Alright, Im really struggling lately. I really wanna add some weight to my deadlift (max set at 310 with belt and wraps), havent done it a while and buildin it back up. My problem is I have really small hands (most girls have bigger hands than me). When I wrap my hand around the bar my index finger just touchs my thumb. I use wraps but every time I lift its a battle of grip. My friend said its easier for him because he can lock his thumb around his index and middle. Do you guys think its a real problem having small hands or do I just gotta hit up that grip strength more. I just started doing a lot more plate pinching and deadlift holds. Any thoughts?
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06-12-2007, 12:23 PM #1
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Deadlift grip strength...SMALL HANDS
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06-12-2007, 01:01 PM #2
For the next 4 weeks do this
Go into the gym put 225lbs on the rack just below your deadlift lockout
Pick it up set it down and re grip 3 times for two sets of three do this 5 days a week adding 5lbs every workout.
Hold it for a for about 2-3 seconds at the top
Your grip will sky rocket, dont forget chalk.. or liquid chalk if your gym bitches about it.
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06-12-2007, 01:08 PM #3
WTF? are you joking?
my thumb and index overlap atleast an inch... rofl... wow, uhmm...well anways work on plate pinching and static holds in a power rack, and double overhand static holds.., I would say get a rolling thunder from ironmind but you probably couldnt get your hand on it good enough to lift anything..
you are using a switch grip and chalk right? make sure you get the bar as far up towards your thumb as you can, so the bar gets caught on the flap of skin....
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06-12-2007, 01:13 PM #4
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06-12-2007, 01:35 PM #5
Not to be captain obvious or anything, but are you using over-under grip? Or over-over? A lot of guys that come from a BB background just think over over is the way to do it. The reason I ask is because you talk about overlapping your fingers and thumb--which sounds like hook grip, and hook grip would be done over-over.
You'll just have to start doing a lot of timed holds and stuff. Also get some chalk.
And I too, somehow don't believe the description of the hand size. It sounds literally about like a newborn baby's hand. I have small hands even for my height and I'm short, and I don't have much problem gripping over-under.
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06-12-2007, 02:33 PM #6
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Well Ive been taught to use sumo deadlift and I use hook grip from doing O lifts. Okay maybe theyre not that small, but when I grip it my thumb gets on the finger nail only on the side, not fully. Oh and my gym doesent allow chalk as it "makes a mess" as they said. Heres the actual measurements of my hand....
Middle finger (from top to bottom, finger only) 3 inches
Thumb (top to bottom) 2.5 inches
Whole Hand (middle finger to start of wrist) 7.2 inches
After talkin to guys at the gym, Im just gonna hit up a really good grip program I think. Oh and Im a size 9 shoe. Terrible ass genetics, before lifting I was 120 lbs at the same height, wtf lol.https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=180003183&p=1635918623#post1635918623
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06-12-2007, 02:38 PM #7
fuk the people at your gym, sneak chalk in, just don't make a mess, bring in a little tuppleware container with only a little bit of it.
as far as grip goes, pinch plates, bb static holds, captain of crush grippers, thick bar work are your best friends.'Prior to the Department of Education, there was no illiteracy'
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06-12-2007, 04:21 PM #8
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06-12-2007, 05:17 PM #10
your hands are bigger then mines! the main reason is due to you using a hook grip. it takes a lot of time and practice and PAIN to get use to heavy weights with a hook grip. Like some people already said the switch to over/under grip and the use of chalk should solve your problems, especially since the best you've only done is 310. Doesn't hurt to train grip directly as well, but it won't be needed IMO.
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06-12-2007, 08:15 PM #11
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06-12-2007, 10:38 PM #12
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Dude, try looking around your gym for a smaller width bar. I know my gym has 2 different types of bars, one really thick one, and one thinner one. I have big hands and don't have a problem with either, but know how you feel when it comes to feeling like you have bad grip. Just grab a thinner bar and it helps alot.
Also try not to use straps for dead lifting as much as possible. When it gets to the point of the bar slipping out of your hands, then throw them on. This helps build your grip alot.
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06-13-2007, 07:33 AM #13
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u think you have a grip problem. I have deformed hands that were passed down to me by my mother. My middle finger is the smallest on both hands, and i can't even really use a hook grip. I used to complain but realized that it wasn't gonna do any good. I trained my grip hard and later got some chalk. I could pull 465 with just chalk and hold onto it for enough to yell out "there is no reason to be alive if you cannot do deadlift". I could also hand thick smooth farmer's handles 225 each for at least 73 feet (my two driveway cracks). KEEP WORKING YOUR GRIP!!!
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06-13-2007, 09:18 AM #14
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06-13-2007, 09:22 AM #15
Dude, from your measurements your hands are not that small, especially for your height. What does it matter how big your shoe is? Stop whining about your genetics, 120/5'7" is not that unusual for a teenager who has never lifted. I used to be 5'10" and 105 pounds. Just work on the grip, use over/under like everyone has mentioned, and you could also try using chalk and cleaning up until someone specifically yells at you.
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06-13-2007, 12:54 PM #16
I found that the COC grippers helped a lot for deadlift grip strength. I have small girly hands too, but I closed the number 2 without too much training with them. Now I can hold 400+ pound bars without trouble. My grip is no longer the limiting factor in my deadlift, which is, of course, the goal for a powerlifter training his grip strength.
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06-13-2007, 04:06 PM #17
Don't use hook grip. Use over under grip.
Your genetics aren't bad--My hands are 7.4" inches, and I have no problem deadlifting 500+ for reps even.
Also, I was just at 130 when I started lifting, so 120 isn't that bad.
My bro was about 110 when he started lifting and is now 160 and deadlift 475. You'll overcome it in time.
But you've got to lose the hook grip if you want to get anywhere. Very few people deadlift a lot with hook grip, and it takes a lot of practice. If the hook grip was working for you it'd be fine, but you are having problems with it, so stop doing it that way.
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06-13-2007, 09:25 PM #18
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Thanks guys, I never thought the hook grip would be the big factor. Well hopefully, Ill be able to get that up. Pretty soon Im leavin for a missions trip for a month and a half so well see how much strength and weight Ill lose in the heat. Hopefully I can maintain with bw excercises. thanks everyone.
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