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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    do what you want dude. it's a free country. lord knows you don't give a rats ass about anyone other than yourself, so I don't expect you to wear a mask.
    In the gym? The police station? Outdoor/indoor dining? If things are so serious, then Illinois wouldn't allow indoor/outdoor dining, and they wouldn't be opening up gyms again.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    None of you will answer the question though......
    After answering each question about 10 times with the same answers, it's apparent there is no good reason to keep answering.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    The first thing you need to understand about me is I'm nonpartisan, and there's not a single politician whom I like. Protesting during a highly contagious pandemic is retarded. Almost as retarded as having a president that ignores it.
    Agreed...and am happy to hear you are nonpartisan...I am as well
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Ok so after 47 pages,,,,,,,,,,,, has anyone changed their original opinion or are we just talking past each other?
    You can't implore people to give a chit. They either do or don't and trying to force it just makes matters worse. They might come around on their own but being insulted and preached at sure won't do it.
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    Originally Posted by mydawgs View Post
    Agreed...and am happy to hear you are nonpartisan...I am as well
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    In the gym? The police station? Outdoor/indoor dining? If things are so serious, then Illinois wouldn't allow indoor/outdoor dining, and they wouldn't be opening up gyms again.
    Would depend if you can actively distance. That's why in most states capacity is limited and tables need to be spaced. At the where people are constantly moving around and sharing equipment it's best to use masks. Idk about the police station but my job you have to wear masks and they closed down every other work station.
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    Mortality rates are an interesting discussion topic, but when you guys do the math based on current confirmed cases and current deaths, realize the mortality rates lag the tests by on average, 4 weeks. There's also a reporting lag to the deaths that is much longer than the reporting lag positive test results. Test results are almost real time.

    That may not seem important, but for that death rate of 4% to be close to accurate, it would mean that if you are going to die, then your death would occur the instant you got your positive result. That why the % of confirmed cases that will likely result in death is actually significantly higher than the 4%.

    I suspect that's true in all countries and differences in how good reporting is, how delayed it is in each country, the amount of testing and who is getting tested, all will make direct comparisons difficult.

    I've seen overall mortality rate calculations from as low as .6% up to 1.5%. So something around 1% is a fair guess. The bottom line is that deaths per day in states with increasing confirmed cases will go up significantly with a 4 to 5 week lag. We're just seeing the beginning of that.

    Whether deaths will track closely with the increasing confirmed cases will also depend on how much testing is being done in those states and whether the ratio of undiagnosed to confirmed cases is changing, and whether we have hospital beds. Odds are the deaths per day will be double in 5 weeks because new cases per day are about double what they were 5 weeks ago. Could be worse if hospitals run out of capacity. Could be better if we get better at treating the illness.
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    Originally Posted by Ten_Hearts View Post
    Would depend if you can actively distance. That's why in most states capacity is limited and tables need to be spaced. At the where people are constantly moving around and sharing equipment it's best to use masks. Idk about the police station but my job you have to wear masks and they closed down every other work station.
    What good is 6' if the droplets remain airborne for 30 minutes? The slightest draft will move them more than 6'
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    He's not though
    He sure as hell is not a Republican...and I see he leans left. I lean right on the economy and used to lean left socially but it appears the left does not want me because I am the wrong color and won't agree with everything they say....floating above the middle?????
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    3 States Account for 42 Percent of All COVID-19 Deaths in America. Why?

    Despite the recent coronavirus surge in southern states, three states—New York, New Jersey, and Massachusetts—account for about 42 percent of COVID-19 deaths in America. Why?

    Thursday, July 9, 2020

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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Every post for the last 12 weeks contains one or more of the same 4 or 5 questions.

    You need a reboot, son.
    So should I arrest people for not wearing masks!!?!?!?!
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    So should I arrest people for not wearing masks!!?!?!?!
    No...why would you put yourself at risk like that?
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    Originally Posted by GordonXXX View Post
    3 States Account for 42 Percent of All COVID-19 Deaths in America. Why?

    Despite the recent coronavirus surge in southern states, three states—New York, New Jersey, and Massachusetts—account for about 42 percent of COVID-19 deaths in America. Why?

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    10% of the population, 42% of the deaths. Gotta really put in effort to fuk up that bad.
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    Meaningless graph unless it's correlated to amount of testing.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    None of you will answer the question though......
    Indoor dining should not be allowed since most restaurants don't have ventilation that can filter out aerosolized particles several times an hour. Outdoor dining should be low risk if spaced well.

    Bars would be fine if you're willing to wear good a mask and can drink through a straw while wearing it. Kinda sucks if you like salt with your margarita. Otherwise, no. Bars are very high risk.

    Gyms could safely be open with masks required all the time. Fans in gyms don't filter the air, and masks aren't dangerous to wear while exercising. If people can't do quite as much wearing a mask, they'll learn to deal with it.

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    Originally Posted by Vexidi View Post
    10% of the population, 42% of the deaths. Gotta really put in effort to fuk up that bad.
    Virus was in NYC before anyone realized it, it's also the most dense state.

    What's Texas' excuse?
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    Looks like we're heading for a 70k new cases and 1k deaths day.
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    Originally Posted by ceizer1985 View Post
    Virus was in NYC before anyone realized it, it's also the most dense state.

    What's Texas' excuse?
    Everyone flooded down here for the beaches. I have never seen so many out if state license plates.
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    Everyone flooded down here for the beaches. I have never seen so many out if state license plates.
    Do you really believe this happened?
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    He sure as hell is not a Republican...and I see he leans left. I lean right on the economy and used to lean left socially but it appears the left does not want me because I am the wrong color and won't agree with everything they say....floating above the middle?????
    He only says that because I don't support Trump and he'd suck the vas deferens out of Trump's cock.

    The Republican party is just a bunch of cowards. The Democratic party is just a bunch of cowards. I could get into detail about both, but to suffice it to say, they're both ****.

    If you really wanted to nail me down on something, I guess you could call me a fiscally conservative libertarian.
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    Originally Posted by JustTheDad View Post
    Indoor dining should not be allowed since most restaurants don't have ventilation that can filter out aerosolized particles several times an hour. Outdoor dining should be low risk if spaced well.

    Bars would be fine if you're willing to wear good a mask and can drink through a straw while wearing it. Kinda sucks if you like salt with your margarita. Otherwise, no. Bars are very high risk.

    Gyms could safely be open with masks required all the time. Fans in gyms don't filter the air, and masks aren't dangerous to wear while exercising. If people can't do quite as much wearing a mask, they'll learn to deal with it.

    Answered.
    His follow-up will be, "Do you think the police should enforce masks?" and then the cycle shall repeat itself.
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    Originally Posted by ceizer1985 View Post
    Virus was in NYC before anyone realized it, it's also the most dense state.

    What's Texas' excuse?
    whats Texas’s excuse for having 1/10th the deaths of NY?

    Is this a trick question?
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    Virus was in NYC before anyone realized it, it's also the most dense state.

    What's Texas' excuse?
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    Looks like we're heading for a 70k new cases and 1k deaths day.
    It's sad how much you make death political. On the other hand, it's obvious how the antichrist will control the population. I'm sure you will be right back here laughing and ridiculing those who refuse being vaccinated or microchipped.
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    It's sad how much you make death political. On the other hand, it's obvious how the antichrist will control the population. I'm sure you will be right back here laughing and ridiculing those who refuse being vaccinated or microchipped.
    a victim of disinformation and poor education, ladies and gentlemen
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    a victim of disinformation and poor education, ladies and gentlemen
    This is alt#1234. Someone who is so pathetic and alone they can't help from creating new accounts EVERY SINGLE DAY only to cry, bitch and moan due to their own depression.
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    Yes the data is lagging....I have heard that some tests are held for months before coming to result, First Responders such as FFs had to push for priority....
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    This is absurd.
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    A nice thread on all cause deants, broken down by state, over the last few years

    We already know, but ny, nj, etc... all did poorly

    https://twitter.com/boriquagato/stat...350302721?s=21
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