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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    And Osterholm from the University of Minnesota?

    https://news.yahoo.com/biden-adviser...132648631.html
    If he's advising Biden he's most likely a spineless "yes man" who will tell Biden what he wants to hear. Watch the video, it's quite interesting.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    It's a natural disaster occurring in all 50 states at the same time': Leading physician gives dire warning as post-Thanksgiving hospitalizations hit a record 93,238, Fauci warns of a 'surge upon a surge' and millions head home after the holidays
    US coronavirus hospitalizations have nearly doubled in the last month - reaching 93,238 on Sunday.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rd-93-238.html


    nah, nothing to see here


    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/covid-19-daily-video
    Hospitalizations this time of year go way up. Every year. Yes, thousands of hospitalizations are Covid cases adding to that. There is a lot of overlap. People who'd be in the hospital right now if Covid didn't exist. A higher ratio of flu cases cause hospitalization (about 1 in 70-80) than SARS-Cov2 has (about 1 in 200) but of course Covid has a higher death ratio and spreads easier.
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    Our % of excess deaths vs normal deaths is lower than they were this summer
    We expect to get a bump in deaths during the winter years , regardless of covid
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Its the end of the world!!!!!
    Not quite, but it's not good news that covid deaths are 1 every minute in the US.

    Originally Posted by badreligion View Post
    People die all the time, nothing new. Saying everyone is dying from covid is just flat out wrong.
    I trust that medical professionals generally know how to assess cause of death and that there's neither a huge global conspiracy to fraudulently inflate the numbers nor a mass wave of international incompetence on how doctors assess cause of death.

    Originally Posted by Mountaineer92 View Post

    meaning they were terminally ill before catching covid. dying from and dying with covid are 2 different things. the people that have YET to understand this are legitimately retarded.
    Agreed with the bolded.

    Medical professionals internationally know how to assess cause of death when multiple comorbidities are present.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    We're at a spot right now where an American is dying from covid every minute of every day.



    Not good guys. Not good at all.
    You do know that every minute of every day a chit load of folks die for a variety of reasons right? Seems like some people have only now realized people... uhm... die.... a lot... This covid thing must have been a hell of a reality check for some.
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    south and midwest are ****ing up the covid statistics.
    30k + 30k = 60k, from a total of 90k hosp. 65% of total hosp are redneck cucks
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    Imagine waking up each day and searching for COVID charts.

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    Twatter.com. For all your science needs...
    that twitter links to nature, lancet, sciencemag, medrxiv, arxiv. Is nature.com fake news ???????
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    I am home, so try making sense next time.
    Didn't you have Thanksgiving with people who don't live with you?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Didn't you have Thanksgiving with people who don't live with you?
    I had Thanksgiving dinner with 22 people. We all wore 3M N95 masks, stared at the delicious plates in front of us, and then left after 90 minutes with loads of leftovers for everyone.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    I had Thanksgiving dinner with 22 people. We all wore 3M N95 masks, stared at the delicious plates in front of us, and then left after 90 minutes with loads of leftovers for everyone.
    Literally none of this happened.
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    Originally Posted by terrorgunt View Post
    Literally none of this happened.
    Boy, you're a bright one. Too much of that sloppy chit-tone Skolnick melted your mind, son.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    Not quite, but it's not good news that covid deaths are 1 every minute in the US.



    I trust that medical professionals generally know how to assess cause of death and that there's neither a huge global conspiracy to fraudulently inflate the numbers nor a mass wave of international incompetence on how doctors assess cause of death.



    Agreed with the bolded.

    Medical professionals internationally know how to assess cause of death when multiple comorbidities are present.
    Watch the video I posted, it's a half hour but it's interesting and it addresses why most deaths are probably not all covid related.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    I had Thanksgiving dinner with 22 people. We all wore 3M N95 masks, stared at the delicious plates in front of us, and then left after 90 minutes with loads of leftovers for everyone.
    So you just stared at the food or did you actually eat it?
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    Originally Posted by badreligion View Post
    So you just stared at the food or did you actually eat it?
    Tell ya what, if you've ever overstuffed yourself at Thanksgiving, you should give it a try sometime.
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    excess deaths sweden update








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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Tell ya what, if you've ever overstuffed yourself at Thanksgiving, you should give it a try sometime.
    I did this year but I just went to the bathroom and I was good to go. I took a moment of silence for my toilet though.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Didn't you have Thanksgiving with people who don't live with you?
    All 4 were tested the week B4(one kid/6 times total this year)
    And we were seated at 2 tables, so there is that.
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    If he's advising Biden he's most likely a spineless "yes man" who will tell Biden what he wants to hear. Watch the video, it's quite interesting.
    He was around way b4(see Joe Rogan podcast in February) Biden Mr. uninformed...
    He and Fauci are the 2 experts in the US.
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    Originally Posted by frankdtank20 View Post
    Hospitalizations this time of year go way up. Every year. Yes, thousands of hospitalizations are Covid cases adding to that. There is a lot of overlap. People who'd be in the hospital right now if Covid didn't exist. A higher ratio of flu cases cause hospitalization (about 1 in 70-80) than SARS-Cov2 has (about 1 in 200) but of course Covid has a higher death ratio and spreads easier.
    Well when they hang a WE ARE FULL sign outside....... maybe the boneheads will modify their behavior, maybe.

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    Originally Posted by sy2502 View Post
    You do know that every minute of every day a chit load of folks die for a variety of reasons right? Seems like some people have only now realized people... uhm... die.... a lot... This covid thing must have been a hell of a reality check for some.


    Kind of a pointless rebuttal as the implication you're making is that the mere existence of death makes any efforts to save lives meaningless.

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    Watch the video I posted, it's a half hour but it's interesting and it addresses why most deaths are probably not all covid related.
    Nah. 30 minutes to listen to some nobody attempt to defend a right wing talking point that has no basis in fact is about 29 minutes too many.


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    Kind of a pointless rebuttal as the implication you're making is that the mere existence of death makes any efforts to save lives meaningless.
    Its about risk vs reward. That's why driving a car and deaths related to cars is a great analogy. We are willing to accept a certain amount of death for cars. So clearly there is an acceptable number, and not the "if even 1 person dies its too many" garbage people try to spew.
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    Its about risk vs reward. That's why driving a car and deaths related to cars is a great analogy. We are willing to accept a certain amount of death for cars. So clearly there is an acceptable number, and not the "if even 1 person dies its too many" garbage people try to spew.
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    Its about risk vs reward. That's why driving a car and deaths related to cars is a great analogy. We are willing to accept a certain amount of death for cars. So clearly there is an acceptable number, and not the "if even 1 person dies its too many" garbage people try to spew.
    Kind of a bad analogy as in the whole of 2019 only 36,000 people died in the US from auto accidents, yet it's still a priority for national and local officials to reduce the number of deaths. There are quite a few laws designed to reduce highway deaths from seatbelt mandates, prohibitions against driving drunk or under the influence of drugs, mandatory auto manufacturer safety standards, traffic speed limit enforcement, etc.

    One would say that quite a bit of personal liberties are curtailed in the effort to reduce highway deaths.

    And that's for a cause of death that kills less people in one entire year than covid kills in one month. So if anything, your analogy would indicate that more laws and mandates should be enacted to slow the death rate of covid. Interesting hot take.
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    He was around way b4(see Joe Rogan podcast in February) Biden Mr. uninformed...
    He and Fauci are the 2 experts in the US.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post


    Kind of a pointless rebuttal as the implication you're making is that the mere existence of death makes any efforts to save lives meaningless.



    Nah. 30 minutes to listen to some nobody attempt to defend a right wing talking point that has no basis in fact is about 29 minutes too many.


    Occams razor applies here. Millions of medical professionals worldwide did not all suddenly forget how to correctly identify cause of death. This isn't hard logic to arrive at.
    He was VP and Chief Scientific Officer (Allergy & Respiratory Research) with Pfizer but go on and tell me about how it's "right wing talking points" because clearly you know more than him and others who have said the same exact thing as him....you are a special kind of stupid aren't you?
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    There are more than 2 experts in the US.
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    Its about risk vs reward. That's why driving a car and deaths related to cars is a great analogy. We are willing to accept a certain amount of death for cars. So clearly there is an acceptable number, and not the "if even 1 person dies its too many" garbage people try to spew.
    What a senseless analogy. Odds are you’ll be in 3 or 4 car crashes in your life despite the tens of thousands of times you’re in a car. Of those crashes the odds are 1 in 100 it will be fatal. Plus car crashes aren’t contagious. And yet billons are spent to make cars safer.


    If your odds of getting in a plane crash were the same as dying of Covid, the airfare industry would be bankrupt in a year.

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    Originally Posted by badreligion View Post
    He was VP and Chief Scientific Officer (Allergy & Respiratory Research) with Pfizer but go on and tell me about how it's "right wing talking points" because clearly you know more than him and others who have said the same exact thing as him....you are a special kind of stupid aren't you?
    Give me the cliffs. What is he alleging? Either a) a massive international conspiracy to fraudulently lie about true cause of death or b) a massive international embarrassment as we find out medical professionals the world over never actually knew how to accurately assess cause of death.

    So which is it?
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    Give me the cliffs. What is he alleging? Either a) a massive international conspiracy to fraudulently lie about true cause of death or b) a massive international embarrassment as we find out medical professionals the world over never actually knew how to accurately assess cause of death.

    So which is it?
    Why not just watch it yourself? He brought up the fact that despite what we were told about no natural immunity, that seems to be false and talks about that, talks about cross immunity, talks about how the PCR tests are not meant to be used the way they are.
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