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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Your party denies simple biology.
    Now that is an interesting point....how one can understand the subjectivity (non-scientific) of gender confusion (when their is evidence to the contrary) and then throw a tantrum over the idea of creation.....

    For the record as an Agnostic I believe all ancient writings of religious beliefs need to acknowledge they were written by humans and deconstructed to the time of the writings to understand the messages..
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    My party does? I'll wager the vast vast majority of biologist are liberal...because the vast vast majority of those with advanced degrees are liberal.

    Oh wait, you're transposing the screeching of a few onto all liberals. Just like I am when I say that you and your party are science deniers...oh that's not right. Literally more than 50% of you don't believe in evolution.

    bahahahahaha

    Go away deputy dawg. I'm not in the mood for your low IQ takes and deflection. Just embrace you and your parties ignorance.

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    My party does? I'll wager the vast vast majority of biologist are liberal...because the vast vast majority of those with advanced degrees are liberal.
    So scientific.."vast vast"...sorry you covered your lack of proof with "I'll wager"...continue
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    Originally Posted by mydawgs View Post
    So scientific.."vast vast"...sorry your covered your lack of proof with "I'll wager"...continue
    In your opinion, is the crowd in the US with advanced degrees more bigly liberal or more bigly cultist?

    If you're not sure I'll point you to some polling and post voting stats boyo.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Simple question, should I wear the mask at the gym? Should I wear it at the police station or for indoor/outdoor dining?
    Ask yourself deputy dawg, when do you wear a seatbelt? That will answer your moronic question.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    In your opinion, is the crowd in the US with advanced degrees more bigly liberal or more bigly cultist?

    If you're not sure I'll point you to some polling and post voting stats boyo.
    Do those break down fields of study?
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    What is your opinion. Is the crowd in the US with advanced degrees more bigly liberal or more bigly cultist?

    If you're not sure I'll point you to some polling and post voting stats boyo.
    Polls are evidence? Like in 2016 with Hillary...My opinion is the non-technical studies non-advanced and advanced are more liberal...but I agree with you that "Gender studies", Journalism, Poli Sci....yep liberal....I have found the hard sciences and the practical utilization of that body of work are more right leaning or like me agnostic

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    Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
    Do those break down fields of study?
    For chits sake seriously? You people rail on and on about how higher education is a liberal indoctrination system and now you're going to claim there may be carveouts of cultist?

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    Originally Posted by mydawgs View Post
    Polls are evidence? Like in 2016 with Hillary...My opinion is the non-technical studies non-advanced and advanced are more liberal...but I agree with you that "Gender studies", Journalism, Poli Sci....yep liberal....I have found the hard sciences and the practical utilization of that body of work are more right leaning or like me agnostic

    You prove my theory...you think polls are valid evidence of your theory
    Polls aren't based on science? So a 30% chance for Trump to win really means 0%?

    Holy chit it's no wonder our country is so phuked up.
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    Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
    Do those break down fields of study?
    Polls have a margin of error that cannot even be calculated...
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    Oh lawd this graph is perfect. Not only are the cult not getting educated, they think it's harmful to the US. You simply can't make this chit up.

    No wonder we're so phuked right now...SMH


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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Polls aren't based on science?
    Sure, Hillary is president...

    Margin of error...look it up
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    Originally Posted by mydawgs View Post
    Sure, Hillary is president...

    Margin of error...look it up
    lol wat? That's part of the science. You definitely fall in line with the chart I posted above.

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    As far as total vs per capita. No matter what metric you use, the US's response has been among the very worst in the world.
    If that were the case, that would simply just be the case. But its not, and that's why the data is so interesting and why so many people are trying to flip back and forth between different metrics because some metrics are inconvenient. Let's start with an easy one. The US has conducted the most tests of any country in the world. How is that a bad metric? Its not, is the right answer.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    lol wat? That's part of the science. You definitely fall in line with the chart I posted above.

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    Here are examples of high and low MOE problems

    1. Your Poll..
    Ask 1000 people if they like cats, every 2 weeks for 6 months

    What do you think the margin of error would be over the entire 6 months if the MOE was defined as a changed answer?

    2. On the very same day as you poll the 1000 people, take a 10lb mass and drop it from a 6 ft platform and calculate the force at which the mass is pulled down

    What do you think the MOE of the calculated force will be assuming the MOE is defined as the change in force + or minus .1 m/second squared (all environmental conditions equivalent)

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    Originally Posted by mydawgs View Post
    Here are examples of high and low MOE problems

    1. Your Poll..
    Ask 1000 people if they like cats, every 2 weeks for 6 months

    What do you think the margin of error would be over the entire 6 months if the MOE was defined as a changed answer?

    2. On the very same day as you poll the 1000 people, take a 10lb mass and drop it from a 6 ft platform and calculate the force at which the mass is pulled down

    What do you think the MOE of the calculated force will be assuming the MOE is defined as the change in force + or minus .1 m/second squared (all environmental conditions equivalent)

    I know what I think
    da phuk are you going on about? Do you even statistics? You are clearly very very unaware of how medical insurance and life insurance companies set their rates.

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    For chits sake seriously? You people rail on and on about how higher education is a liberal indoctrination system and now you're going to claim there may be carveouts of cultist?

    Please go boyo.
    So that's a no? I don't care about soys getting their degrees in commie studies to go be Starbucks barista.

    An actual breakdown of fields of study would be much more telling.

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    If that were the case, that would simply just be the case. But its not, and that's why the data is so interesting and why so many people are trying to flip back and forth between different metrics because some metrics are inconvenient. Let's start with an easy one. The US has conducted the most tests of any country in the world. How is that a bad metric? Its not, is the right answer.
    No that's good. The fact is though that the US is barely in the top 20 in testing per capita. That's bad for the most powerful and wealthy country in the world.
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    Oh lawd this graph is perfect. Not only are the cult not getting educated, they think it's harmful to the US. You simply can't make this chit up.

    No wonder we're so phuked right now...SMH


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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    da phuk are you going on about? Do you even statistics? You are clearly very very unaware of how medical insurance and life insurance companies set their rates.

    SMH...SMH
    Not talking about insurance and setting rates (I'm sure there is no bias in that market to skew results...another topic)...I'm talking about how the scientific method is necessary to provide valid assessments that drive valid conclusions, it seeks to minimize assumption and subjectivity, which pretty much defines how polls are conducted because your data source are people HUGE variable
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    No that's good. The fact is though that the US is barely in the top 20 in testing per capita. That's bad for the most powerful and wealthy country in the world.
    Because of how much more populated the US is compared to other countries.
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    Originally Posted by maverickTT1 View Post
    Because of how much more populated the US is compared to other countries.
    But his point is valid...the question is why with the wealth of our country, a valid question IMO
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    No that's good. The fact is though that the US is barely in the top 20 in testing per capita. That's bad for the most powerful and wealthy country in the world.
    First, you said by ANY METRIC and it wasn't true. Second, you did exactly what I said keeps happening and dumbing down the conversation. So I guess size matters, and having some money matters. And we need to make adjustments. So let's go in that direction:

    Death %

    UK - 15.5%
    France - 14.5%
    Italy - 14.4%
    Mexico - 11.9%
    Spain - 11.2%
    Canada - 8.1%
    China - 5.5%
    Japan - 4.8%
    Germany - 4.4%
    US - 4.3%

    So how is that a bad metric?
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post

    So how is that a bad metric?
    Metrics are not bad or good, they are. It is the validity of the analysis that produce the metric that can be debated. Maybe Sillie can make this case so we can all understand his perspective.
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    Originally Posted by mydawgs View Post
    But his point is valid...the question is why with the wealth of our country, a valid question IMO
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


    Click the testing per capita and see the ranking.

    The top ranks are skewed heavily by island and very small population nations, which understandably will be a much different divisor that will skew the statistic significantly.


    There are only a few major nations ahead of the US in testing for million population.


    And on the 7, 30, 60 day rolling average US is doing better than almost anyone by far.


    More importantly is how relevant out testing is- and how much better we can identify the cases, and how actual sick people can go get tested without worries of mass transportation being there only Avenue.
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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


    Click the testing per capita and see the ranking.

    The top ranks are skewed heavily by island and very small population nations, which understandably will be a much different divisor that will skew the statistic significantly.


    There are only a few major nations ahead of the US in testing for million population.


    And on the 7, 30, 60 day rolling average US is doing better than almost anyone by far.


    More importantly is how relevant out testing is- and how much better we can identify the cases, and how actual sick people can go get tested without worries of mass transportation being there only Avenue.

    Interesting...I think the delay from testing to result is missing in many of these studies which hinders assessing a valid cause for outbreaks. MO
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    Originally Posted by mydawgs View Post
    Interesting...I think the delay from testing to result is missing in many of these studies which hinders assessing a valid cause for outbreaks. MO

    I’m kind of thinking other than healthcare treatment and capacity to do such when someone arrives sick—— All the nations would have ended up with the same statistics they have now regardless of what anyone did.


    It’s just a really chittt virus that sucks at the end of the day
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    First, you said by ANY METRIC and it wasn't true. Second, you did exactly what I said keeps happening and dumbing down the conversation. So I guess size matters, and having some money matters. And we need to make adjustments. So let's go in that direction:

    Death %

    UK - 15.5%
    France - 14.5%
    Italy - 14.4%
    Mexico - 11.9%
    Spain - 11.2%
    Canada - 8.1%
    China - 5.5%
    Japan - 4.8%
    Germany - 4.4%
    US - 4.3%

    So how is that a bad metric?
    I don't understand what point you're trying to make. What does death % of testing matter? Isn't deaths per million really the only metric that matters? That will show how well the country is handling the virus.
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    Texas deaths top 100 for the first time today.

    But yea, the US, thanks to Trump, is handling this so well. Forget 1k, we're well on our way back to 2k deaths per day.

    What a phuking shame...all because the cult think wearing a mask is bad due to Trump and because he forced states to open early.

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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    So right now, there are certain states that are locked down, and there are others opening up. Do you disagree with the ones opening up again?
    which states are still locked down? name them.

    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    I love how you switch from totals to per capita for no other reason than your agenda. "This is not about politics!" LOL
    what line of work are you in? serious question.

    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Oh lawd this graph is perfect. Not only are the cult not getting educated, they think it's harmful to the US. You simply can't make this chit up.

    No wonder we're so phuked right now...SMH


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