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    Originally Posted by chlaxman View Post
    Well if there are radars everywhere, they'd have seen the plane getting shot down. There are more than those options.

    And sorry but the US doesnt know what happened.
    No.
    If the plane is exploded from inside(terrorist attack) or military bombed the plane would just disappear from all radars.
    It was a 777, the best comercial plane in the world, there is no way to get rid of radar detection even with transponders off...It would show on the radar anyway(777 doesnt have stealth mode).
    As said, USA have a large interest on that area, they already know about it but cant say anything because if so, other countries would just be pissed(see NSA case)
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    Originally Posted by Domina8r View Post
    Here is my rational of thinking.

    they are searching no where near were it is......if it exploded mid air in perfect weather the area is way too busy with other planes and ships not to have been seen exploding.....if it had time to crash in one peice a mayday would have been sent out.

    I think pilot suicide....maybe the pilot got all that equipment in his houss to practice???.....or hijacked and no where near were they are looking.

    the whole thing is really weird

    If catastrophic failure resulted in a quick blast it would have been right over the last known point. This was searched, and even expanded....still nothing. I really doubt it was pilot suicide, the dude loved flying.

    The military claims they tracked the plane for another hour after it was off radar. This suggest GPS/Avionics loss, perhaps it was hijacked and all the imporant wires etc were cut/damaged

    The pentagon claims no large explosions were picked up via satellites..


    I dont know what to think, if i had to guess they lost electronics maybe even power and glided for a while and ended up who knows where, maybe even on land

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    But the plane is 11-years-old and Malaysian, that's like 30-years-old in real country years; the windows 3.1 OS probably flipped out when the pilot held the equals button down on the calculator program after a multiplication to see how high the number would go, then crashed into the sea and sunk because the tool boxes in the cargo hold are full of rocks (aka Malaysian fixing stones).

    Most likely.
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    Originally Posted by Tompah View Post
    But the plane is 11-years-old and Malaysian, that's like 30-years-old in real country years; the windows 3.1 OS probably flipped out when the pilot held the equals button down on the calculator program after a multiplication to see how high the number would go, then crashed into the sea and sunk because the tool boxes in the cargo hold are full of rocks (aka Malaysian fixing stones).

    Most likely.
    Thats actually not very old lol. planes from the 80s are still flying. they all go through overhauls tho

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    Originally Posted by StUck686 View Post
    Thats actually not very old lol. planes from the 80s are still flying. they all go through overhauls tho
    not to mention it's a boeing plane

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    Originally Posted by StUck686 View Post
    Thats actually not very old lol. planes from the 80s are still flying. they all go through overhauls tho
    This

    Delta was flying DC9s commercially up until early this year, those things were from the 60s

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    Originally Posted by Tompah View Post
    But the plane is 11-years-old and Malaysian, that's like 30-years-old in real country years; the windows 3.1 OS probably flipped out when the pilot held the equals button down on the calculator program after a multiplication to see how high the number would go, then crashed into the sea and sunk because the tool boxes in the cargo hold are full of rocks (aka Malaysian fixing stones).

    Most likely.
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    anyone fly the same malaysian airline? are the 777s shotty?
    in a perfect world there would be safety checks yeah?
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    Originally Posted by alvarogustavo View Post
    No.
    If the plane is exploded from inside(terrorist attack) or military bombed the plane would just disappear from all radars.
    It was a 777, the best comercial plane in the world, there is no way to get rid of radar detection even with transponders off...It would show on the radar anyway(777 doesnt have stealth mode).
    As said, USA have a large interest on that area, they already know about it but cant say anything because if so, other countries would just be pissed(see NSA case)
    The whole "military shooting down the plane" thing doesn't seem even remotely likely to me. For one, there isn't a reason to do it. Two, those military planes would have shown up on radar. And again, there just isnt a reason.

    Yes a terrorist bomb is possible. I don't think that's the cause but it is certainly possible. There could have been a catastrophic mechanical/structural failure as well. There are a lot of possibilities and we just don't know until wreckage is found.

    And again, the US doesn't know what happened. People WANT to think they're all knowing and powerful because it gives them a sense of security because they find it scarier that uncontrollable bad **** happens than a super powerful organization plans for bad **** to happen.
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    There's a good documentary here about how they overhaul aircraft

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    Originally Posted by alvarogustavo View Post
    No.
    If the plane is exploded from inside(terrorist attack) or military bombed the plane would just disappear from all radars.
    It was a 777, the best comercial plane in the world, there is no way to get rid of radar detection even with transponders off...It would show on the radar anyway(777 doesnt have stealth mode).
    As said, USA have a large interest on that area, they already know about it but cant say anything because if so, other countries would just be pissed(see NSA case)
    an interesting point was brought up about the pilot. the dude loved flying, absolutely consumed his life. built his own flight simulator so whenever he's not flying a boeing 777, he's flying a simulated boeing 777. depending on home situations and profiles this can mean just nothing (someone being very good at his job) or can mean everything (someone with extreme knowledge to use the plane in any way possible).
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    Interesting exerpt from CNN:

    THE PRECEDENT
    What we know: It's rare, but not unprecedented, for a commercial airliner to disappear in midflight. In June 2009, Air France Flight 447 was en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris when communications ended suddenly from the Airbus A330, another state-of-the-art aircraft, with 228 people on board. It took four searches over nearly two years to find the bulk of Flight 447's wreckage and most of the bodies in a mountain range deep in the Atlantic Ocean. It took even longer to establish the cause of the disaster.
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    Originally Posted by PointBreak85 View Post
    Ill be honest and anyone with a sane mind and common sense will agree with me...but if the authorities don't find ANYTHING in the next couple of days, im gonna suspect something not from this world was involved.
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    Originally Posted by brahsbrah View Post
    Interesting exerpt from CNN:

    THE PRECEDENT
    What we know: It's rare, but not unprecedented, for a commercial airliner to disappear in midflight. In June 2009, Air France Flight 447 was en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris when communications ended suddenly from the Airbus A330, another state-of-the-art aircraft, with 228 people on board. It took four searches over nearly two years to find the bulk of Flight 447's wreckage and most of the bodies in a mountain range deep in the Atlantic Ocean. It took even longer to establish the cause of the disaster.
    well...umm what what was the cause? lol
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    Originally Posted by PointBreak85 View Post
    well...umm what what was the cause? lol
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    Originally Posted by PointBreak85 View Post
    well...umm what what was the cause? lol

    iced out pitot tubes causing two different air speed readings thus confusion among how to get back to the proper speed, and which speed to base it from.



    another fun fact about 447- the crew experienced stick shaking for a long time in the flight, multiple minutes during this crisis. that's indicative of stall, but they disregarded and did the opposite thinking one of the air speeds was the true one, which it wasn't.
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    Originally Posted by PointBreak85 View Post
    well...umm what what was the cause? lol
    Pitot tube icing and then very poor pilot response. They want nose up and caused a stall but didn't realize they were in a stall and pretty much just fell out of the sky.
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    Originally Posted by Tompah View Post
    But the plane is 11-years-old and Malaysian, that's like 30-years-old in real country years; the windows 3.1 OS probably flipped out when the pilot held the equals button down on the calculator program after a multiplication to see how high the number would go, then crashed into the sea and sunk because the tool boxes in the cargo hold are full of rocks (aka Malaysian fixing stones).

    Most likely.
    11 years old for a commerical jet is practically brand new......

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    Originally Posted by Ken-O View Post
    thats whats mindblowing...

    They are obviously calling from the past, from a time when they had not won in a long time...

    Dude pass the bowl.

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    Originally Posted by SurfBrah69 View Post
    11 years old for a commerical jet is practically brand new......
    This.

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    Originally Posted by PointBreak85 View Post
    I just realized that the plane could have been shot down and they are trying to cover up their tracks

    i live on LI and there's a pretty well known incident of a plane that mysteriously went down. huge conspiracy about it. witnesses were not allowed to testify and the fbi "summarized" the interviews they conducted with them

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Fli...ative_theories
    maybe a training mission went wrong in the gulf of thailand and someone's military is withholding information?
    or someone purposely shot it down, who knows
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    Originally Posted by bmx045 View Post
    Then how come they won last year? lol i don't get it. whoever answered the phone is a beta phuck.
    How in the hell would that work? The 1940s didn't have cell phone towers.

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    "Malaysia military says tracked missing jet to Straight of Mecca"
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    "Military radar detects flight far off course from last point of radio contact"
    http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/03...radio-contact/

    now my question is why did these incompetent officials decide the search in the opposite side. brb hold on lets search the set route despite the plane turned around.

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    Originally Posted by Volta55 View Post
    i would assume the oxygen masks would drop when "the sensors" detects low oxygen?
    Assuming the sensor functions yes, that means absolutely nothing if the cockpit has depressurized and the pilots sensor has failed and/or they misdiagnose the problem like that Helios Airlines flight did a decade ago. Pilots with hypoxia aren't sending out any mayday.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522

    That flight^ had time for a mayday but then disregarded engineer assistance and passed out because the idiots misdiagnosed a pressure warning and not one of them bothered to mask up. It's not too hard to imagine numerous similar situations involving a power failure or pressure circuit malfunction which ends the same but without the distress call.

    Originally Posted by chlaxman View Post
    The whole "military shooting down the plane" thing doesn't seem even remotely likely to me. For one, there isn't a reason to do it. Two, those military planes would have shown up on radar. And again, there just isnt a reason.

    Yes a terrorist bomb is possible. I don't think that's the cause but it is certainly possible. There could have been a catastrophic mechanical/structural failure as well. There are a lot of possibilities and we just don't know until wreckage is found.

    And again, the US doesn't know what happened. People WANT to think they're all knowing and powerful because it gives them a sense of security because they find it scarier that uncontrollable bad **** happens than a super powerful organization plans for bad **** to happen.
    Everything is just conjecture atm and it makes me a little sick, the lack of info so far is perfectly reasonable in this sort of time frame but everyone always screams "TERRORISM!" when that's about as likely as being run over by a car whose driver was killed by a random meteorite.

    It's a pretty decent test of peoples intelligence/deductive reasoning when things like this happen, far too many people just spout stupid ideas or don't even have the remotest idea how technology works
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    So, heres the latest and greatest... The plane was re-routed to the West according to the Maylasians: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/search-wide...r.html#ueTgVxu

    This was after they lost com, and very much so disproves the theory that there was a massive depressurization of the cabin leading to the passengers/crew asphyxiating. (and essentially the plane flying until out of fuel)

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    Originally Posted by Herr13 View Post
    i live on LI and there's a pretty well known incident of a plane that mysteriously went down. huge conspiracy about it. witnesses were not allowed to testify and the fbi "summarized" the interviews they conducted with them

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Fli...ative_theories
    maybe a training mission went wrong in the gulf of thailand and someone's military is withholding information?
    or someone purposely shot it down, who knows
    TWA 800 was not hit by a missile...the fuel air mixture ignited. Numerous third parties interviewed the witnesses and what they described was not a missile.
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    Originally Posted by G0S9G View Post
    So, heres the latest and greatest... The plane was re-routed to the West according to the Maylasians: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/search-wide...r.html#ueTgVxu

    This was after they lost com, and very much so disproves the theory that there was a massive depressurization of the cabin leading to the passengers/crew asphyxiating. (and essentially the plane flying until out of fuel)
    So they lost comm...but didn't know how to operate a basic compass??
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    I'm sick of people bringing up that air france crash from a few years ago. That was TOTALLY different, the plane sent distress signals, they knew it crashed into the ocean, they just had to find it. Even that didn't take long, in a far more wide open and dangerous part of the ocean.

    The thing about this plane is it just disappeared... no warning, no distress signals, with all the technology on these planes is incredible, it's just gone

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    Originally Posted by DatPass View Post

    Everything is just conjecture atm and it makes me a little sick, the lack of info so far is perfectly reasonable in this sort of time frame but everyone always screams "TERRORISM!" when that's about as likely as being run over by a car whose driver was killed by a random meteorite.

    It's a pretty decent test of peoples intelligence/deductive reasoning when things like this happen, far too many people just spout stupid ideas or don't even have the remotest idea how technology works
    So true.
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