My diet was not nearly this severe and it was still fkn miserable. Stay safe.
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    So day 2, weighed in at 184, that's 4lbs, aware the majority is water.

    Lunch is a 70G protein shake half casein half whey. Then dinner is vegetables and lean meats. Feeling good, was able to have sex last night, but felt pretty warn out after.

    I still feel good though, cleaned the house, booked tickets for some leave. Feel accomplshed.
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    how many cals do my bed sheets have? Note: I am only chewing them.
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    how many cals do my bed sheets have? Note: I am only chewing them.
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    Day 9. 2 more days then I'll have a refeed and go for another cycle. Lost about 3-4 kg so far. I don't really get hungry on this diet and neither do I feel different.

    Next cycle will be fueled by shakes, hitting 200 g of protein with lean foods is fukin hard and expensive.
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    Day 9. 2 more days then I'll have a refeed and go for another cycle. Lost about 3-4 kg so far. I don't really get hungry on this diet and neither do I feel different.

    Next cycle will be fueled by shakes, hitting 200 g of protein with lean foods is fukin hard and expensive.
    Drink a protein shake, other than Lyle stating it himself and other studies, a mixture of whey and casein is goat.
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    Originally Posted by Brophet View Post
    Day 9. 2 more days then I'll have a refeed and go for another cycle. Lost about 3-4 kg so far. I don't really get hungry on this diet and neither do I feel different.

    Next cycle will be fueled by shakes, hitting 200 g of protein with lean foods is fukin hard and expensive.
    It won't last forever, and just think of the benefits.

    I might add that you try and avoid the scale for the duration. It can seriously mess with your head.
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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    Fifteen pages and only two actual proofs of progress? Not sure if srs.
    Have you never seen people eating in a caloric deficit and losing weight? How is this any different?

    Originally Posted by Brophet View Post
    Day 9. 2 more days then I'll have a refeed and go for another cycle. Lost about 3-4 kg so far. I don't really get hungry on this diet and neither do I feel different.

    Next cycle will be fueled by shakes, hitting 200 g of protein with lean foods is fukin hard and expensive.
    Why so much protein?
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    Originally Posted by Bonnappe View Post
    Have you never seen people eating in a caloric deficit and losing weight? How is this any different?


    Why so much protein?
    You're supposed to eat this much prots when you've got actual lbm.
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    Originally Posted by Pungiish View Post
    You're supposed to eat this much prots when you've got actual lbm.
    This. My ****ing range to eat is 225g-300g of protein. ****. Just trying to plan this out is going to be bitch. I'm definitely going to have to pick up some casein for some casein/whey and fat free milk shakes. Pretty sure fat free dairy was permitted but going to go back and check to verify.
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    It won't last forever, and just think of the benefits.

    I might add that you try and avoid the scale for the duration. It can seriously mess with your head.
    Yeh no ****. Stupidly did it this morning and realized I didn't lose any weight plus it's a cheat meal today. Won't look at it again for the next four week until I finish.
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    I honestly feel so sorry for you brahs who didn't start cutting earlier and now seem to be in "panic mode". My diet was not nearly this severe and it was still fkn miserable. Stay safe.
    We do it because we don't want to cut for months, and there is 0 evidence it accelerates any LBM loss over a slow diet. But yea at this point its probably mostly panic being mid-may.
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    is it just me or has PSMF only recently been getting more attention? lol ive done it while cutting before i even knew there was a name for it, ide rather cut hard and short than long and slow. My first cut was 8 months long LOL aint nobody got time for that.

    edit: do any of you guys couple this with a ECA stack?
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    like i mentioned in an above post, i'd like to give this a shot once i have a good 6-8 week window where i'm not too busy. i'd like to be prepared before so i can jump right in once said window opens. i was thinking:

    i am 5'10, weigh 182 pounds, and lift 5x a week
    i'd probably go with 200-225g protein daily for 800-900 cals per day
    i make lots of stews so i would eat lots of cabbage, green beans, peppers, broc****, asparagus, and spinach every day, but would still supplement with a mineral/vitamin supp
    i'd plan on doing PSMF for a full 2 weeks before breaking for a refeed meal. i've seen one miscer who had great results would go to an all you can eat asian buffet. i may do something similar or stay in and just eat a stack of buckwheat pancakes or a bunch of whole wheat pasta, bread, or yams.
    no cardio at all, but plan on keeping my 5x morning a week weight training routine. i may not try to break PR's here and may not go to failure on all lifts
    i would make lots of tea and coffee, but only drink caffeine in the mornings. i've become quite sensitive to caffeine lately. i may drink decaf during the day and drink around 5L of water daily.
    try and sleep 8+ hours per night
    i have enough to keep me distracted so i shouldn't be sitting there thinking about eating all day

    does this look appropriate? am i missing anything integral? i've not read the book.
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    Originally Posted by Jammer02xd View Post
    This. My ****ing range to eat is 225g-300g of protein. ****. Just trying to plan this out is going to be bitch. I'm definitely going to have to pick up some casein for some casein/whey and fat free milk shakes. Pretty sure fat free dairy was permitted but going to go back and check to verify.
    Even fat free milk has too many carbs for this diet unfortunately.
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