Theres still time to convince Klopp he should take the United job. We need Kagawa to turn on the charm and get him to come. Klopp has a sweet spot for him, the master and his pupil must be reunited. Believe.
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04-22-2014, 05:52 AM #91MUFC | Buccaneers | Tomahawk Nation
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04-22-2014, 05:53 AM #92
Klinsman tried at Bayern, it was a disaster. Managing at International level is a lot less involved.
Did Hiddink want to coach a club? Did he want to take over mid season? Did he want to coach in England? Was he interested in United? Heynecks was available too presumably. He could likely have done a bit better.
We appointmented Moyes, and gave him the shot he deserved. Just didn't work out. Can someone give me a few examples of a team bringing in a coach mid season and it reqally improving a side over the course of the rest of it? Di Matteo does not count because the league form didn't really change, despite him winning the UCL.Falcons, Seminoles, Red Devils
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04-22-2014, 05:58 AM #93
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04-22-2014, 05:59 AM #96
United, feel free to take McCoist.
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04-22-2014, 06:00 AM #97
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04-22-2014, 06:01 AM #98
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Those are questions you can ask of every manager at any time bar the mid season bit. Hiddink worked out pretty well for Chelsea when he joined them mid-season in answer to your second question.
I know sacking a manager mid-season isn't a great idea but there are reports that the decision was made in February and if that is the case I think there was no reason to keep him for so long if we really didn't have faith in him.Man Utd <3
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04-22-2014, 06:02 AM #99
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04-22-2014, 06:03 AM #100
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04-22-2014, 06:08 AM #101
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04-22-2014, 06:09 AM #103
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The squad Hiddink acquired at Chelsea was far better than uniteds and needed no additions to it.
they didn't even need to make any big additions in the summer because it so good and still won the league the next year. United is a completely different situation.
Don't see many top managers wanting to take over a mid season shambles to salvage someone else's mess. End off season is a different story."Soft with the Ladies, Hard with the Men" - Emmanuel Frimpong
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04-22-2014, 06:12 AM #104
Well Del Bosque was Real Madrids coach up until 2002 when he was sacked and he is still to this day considered to be Real Madrids greatest manager ever. Now he has the success at spain. So great club managers can transition themselves to be great international managers and vice versa.. It's just that most people look at accomplishments when choosing a manager. David moyes has achieved much of anything..
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04-22-2014, 06:13 AM #105
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04-22-2014, 06:17 AM #106
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04-22-2014, 06:19 AM #107
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I hope utd don't chit on their traditions. Would be a great shame to see a team like utd become a Chelsea, disregarding managers and players with no care at all.
It won't be hard to improve on the current team after the summer, moyes would have done that. I honestly believe any manager in the world would have struggled like moyes, it was an impossible job especially in the first season.
Get a young yet experienced manager in, someone that plays the footy you want to be playing, even if the name isn't blockbuster and then just back him 100%, like you did with fergie.
Solskjaer? Believe he was considered a promising manager, took on an impossible job too. Would be an interesting option. Martinez, and as crazy as it may sound, Gary Neville. It's gotten so bad because I don't hate him much anymore, but he certainly knows the club, the traditions and would seem to have managerial qualities.
Just my 2 cents.
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04-22-2014, 06:26 AM #108
I disagree. Klopp has succeeded motivating young players and developing cheap good players. I don't think he wants to deal with Rooney, van Persie, Vidic etc. Not to mention you still have Giggs, who has been shagging his brothers wife longer than Klopp has been a coach...
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04-22-2014, 06:28 AM #109
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04-22-2014, 06:28 AM #110
So now who will be dumb enough to take the united job
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04-22-2014, 06:30 AM #111
Just heard the news. Not a United fan btw but I understand the boards disappointment. However, they appointed him and should have stuck the 'transition' out until at least Christmas next season.
Lets be honest, this United squad is one of the weakest for years and whilst Fergie did win the title with it, no one was going to emulate his success. One thing that I'll say Moyes got wrong was his transfer business when he arrived. It was clear to see they needed to strengthen and as far as I am aware all he added was Fellaini.
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04-22-2014, 06:31 AM #112
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I don't think Klopp is coming to United but I think you've discredited us a bit there. Vidic is gone, Giggs and Ferdi are most likely retiring, we have some good younger players in Mata, Kagawa, Januzaj, Smalling, Rafael, Jones, Zaha, Welbeck, De Gea and so on, plenty of people for Klopp to come in and develop. Throw on top of that a big transfer kitty for Klopp to sign players with and I think Utd is a tempting prospect.
The guy loves Dortmund though, definitely think he won't be coming.Man Utd <3
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04-22-2014, 06:33 AM #113
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04-22-2014, 06:39 AM #115
Yeah, maybe I exaggerated a bit. My point was that he is not proven to deal with the egos of players making $500k a week and I don't see why he would leave BVB. Personally I wouldn't and I mean no offence by that.
That being said Klopp has stated that he doesn't see himself as the Fergie of BVB and he will def coach another team...What a time to be alive !
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04-22-2014, 06:55 AM #116
lol at everyone thinking ferguson is out of this world. Conte is Italys Ferguson, they fire up their players in the same spirit and chop their heads off if they perform poorly.
edit: with that said, your best replacement is conte. srsMilan, Milan solo con te
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04-22-2014, 06:58 AM #117
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04-22-2014, 07:03 AM #118
I agree.
With Moyes, he was sending out the wrong message to the media - this is something Roy Hodgson did at Liverpool. And once the media got on his back he wasn't strong enough to stand up for himself, which was very unlike Moyes.
It was a bold move on his part to get rid of a lot of Fergie's coaching staff, but he followed that with trying to play it safe far too often and not being himself.
Don't think Moyes will manage a top-tier team again.
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