I workout 5x per week (2-3x weights and 2-3x cardio) and eat approx 2000 calories per day. My weight and bf was exactly the same as it was last week, and the same as it was one month ago. If I cut calories anymore then I will wake up at night hungry and not be able to get back to sleep. Any other ideas?
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01-17-2010, 10:21 AM #1
eating clean and working out, but still cannot drop fat
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01-17-2010, 10:24 AM #2
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01-17-2010, 10:27 AM #3
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01-17-2010, 10:34 AM #4
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01-17-2010, 10:58 AM #5
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"Everyone thinks they're on their way to single digit body fat as soon as they see a blurry four-pack in the right lighting.Your final body weight at 5-6% will be a lot less than what you think.Talk to me again when you get in contest shape." I'd be willing to say that 95% of people on this forum accomplish nothing in years, don't be one of those people. It's sad,they seem to have the knowledge many don't but can't utilize it.
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01-17-2010, 11:05 AM #6
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01-17-2010, 11:07 AM #7
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"Everyone thinks they're on their way to single digit body fat as soon as they see a blurry four-pack in the right lighting.Your final body weight at 5-6% will be a lot less than what you think.Talk to me again when you get in contest shape." I'd be willing to say that 95% of people on this forum accomplish nothing in years, don't be one of those people. It's sad,they seem to have the knowledge many don't but can't utilize it.
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01-17-2010, 11:48 AM #8
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I eat pretty late on some days....I have slowed down as of late, but I have stuck to counting calories and now adjusting to lower them to lose more weight.
Might need to lower your calories. I am 260 and my maitneance weight was around 2600 IIRC and been trying to shoot for 1800-2000 calories to lose 1 pound a week.
I would find your maintenance again and see where you stand. Sounds like you need to lower it some...Current Stack
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01-17-2010, 11:53 AM #9
Drink a small amount of milk before bed or if you wake up in the middle of the night.
That usually does it for me.
However depending on your program the cardio could be stopping any muscle gain which would decrease any growth in muscle mass, leading to less calories burnt at rest.
Eating 2k kcals and working out that much for your weight seems to me like you are at a good deficit though, a deficit that has stopped your body from being a furnace.
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01-17-2010, 12:04 PM #10
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01-17-2010, 12:09 PM #11
Kinda sounds like what I was at I had to drop my cals. Went to 1600 and it started back working for me.I workout 6 days a week 1 rest day. Losing 1-2 lb every weeks. I kinda bounce my cals around now tho to keep my body guessing and it works some days ill hit 1100 others 1600 n most around 1450. I get hungry at night sometimes I have a cup of cottage cheese and it works for me. Look at my sig. U can see my progress. Or even my pics I'm slimmin up and keepin my strenght
You start with an intention, but you must constantly remind yourself to keep applying enough focus to achieve that outcome. Follow through. When you've given enough attention to the matter, you"ll have the result...
Feb1 to may1 challenge
2-1, 166.6
2-8
2-15
2-22
2-29
Month Total:
3-1
3-8
3-15
3-22
3-29
Month Total:
4-5
4-12
4-19
4-26
Month Total:
Final Weigh in:
5-3
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01-17-2010, 12:16 PM #12
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01-17-2010, 12:19 PM #13
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01-17-2010, 12:21 PM #14
I figured dropping to 1800 would eat the the muscle mass. I guess I could shoot for 1800, start walking an hour every day on top of my workouts, and then see what happens. I usually eat a couple hundred calories more on the days that I lift (3x per week) and I guess I will need to stay around 2000 calories on those days. I hate cutting.
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01-17-2010, 01:35 PM #15
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I Didn't read everyones postings, but from what I read of the main post I think you need to drop the calories slightly, nothing huge, just enough so that you will be able to see if there is a change in weight.
The other thing I suggest if you are worried about waking up hungry in the middle of the night is you need to eat something that has no carbs in it before bed. You do a lot of calorie burning while you sleep, and adding unwanted carbs before bed is like putting a road block up. If you ever read any articles about cutting they always say that cottage cheese is one of the best things to eat before bed because there are no carbs. I used to eat a few pieces of lean steak or chicken before bed if I really needed a snack but don't turn it into a meal, just ingest enough so you can make it through till morning.
I also suggest that your last full meal should be no later then 6 or 7 at night, your body needs time to burn the calories from the meal so you are able to sleep and burn the unwanted fat off while you sleep. I am just suggesting these things.The last three or four reps is what makes the muscle grow. This area of pain divides the champion from someone else who is not a champion. That's what most people lack, having the guts to go on and just say they'll go through the pain no matter what happens.
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01-17-2010, 03:05 PM #16
Kinda sounds like what I was at I had to drop my cals. Went to 1600 and it started back working for me.I workout 6 days a week 1 rest day. Losing 1-2 lb every weeks. I kinda bounce my cals around now tho to keep my body guessing and it works some days ill hit 1100 others 1600 n most around 1450. I get hungry at night sometimes I have a cup of cottage cheese and it works for me. Look at my sig. U can see my progress. Or even my pics I'm slimmin up and keepin my strenght
You start with an intention, but you must constantly remind yourself to keep applying enough focus to achieve that outcome. Follow through. When you've given enough attention to the matter, you"ll have the result...
Feb1 to may1 challenge
2-1, 166.6
2-8
2-15
2-22
2-29
Month Total:
3-1
3-8
3-15
3-22
3-29
Month Total:
4-5
4-12
4-19
4-26
Month Total:
Final Weigh in:
5-3
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01-17-2010, 04:46 PM #17
sorry for the double post. somehow my cell re sent the post. i just agree you need to cut the cals still. obviously 2k is still too much for you
You start with an intention, but you must constantly remind yourself to keep applying enough focus to achieve that outcome. Follow through. When you've given enough attention to the matter, you"ll have the result...
Feb1 to may1 challenge
2-1, 166.6
2-8
2-15
2-22
2-29
Month Total:
3-1
3-8
3-15
3-22
3-29
Month Total:
4-5
4-12
4-19
4-26
Month Total:
Final Weigh in:
5-3
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01-17-2010, 04:55 PM #18
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01-17-2010, 06:26 PM #19
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I've never had a problem with the dieting. I am a very clean eater even when I'm not motivated and still count my calories. It's just got to the point where I'm going to have to lower my calories below 1700 to keep losing. I started today on 1500. I just hate not being able to make any strength gains anymore. That's what's killing me.
What I lack in hight, I make up for in shortness.
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01-17-2010, 06:28 PM #20
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01-17-2010, 06:37 PM #21
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01-17-2010, 06:40 PM #22
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01-17-2010, 06:55 PM #24
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I was up until about a month ago. I've tried to move up but can't. I havn't lost any strength I'm just not gaining any.
Simple. I'm still fat. lol
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Just took those pics and made that thread a few hours ago.What I lack in hight, I make up for in shortness.
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01-17-2010, 07:25 PM #25
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01-17-2010, 08:19 PM #26
I wouldn't say you're fat. You're being a little self- critical which brings me to a different point- not to hijack but this is important.
Some people have this fire and dedication to do great things which sadly is rare but what gets those of us results. However, there is a definitite tendency to become too obsessed and therefore not be quick enough to reward ourselves when we ARE kicking butt.
My point- you have done so well. Don't be too hard on yourself. It's great to be a perfectionist- hell, I am one LOL- but enjoy the ride too!“Why do you stay in prison when the door is wide open? ” — Jalal ad-Din Rumi, Persian poet and mystic
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01-17-2010, 08:53 PM #27
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ditto on the hijacking part I'm not trying to take over the thread lol
But oh yeah I am enjoying it. I look completely different now with clothes on and feel great. It's just when the shirt comes off I still see flab lol. But after spending a little time on the boards here today my motivation is back up. I'll be waking up extra early in the morning for some cardio. I really want to be at a decent bf% before I bulk so I'm gonna follow the saying and just "shut the **** up and train". lolWhat I lack in hight, I make up for in shortness.
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01-17-2010, 08:59 PM #28
I guess I will need to cut calories (ugh)
I should have mentioned that I eat a Kaishi granola bar and an apple every day. The granola bar contains 5g of sugar but it has 7g of proten and only 140 calories. Would this promote fat storage given that both are simple carbs? Both are low in calories... I'm debating whether the granola bar or a couple hard boiled eggs would be the better snack even though there are slightly more calories with the eggs.
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01-18-2010, 05:39 AM #30
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What I have found to work is to cycle my workout phases.
For example, put yourself into a bulking phase, put in as much work to bulk up for 5-6 weeks. Then for the next 5-6 weeks, you'd want to go into a cutting phase. After that, everything else is up to you.
Hell, if you'd want a real challenge, go 3 weeks bulking, 3 weeks cutting. However, make sure in those 3 week phases, you're hitting it hard every time. For the bulking, I would suggest 3-4 days per week, and cutting would go for 5-6 days a week, depending on your schedule and ability to resist overtraining.
Now, granted I still have that stubborn fat, but I am still working my way to overcome that. Hopefully I wasn't just talking out of my ass when I gave you my advice, lol.
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