I used a sample pack from GNC yesterday and the pump/energy from it was amazing. The only downer about it is that it's 60 dollars just anywhere I try to find it, but I've heard people say they buy it for $35-40 bucks. I was wondering if someone knows where I could buy it for that price? Preciate it hommies
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Thread: Acg3 by PMD
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02-20-2011, 11:14 AM #1
Acg3 by PMD
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11-22-2011, 10:09 AM #2
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Hey buddy I have several I picked up from a friend who went out of business!! I would be happy to sale them to you or anyone else for $35 each and mybe $5 buscks for shipping! I have about 10 left pink lemonaid and blue raz! Let me know and I will take care of it! CJessentials@aol.com
or you can call my store at 214-528-5535 Fitness Essentials!
Thanks and Take care!!
Christian
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11-22-2011, 10:13 AM #3
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12-26-2011, 05:40 AM #4
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12-26-2011, 06:14 AM #5
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12-26-2011, 06:34 AM #6
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12-26-2011, 08:05 AM #7
Actually it's not. It was one of the 1st products i took about a year ago. It was by far one of the best for energy, focus and endurance. For me anyways.
But now i roll with SP Max Sour Apple + Agmatine. I can never get enough of this stuff. Works amazing for me and tastes the best.
But don't frown on ACG3, it's a great product. Tastes good (much better than any white flood flavor) and works just as it's supposed to. I only tried the watermelon and pink lemonade flavors of it though.
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12-26-2011, 08:58 AM #8
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12-26-2011, 12:17 PM #9
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I have plenty of core values, thank you. And you can keep the blanket statements to yourself about "kids today" and "low IQs and uneducation", since I have two degrees hanging on my wall.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19228401. CEE worthless.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19276857. Arginine worthless.
The fact is, you attempted to shill a product with ingredients that the majority of the board already knows are bunk. The fact that you're hanging your age over the majority of us isn't impressive, and respect is earned, not inherent. Should you have come to this forum saying the product worked for you, and not copy-pasting all the bro-science that comes stock with most of GNC products, I'm sure the responses would be much different.
Good luck with your under-the-tabled sponsored goals of 2012.
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12-26-2011, 12:32 PM #10
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12-26-2011, 02:40 PM #11
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12-26-2011, 03:07 PM #12
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12-26-2011, 04:42 PM #13
LOL Alright guys lets get back to what this post is about and that is AGC3 by PMD. The fact is I have been taking this product for 3 months now and absolutely love it. Just the first week alone. I got great alertness, stamina, endurance, strength and an awesome pump that stuck with me. I did not just take this product for a week or so and say to myself like most people who are impatient with there goals when it comes to working out, cardio, diet and nutrition. I gave this product a chance to see if it actually worked. And it work awesome for me. I have heard a lot of great responses on this product by reputable people who have used it for quite some time. Not some joker who took it for a week and said OMG this is junk and is not working for me so I will give it a bad review and tell everybody that it is junk. I dont trust sources like that and laugh at them. I am sorry if you all dont like what I got out of this product or had to say but it worked great and still works great for me.
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12-26-2011, 10:15 PM #14
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12-27-2011, 03:14 AM #15
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12-27-2011, 03:21 AM #16
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12-27-2011, 05:40 AM #17
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Strong message deletions in this thread. Shame we quoted most of them.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19228401. CEE worthless.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19276857. Arginine worthless.
Try buying bulk Agmatine or Citrulline Malate and then come talk to us about pumps.
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12-27-2011, 05:43 AM #18
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12-27-2011, 10:04 AM #19
LOL, I did not come on here to promote this product. I came on here to say that I started using this product 3 months ago and how great it worked for me. I have been on a million and one sights and have heard great reviews on this product from people who have actually used it for some time. That is why I tried it out in the first place and have gotten really good results myself. Like everyone else who is into fitness and nutrition and have been for quite some time I will probably go on to another more well rounded product as well. I have never stuck to just one product over the last 28 years for an extended amount of time because something better always come out that taste better or gives you better results. I know that there are a ton of products out there that make a lot of claims on what there product can do and that it is better than all the rest but I always like to test out new ones and old ones as they come and go. That being said I appreciate all your replies and feedback's. One other thing, can you suggest a great creatine product out there that works for you and has giving you great results?
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12-27-2011, 10:08 AM #20
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Creapure creatine. And dont expect "great results" from creatine. All it does is aid in repair and ATP replenishment.
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12-27-2011, 10:50 AM #21
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03-10-2012, 09:25 AM #22
Jesus
You can argue and complain with each other all you want about how some ingredients work, some don't work, but I have yet to see a supplement approved by the FDA.
I think we can all agree that it is more about the effort you put into your workouts and lifting than the supplements your take, or the genes you were born with. Lets leave it at that.
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03-10-2012, 07:33 PM #23
LOL OK sounds good. I have been done with this thread for a while now and do not take pre workouts anymore anyway. I just got this reply in an e-mail and was surprised that this thread was even on here anymore lol. Everything is over and cool now. Thanks anyway and appreciate the comment and feedback........
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03-12-2012, 06:34 PM #24
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03-13-2012, 04:44 AM #25
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03-13-2012, 05:15 AM #26
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Oh I remember this thread. Back from the dead are we?
FDA doesn't regulate supplements, which is why you'll likely never see their seal on it. When peer reviewed studies test efficacy of an ingredient on a reasonable sample size of individuals and it's proven ineffective, the point stands. If the only thing it's countered with is "Dude this product srsly works, I love it!" than it's a weak case for support of the product.
No one's arguing the necessity of supplements, so I'm not entirely sure why you brought that up.
Grats. Keep buying it if it makes you happen. But don't claim to get a pump from it since stimulants is the only thing it's got going.
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03-13-2012, 05:19 AM #27
L-ARGININE has been around for a long long time and has been proven time and time again to work in many studies around the world.
It seems you can't go anywhere without hearing about Nitric Oxide products - from NO-Xplode to NO Shotgun, Nitric Oxide activators are all the rage. But because so many of these products contain caffeine, citrulline malate, beta-alanine and a host of other ingredients, it's hard to determine what effect the Nitric Oxide activators, such as L-Arginine, actually have. Because of this, some people get the impression that they don't do anything on their own. But what does science have to say about it? Let's dive into the research.
The first study examined the effects of L-Arginine supplementation on circulation and exercise capacity, but the supplement was administered for only one week. The dosage for each participant varied, as the researchers administered .5g of L-Arginine per each 10kg of body weight. Even over the short duration of the study, significant differences were observed. The first result of the one-week L-Arginine supplementation was the decrease in pulmonary arterial pressure by 5mmHg. Additionally, the researchers found that pulmonary vascular resistance decreased by 16 percent. In some participants, this decrease was even more significant; 10 patients experienced a 20 percent drop in pulmonary vascular resistance. This allows for easier blood flow through the body, enabling oxygen and nutrients to be delivered to working cells more efficiently.
The changes in arterial pressure and vascular resistance were not the only significant changes that resulted from the L-Arginine supplementation. Mean systemic arterial pressure dropped by 5mmHg as well. Additionally, there was an 11 percent average decrease in systemic vascular resistance. The researchers found that exercise capacity was affected by the L-Arginine supplementation through the study as well. The participants experienced an increase of 65ml/min in VO2 max (maximal oxygen consumption, a measure of aerobic capacity). Because of this, there was also a significant increase in peak workload - an average of 10 Watts (1).
Other studies have also indicated that L-Arginine supplementation has worthwhile benefits for fitness enthusiasts. The amino acid has been shown to boost protein synthesis as well as help heal wounds. L-Arginine supplementation has also been linked to enhanced responsiveness of the pituitary gland, the master gland of the endocrine system.
Lastly, researchers have observed that the combination of L-Arginine and exercise have synergistic effects. One study involved participants in four groups - one placebo, one participating in exercise, one supplementing with L-Arginine, and one exercising and supplementing with L-Arginine. While both the exercise-only and supplement-only groups did experience improvements in vasodilation over the four-week period, the group that exercised and used L-Arginine had the greatest results, with arterial diameter increasing by 12 percent (3).
Based on this research, it seems there are many benefits to be attained by saying "Yes" to NO supplements.
SOURCES:
1. Nagaya, Noritoshi, et al. Short-term Oral Administration of L-Arginine Improves Hemodynamics and Exercise Capacity in Patients with Precapillary Pulmonary Hypertension. American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine, 2001; 163(4): 887-891.
2. Brown, Liz. Arginine and Exercise. Better Nutrition, 2000. 62(6): 30.
3. Hambrecht, R., et al. Correction of endothelial dysfunction in chronic heart failure: additional effects of exercise training and oral L-arginine supplementation. Journal of the American College of Cardiology, 2000; 35(3):706-713,
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03-13-2012, 05:36 AM #28
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03-13-2012, 05:43 AM #29
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There are some benefits to Arginine supplementation, but NO boosting is not it's forte. The studies you linked assay patients with pulmonary hypertension and chronic heart failure, which I would think would be out of the realm of efficacy of arginine as related to sports supplementation. In the Nagaya paper, 3 individuals could not even complete the exercise test and had to be excused, with their final sample size at n=7. Patients in the Hambrecht paper were subjected only to handgrip training. Here's an interesting excerpt from it too:
One patient in the control group died from sudden arrhythmogenic complications of CHF during the study period, unrelated to participation in the study.
Also the acute arginine doses that were taken were at 8g/day for at least a week, and even if you argue that arginine has positive effects, the above PWO only has 2g of Arginine in 2 scoops, so you would have to supplement 6g from bulk sources to theoretically get the same effects.
Arginine on 25 year olds using 1RM exercise testing - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19276857
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03-13-2012, 07:19 AM #30
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