Trannies versus female athletes

[sy2502]

I'm running out of ways to say "liberalism is a mental illness".

[Corbi]

I have nothing against transgenders

Having something against transgenders would be like having something against anyone with any kind of mental illness.

So you are admitting it is a mental illness and not something real and genuine?

[Cass40]

So you are admitting it is a mental illness and not something real and genuine?

Not sure but there are differences in personalities probably as early as new borns. Two year old boys are way more aggressive than females, for example, so it's not that they are only physically different, their personalities are different too from very early on before any culture affects them.
Now, if somebody feels like they are born as wrong gender and a boy acts more feminine very early on without anyone's influence, should it called mental illness or something else? If they're born with it, can't really fault them.

[supramax]

So you are admitting it is a mental illness and not something real and genuine?

'Admitting' isn't the correct word. I'm pointing out.

[supramax]

Here you go, Corbi.

[Mark1T]

So you are admitting it is a mental illness and not something real and genuine?

Pretty much. I’m no doctor or psychiatrist, but never did I insinuate it is real and genuine. My posts support that.

How about you?

[Corbi]

Pretty much. I’m no doctor or psychiatrist, but never did I insinuate it is real and genuine. My posts support that.

How about you?

My opinion is anyone who thinks they are trans is flat out nuts and needs treatment.

[Cass40]

My opinion is anyone who thinks they are trans is flat out nuts and needs treatment.

Lol it's not gonna work. It's like putting you in therapy to become a woman or me to become a man. We can go to therapy til the cows come home but it's not gonna change anything how someone feels about their gender.

[7Seconds]

My opinion is anyone who thinks they are trans is flat out nuts and needs treatment.

There is nothing inherent to being transgender that makes one mentally ill (e.g. depressed, anxious, suicidal); it is the manner in which one copes with their gender identity that is diagnosed and treated, not their gender itself. 

So when it comes to treatments like hormone therapy and transition surgery, the idea is still to help them cope mentally, not fix a medical problem with their body.  As mental illness treatments go, transitioning seems to get really good results. People would kill to have something that effective for anxiety and depression.

[Mark1T]

My opinion is anyone who thinks they are trans is flat out nuts and needs treatment.

Understood

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Cassie-Sassie-Girl, it is true therapy will not work for the majority. One main reason IMO is because some are attention-seekers and parents who push the trans thing onto their children should be locked up. Why do we see more of this phenomenon in certain geographical areas like the West Coast? (rhetorical question)

[Cass40]

There is nothing inherent to being transgender that makes one mentally ill (e.g. depressed, anxious, suicidal); it is the manner in which one copes with their gender identity that is diagnosed and treated, not their gender itself. 

So when it comes to treatments like hormone therapy and transition surgery, the idea is still to help them cope mentally, not fix a medical problem with their body.  As mental illness treatments go, transitioning seems to get really good results. People would kill to have something that effective for anxiety and depression.

Right. And calling them mentally ill is not really productive as they can't change even if they wanted to.

[Cass40]

Understood

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Cassie-Sassie-Girl, it is true therapy will not work for the majority. One main reason IMO is because some are attention-seekers and parents who push the trans thing onto their children should be locked up.

Yeah that's another issue. I am mainly thinking of the ones that would still feel like that no matter what. The parents who push that is not okay and it's so crazy.

[Mark1T]

Yeah that's another issue. I am mainly thinking of the ones that would still feel like that no matter what. The parents who push that is not okay and it's so crazy.

I agree with you.

[Corbi]

Lol it's not gonna work. It's like putting you in therapy to become a woman or me to become a man. We can go to therapy til the cows come home but it's not gonna change anything how someone feels about their gender.

I said treatment not therapy, there are different versions of treatment.

[HannoCometh]

What do you call a Kazakhstani tranny?

Spoiler!

No clue.

[KeepItMoving]

My opinion is anyone who thinks they are trans is flat out nuts and needs treatment.

I'm not clear on this one way or another. Clearly, there are co-morbidities that exist within those whom identify as gay or transgender or p3dophiles, or sex addicts, etc. Are they 'mentally ill?' Can psychiatric intervention and medication help them?

Perhaps. But, in modern academia, the current push is to move away from calling these folks mentally ill. Obviously, to say a gay person is mentally ill nowadays is to get yourself excommunicated from the profession, never to teach, write, or publish again.

This is wrong.

[supramax]

Gay, lesbian and bi are attraction and sexual pleasure preferences, not mental illnesses. Believing that you were born into a body of the wrong sex, however, is a mental illness. The stigma here is that people wrongly believe that 'mental' is an insult. The mind is of brain/body.

[Karl_Hungus]

There is nothing inherent to being transgender that makes one mentally ill (e.g. depressed, anxious, suicidal); it is the manner in which one copes with their gender identity that is diagnosed and treated, not their gender itself. 

You are just speculating here about the direction of causation. It is entirely possible that whatever psychological/biological mechanism that produces gender dysphoria exists as a nonspecific complex that manifests itself as a predisposition for several different disorders. Regardless of what treatment or lack of treatment they receive, they still tend to be much higher than non-dysphoric cohorts in the typical co-morbidities.

[bodyhard]

trust me I know this...

I have to work with 2 ****s (one of which I really can't stand) so my Archie Bunker/grumpy guy "schtick" doesn't work in the workplace

Dude prior to this damn pedemic, our company brought in a new consultant to oversee everyone's workload (sort of like the Bobs in the movie Office Space) and he was a full blown gay man, like really bad. Holy fck was it hard for me to work with this guy, he didn't last long as he was there for a just a few months but fck was he the worst!

[Mark1T]

Just to clarify what Johnny was saying, there is full blown gay, a little gay and then there’s guys or girls who have thought about doing something gay.

In case some translation was needed here.

Y’all go ahead with your conversation, nao.

[bodyhard]

they're everywhere these days dude !

Like roaches!

Just to clarify what Johnny was saying, there is full blown gay, a little gay and then there’s guys or girls who have thought about doing something gay.

In case some translation was needed here.

Y’all go ahead with your conversation, nao.

Any man who "thinks" about doing something gay is already gay


Just thought I clear that up

MAN WHY CAN'T I REP ANYONE!!!??

[Mark1T]

Thanks Johnny

[KeepItMoving]

Gay, lesbian and bi are attraction and sexual pleasure preferences, not mental illnesses. Believing that you were born into a body of the wrong sex, however, is a mental illness. The stigma here is that people wrongly believe that 'mental' is an insult. The mind is of brain/body.

I understand the acceptance that being gay is not a mental illness. I do not agree with the refusal of current academia and society to discuss the issue. Psychiatry is still malleable enough for counter discussion.

[KeepItMoving]

trust me I know this...

I have to work with 2 ****s (one of which I really can't stand) so my Archie Bunker/grumpy guy "schtick" doesn't work in the workplace

I've written and erased 2 long responses to this. Brevity: Classic, thank you.

[Cass40]

I understand the acceptance that being gay is not a mental illness. I do not agree with the refusal of current academia and society to discuss the issue. Psychiatry is still malleable enough for counter discussion.

Being gay is little different than the academia denying there's biological differences between genders and deciding men can just choose to be women and compete against them if they decide so.

[KeepItMoving]

Being gay is little different than the academia denying there's biological differences between genders and deciding men can just choose to be women and compete against them if they decide so.

Agree completely. It's a different discussion

[Cass40]

Agree completely. It's a different discussion

Yeah..I do have some gay coworkers and I'm pretty sure they don't want to compete against women, invade women's lockerooms, demand tampons in men's restroom cos men can also have periods etc. I haven't really asked them though but can't imagine. They leave us alone and just provide us women with some jokes and gossip.

[KeepItMoving]

Yeah..I do have some gay coworkers and I'm pretty sure they don't want to compete against women, invade women's lockerooms, demand tampons in men's restroom cos men can also have periods etc. I haven't really asked them though but can't imagine. They leave us alone and just provide us women with some jokes and gossip.

I used to get invaded by gays. Gay men. Geez, from age 17 thru my forties. It wasn't until my early 20's that I even realized that my affinity for muscle was a common affinity, some to the point of obsession (in both gay and straight people)

Initially, I was disgusted. It was weird and, at least to me, extremely fkd up. Talking to a dude for 10 minutes and being told he wanted to give me great head, or I could take his azz, if I wanted. Eventually, I came to be flattered by the attention. I'd even throw them a bone, like hot chicks do to fk with us guys who are obvious as fk about their goals. But, I just had no desire to get blown by a guy or to fk a guys azz. In Key West, I'd be walking down the street with my wife and they'd call out from the bars and hoot and howl about how they could suck a dik better than my wife. I won't go all Bodyhard her, but I did get violent with a guy in San Francisco who called my wife a 'breeder' after I refused his advances. (I used to go there to visit a gay primary family member)

Ahh, but those days are gone. No more hoots; no more howls. My beauty has aged and is no longer desirable. I will say this, my wife feels okay with this, and I am thankful.

[Cass40]

I used to get invaded by gays. Gay men. Geez, from age 17 thru my forties. It wasn't until my early 20's that I even realized that my affinity for muscle was a common affinity, some to the point of obsession (in both gay and straight people)

Initially, I was disgusted. It was weird and, at least to me, extremely fkd up. Talking to a dude for 10 minutes and being told he wanted to give me great head, or I could take his azz, if I wanted. Eventually, I came to be flattered by the attention. I'd even throw them a bone, like hot chicks do to fk with us guys who are obvious as fk about their goals. But, I just had no desire to get blown by a guy or to fk a guys azz. In Key West, I'd be walking down the street with my wife and they'd call out from the bars and hoot and howl about how they could suck a dik better than my wife. I won't go all Bodyhard her, but I did get violent with a guy in San Francisco who called my wife a 'breeder' after I refused his advances. (I used to go there to visit a gay primary family member)

Ahh, but those days are gone. No more hoots; no more howls. My beauty has aged and is no longer desirable. I will say this, my wife feels okay with this, and I am thankful.

Lol..pics or it didn't happen.

[Corbi]

Like roaches!



Any man who "thinks" about doing something gay is already gay


Just thought I clear that up

MAN WHY CAN'T I REP ANYONE!!!??

So a man can eat pu$$y his entire life but suck 1 dick and he's a coksucker?