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    Originally Posted by HeavyLifter292 View Post
    ITT - low IQ Trumpers fail to understand the difference between Christopher Steele and Vladimir Putin

    Paying Christopher Steele to do opposition research is not a huge threat to our democracy.

    When Vladimir Putin decides he wants one candidate to win instead of the other and then offers help in the form of hacked documents, that is a massive threat to our democracy.

    Do you think Putin is doing this for altruistic reasons? He'll obviously expect something in return, and if the assistance didn't come out publicly then he can blackmail Trump until he gets what he wants.
    Wrong. This isn't some court case where wrongfully obtained evidence is thrown out and the jury told to ignore it. Your wrongdoings come out in a political campaign, nobody cares how it was obtained and certainly nobody is going to "ignore" it. Tell me, what exactly is the massive threat to your democracy. Your crimes being publicized?

    Not even to mention that Russia had nothing to do with the emails on wikileaks.
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    Originally Posted by HeavyLifter292 View Post
    ITT - low IQ Trumpers fail to understand the difference between Christopher Steele and Vladimir Putin

    Paying Christopher Steele to do opposition research is not a huge threat to our democracy.

    When Vladimir Putin decides he wants one candidate to win instead of the other and then offers help in the form of hacked documents, that is a massive threat to our democracy.

    Do you think Putin is doing this for altruistic reasons? He'll obviously expect something in return, and if the assistance didn't come out publicly then he can blackmail Trump until he gets what he wants.
    what makes you think the stuff the Russians fed Steele didn't come as a directive from above?
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    Dumbest post I've ever read. Negged.
    Too bad the "not liberal" mods repped him tho. For the dumbest post ever too.

    Brb foreign election interference is okay if it's in favor of the Dems. Maybe they can hire Russian intelligence next time instead of British?
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    Originally Posted by Vito-C View Post
    Too bad the "not liberal" mods repped him tho. For the dumbest post ever too.

    Brb foreign election interference is okay if it's in favor of the Dems. Maybe they can hire Russian intelligence next time instead of British?
    Christopher Steele - retired British intelligence officer.
    Vladimir Putin - current Russian dictator

    If you can't see the difference you're either incredibly stupid or being willfully ignorant. It's really hard to tell with Trumpers nowadays.

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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    In on the daily Bullitt posts protecting his master from the meanie lefties.
    So me calling out Tamorlane for posting 5 threads within 20 minutes of each other is the hill you wanna die on today?

    Lmao. You are permanently triggered by me. Terrible logic, aka derangement.
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    Originally Posted by HeavyLifter292 View Post
    Christopher Steele - retired British intelligence officer.
    Vladimir Putin - current Russian dictator

    If you can't see the difference you're either incredibly stupid or being willfully ignorant. It's really hard to tell with Trumpers nowadays.

    edit: lol enjoy your ban
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    'Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument, which in the United States is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda. When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Soviet response would often be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world.'

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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    Whataboutism is an explicit admission that your side is wrong.
    keep telling yourself that
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    Originally Posted by Sakeoe View Post
    Wrong. This isn't some court case where wrongfully obtained evidence is thrown out and the jury told to ignore it. Your wrongdoings come out in a political campaign, nobody cares how it was obtained and certainly nobody is going to "ignore" it. Tell me, what exactly is the massive threat to your democracy. Your crimes being publicized?

    Not even to mention that Russia had nothing to do with the emails on wikileaks.
    If the Russians had nothing to do with the emails, then why did they whack Seth Rich when he found out about them?
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    keep telling yourself that
    And you keep telling yourself that screeching about Hillary is a legitimate defense for Trump.
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    And you keep telling yourself that screeching about Hillary is a legitimate defense for Trump.
    I don't screech about Hillary to defend Trump. I do it to point out the hypocrisy
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    Libs: "Getting information from foreign entities is illegal!"

    People with common sense: "Then what about the Steele dossier?"

    Libs: "That's totally different!"


    SMDH at how idiotic libs are.
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    Originally Posted by BullittEV View Post
    So me calling out Tamorlane for posting 5 threads within 20 minutes of each other is the hill you wanna die on today?

    Lmao. You are permanently triggered by me. Terrible logic, aka derangement.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    'Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument, which in the United States is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda. When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Soviet response would often be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world.'

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    Translation- "I'm a hypocrite so I scream this phrase to hide my hypocrisy"
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    You deflect quicker and better than Wonder Woman's bracelets, son.
    Dont you get tired of being a leech? Say something of substance, for once. Deflecting from what? Another one. Speak, dog.
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    Originally Posted by leafs43 View Post
    Libs: "Getting information from foreign entities is illegal!"

    People with common sense: "Then what about the Steele dossier?"

    Libs: "That's totally different!"


    SMDH at how idiotic libs are.
    Sorry bud but if you think hiring Fusion GPS, an oppo research firm and getting info from the Kremlin are the same thing, you're the idiot.
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    Originally Posted by HeavyLifter292 View Post
    Christopher Steele - retired British intelligence officer.
    Vladimir Putin - current Russian dictator

    If you can't see the difference you're either incredibly stupid or being willfully ignorant. It's really hard to tell with Trumpers nowadays.

    edit: lol enjoy your ban
    From: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/19/u...er-report.html

    By January 2017, F.B.I. agents had tracked down and interviewed one of Mr. Steele’s main sources, a Russian speaker from a former Soviet republic who had spent time in the West, according to a Justice Department document and three people familiar with the events, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
    Steele's source(s) were Russian. How do you know they were not working for Putin?
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    Originally Posted by HeavyLifter292 View Post
    Sorry bud but if you think hiring Fusion GPS, an oppo research firm and getting info from the Kremlin are the same thing, you're the idiot.
    It’s nice to see pathetic trolls get repped out of red simply for being part of **** Trump, regardless of how idiotic their posts always are. Quality forum.
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    Trump should be impeached for his unacceptable hypothetical actions.

    I'm sure we can also impeach Mike Pence if we subpoena his bank records and all his electronic communications. Then Nancy can declare Hillary as VP, Nancy resigns and it can finally be HER TURN.

    If you think this is a bad idea, you are probably an alt-right Nazi.
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    Whataboutism is an explicit admission that your side is wrong.
    lol wut??? shouting out "fallacy!" is an explicit admission that you have no regard for logic or actual discourse. and the reason you don't talk about it is because you know addressing the point would prove your own hypocrisy.

    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    If the Russians had nothing to do with the emails, then why did they whack Seth Rich when he found out about them?
    lol wut?? now you shouting out conspiracy theories? Where is your proof that the russians "whacked" Seth Rich?
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    I was told that as long as you hire a company to do it for you, its perfectly okay.
    so hiring a foreign born private investigator to look into some stuff is the same as asking the actual spy department of a foreign nation to hack your opponents and release that hacked information publicly?
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    so hiring a foreign born private investigator to look into some stuff is the same as asking the actual spy department of a foreign nation to hack your opponents and release that hacked information publicly?
    You really are biased if you think Trump was saying, "Please, all foreign intelligence officers, please contact me with dirt on my political opponents asap."

    Please, dude. The guy answered the question on the spot like anyone that knows how to handle a situation. You listen, take in the information, then act. That is in general how people with a decent IQ work. To spin this as if he was soliciting treason is fukking stupid. Stop.
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    June 14, 2019, 8:34 AM EDT Updated on June 14, 2019, 10:40 AM EDT


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    Originally Posted by BullittEV View Post
    You really are biased if you think Trump was saying, "Please, all foreign intelligence officers, please contact me with dirt on my political opponents asap."

    Please, dude. The guy answered the question on the spot like anyone that knows how to handle a situation. You listen, take in the information, then act. That is in general how people with a decent IQ work. To spin this as if he was soliciting treason is fukking stupid. Stop.
    and surely it was a coincidence that no more than 5 hours after tramp asked russia to hack hillary's emails that russia actually did it.

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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    and surely it was a coincidence that no more than 5 hours after tramp asked russia to hack hillary's emails that russia actually did it.

    Lol at you believing this and then calling anyone else a conspiracy theorist. Wow
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    Originally Posted by HeavyLifter292 View Post
    ITT - low IQ Trumpers fail to understand the difference between Christopher Steele and Vladimir Putin

    Paying Christopher Steele to do opposition research is not a huge threat to our democracy.

    When Vladimir Putin decides he wants one candidate to win instead of the other and then offers help in the form of hacked documents, that is a massive threat to our democracy.

    Do you think Putin is doing this for altruistic reasons? He'll obviously expect something in return, and if the assistance didn't come out publicly then he can blackmail Trump until he gets what he wants.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    so hiring a foreign born private investigator to look into some stuff is the same as asking the actual spy department of a foreign nation to hack your opponents and release that hacked information publicly?
    Trump never did the latter though.
    digitalchi;1556326171: "imagine him not only getting elected in 2020 but also in 2024 due to some pro trump movement.

    Is there anything in the rules that prevents you from getting elected even though you dont run? I know you technically cant run for a 3rd term"
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    Originally Posted by ~Hades~ View Post
    Lol at you believing this and then calling anyone else a conspiracy theorist. Wow
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    Originally Posted by ~Hades~ View Post
    Lol at you believing this and then calling anyone else a conspiracy theorist. Wow
    two actions were separated by 5 hours:

    1 - Tramp saying “Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,”

    2 - Russia for the first time starts hacking specific democrat party email users and systems



    where's the conspiracy theory?
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