What is a PS4 and PS5 equivalent in GPUs

[AlwaysFocus]

Just curious.

Im joining the PC master race soon.

Already own a PS4 and looking for a PS5

[blissful88]

They're really only comparable to desktop counterparts by TFLOPS since console GPU's have lower clock speeds & TDP & share system RAM

TFLOPS is a worthless measurement for gaming performance


-PS4 has a Radeon 7850 from 2011 architecture
-PS4 pro has a Radeon RX470(weaker than gtx 1060 3GB) which is 2015 architecture
-PS5 has a lower-spec'd Nvidia 1080 from 2016



I suggest you wait to build a PC until the prices normalize again, once they do you'll be able to surpass a PS5's gaming performance for the same or less money

[AlwaysFocus]

They're really only comparable to desktop counterparts by TFLOPS since console GPU's have lower clock speeds & TDP & share system RAM

TFLOPS is a worthless measurement for gaming performance


-PS4 has a Radeon 7850 from 2011 architecture
-PS4 pro has a Radeon RX470(weaker than gtx 1060 3GB) which is 2015 architecture
-PS5 has a lower-spec'd Nvidia 1080 from 2016



I suggest you wait to build a PC until the prices normalize again, once they do you'll be able to surpass a PS5's gaming performance for the same or less money

I bought a custom pre built for 1699$CAD I think you posted in my thread. It has a 3060ti. I couldnt wait any longer, been looking for months. My laptop of 10 years failed.


Thanks for the other info though. Wow consoles are way behind it seems.

[Chargr]

They're really only comparable to desktop counterparts by TFLOPS since console GPU's have lower clock speeds & TDP & share system RAM

TFLOPS is a worthless measurement for gaming performance


-PS4 has a Radeon 7850 from 2011 architecture
-PS4 pro has a Radeon RX470(weaker than gtx 1060 3GB) which is 2015 architecture
-PS5 has a lower-spec'd Nvidia 1080 from 2016



I suggest you wait to build a PC until the prices normalize again, once they do you'll be able to surpass a PS5's gaming performance for the same or less money

I am pretty sure that PS5 reference is wrong. It is much higher (2060-2070 RTX Super)

[butwhowasfeel]

integrated graphics

[blissful88]

I bought a custom pre built for 1699$CAD I think you posted in my thread. It has a 3060ti. I couldnt wait any longer, been looking for months. My laptop of 10 years failed.


Thanks for the other info though. Wow consoles are way behind it seems.

A desktop 3060ti blows the new xbox out of the water, you'll be happy

I am pretty sure that PS5 reference is wrong. It is much higher (2060-2070 RTX Super)

A GTX 1080 performs between a 2060-2070 in speed

A GTX 1080ti is between a 2070-2080 and usually trades blows with a 2080




There's a reason most people skipped Turing, they're not really upgrades over Pascal

Microsoft & Sony are running 2016 speeds in their 2020 consoles, they screwed up big time not waiting for Ampere & Navi like the rest of us

They've been launching dated hardware since the PS3 & suckers fall for it

[tnel00]

They're really only comparable to desktop counterparts by TFLOPS since console GPU's have lower clock speeds & TDP & share system RAM

TFLOPS is a worthless measurement for gaming performance


-PS4 has a Radeon 7850 from 2011 architecture
-PS4 pro has a Radeon RX470(weaker than gtx 1060 3GB) which is 2015 architecture
-PS5 has a lower-spec'd Nvidia 1080 from 2016



I suggest you wait to build a PC until the prices normalize again, once they do you'll be able to surpass a PS5's gaming performance for the same or less money

when tf are the prices going to normalize? I was just getting ready to update my gpu and then noticed the prices are outrageous

[blissful88]

when tf are the prices going to normalize? I was just getting ready to update my gpu and then noticed the prices are outrageous

When the media stops lying about the Chinese Flu which in-turn causes people to hide in their homes gaming & spergs stop using gaming GPU's to mine ****coin


Welcome to the chit show, stick around for ensuing arguments ITT

[AlwaysFocus]

When the media stops lying about the Chinese Flu which in-turn causes people to hide in their homes gaming & spergs stop using gaming GPU's to mine ****coin


Welcome to the chit show, stick around for ensuing arguments ITT

ive heard over a year, hence my purchase, im no redditor but very thankful my friend is, because Id still be fukked. It is really hard to buy computer parts, when I bought my pre built the guy said "holy crap didnt see this, people will buy this and sell the card"

There was 9 left when I called, when I hung up they were gone.

[OptimusTrajan]

A desktop 3060ti blows the new xbox out of the water, you'll be happy




A GTX 1080 performs between a 2060-2070 in speed

A GTX 1080ti is between a 2070-2080 and usually trades blows with a 2080




There's a reason most people skipped Turing, they're not really upgrades over Pascal

Microsoft & Sony are running 2016 speeds in their 2020 consoles, they screwed up big time not waiting for Ampere & Navi like the rest of us

They've been launching dated hardware since the PS3 & suckers fall for it

They're both using rdna2 though, which is Navi.

[blissful88]

ive heard over a year, hence my purchase, im no redditor but very thankful my friend is, because Id still be fukked. It is really hard to buy computer parts, when I bought my pre built the guy said "holy crap didnt see this, people will buy this and sell the card"

There was 9 left when I called, when I hung up they were gone.

I believe it. It started in summer 2020, I suspect it will be 2022 before parts are readily available again

They're both using rdna2 though, which is Navi.

They put last generation's zen 2 in, you can't really compare custom parts found in consoles to desktops like I mentioned but if you want to it's essentially a 3700x CPU & 5700 non-XT GPU in the PS5


It's all a moot point, you save initial bux by going with a console but you're stuck with the same hardware for 7+ years while PC's make sick kunt GPU gains every year to keep up with the latest games so soyboy Timmy can have his 500fps

[M0nsterB0y]

when tf are the prices going to normalize? I was just getting ready to update my gpu and then noticed the prices are outrageous

-When Elon Musk stops hyping crypto so much

-When this whole covid thing is over (people building pcs for home entertainment and work/school. workers returning to work onsite)

-When rich kids stop buying overpriced (3x msrp) gpus

[BearyManilowe]

Per DFs latest on the PS5, though this appears to be software dependant:

"First of all, RTX 2060 Super is 20 per cent slower than PlayStation 5, dropping to 10 per cent with an RTX 2070 Super. Based on tests with a 2080 Ti, it looks like a 2080 Super or RTX 3060 Ti would be required to match or exceed PlayStation 5's output. However, based on my tests with a Navi-based RX 5700, I'd expect a 5700 XT to get within striking distance of the console's throughput"

Sorry for Reddit, but sometimes it's the easiest way to source information quickly: https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comment...m_source=share


Series X runs as good as anywhere between a 2060 Super to a 2080, depending on the title, according to this Neogaf article: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/digit...super.1576945/

Console hardware is a little difficult to track because it's tailored to a specific purpose but in general you're getting 4k/60 on 99% of titles (I believe that's the benchmark) and floating between a 2060 Super and a 2080 GPU, depending on the title. The load times (NVMe) and CPU performance is excellent thus far in personal experience though.

[mgftp]

Clicking on this thread made me release Blissfull deleted his recent thread? Just lmfao

Per DFs latest on the PS5, though this appears to be software dependant:

"First of all, RTX 2060 Super is 20 per cent slower than PlayStation 5, dropping to 10 per cent with an RTX 2070 Super. Based on tests with a 2080 Ti, it looks like a 2080 Super or RTX 3060 Ti would be required to match or exceed PlayStation 5's output. However, based on my tests with a Navi-based RX 5700, I'd expect a 5700 XT to get within striking distance of the console's throughput"

Sorry for Reddit, but sometimes it's the easiest way to source information quickly: https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comment...m_source=share


Series X runs as good as anywhere between a 2060 Super to a 2080, depending on the title, according to this Neogaf article: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/digit...super.1576945/

Console hardware is a little difficult to track because it's tailored to a specific purpose but in general you're getting 4k/60 on 99% of titles (I believe that's the benchmark) and floating between a 2060 Super and a 2080 GPU, depending on the title. The load times (NVMe) and CPU performance is excellent thus far in personal experience though.

That's I think the same analysis I posted in the now missing Blissfull thread, lmao. 40k 60 is definitely the standard and appears easily done by the majority of devs. Looks like 4k 30 w/ RT and 1440P 60 w/ RT as more games implement Raytracing. Very good, nice step up and a gap closer to PC, but that gap to top end GPUs is still huge and I really still want more personally. PS5Pro can't come soon enough for me.

[OptimusTrajan]

Clicking on this thread made me release Blissfull deleted his recent thread? Just lmfao



That's I think the same analysis I posted in the now missing Blissfull thread, lmao. 40k 60 is definitely the standard and appears easily done by the majority of devs. Looks like 4k 30 w/ RT and 1440P 60 w/ RT as more games implement Raytracing. Very good, nice step up and a gap closer to PC, but that gap to top end GPUs is still huge and I really still want more personally. PS5Pro can't come soon enough for me.

Why do you need a ps5 pro? Just build a pc.

[mgftp]

Why do you need a ps5 pro? Just build a pc.

Because contrary to BlissfullyIgnorant's claims I couldn't play great games like TLoU, UC, GoT, GoW, SM, RnC, etc, etc on PC. I also greatly enjoy the ease of use and simple ecosystems console gaming offers. Say Playstation didn't exist I'd overpay for a top tier Xbox over an equivalent powered PC.

[Kadoobiedo]

Why do you need a ps5 pro? Just build a pc.

see below

They've been launching dated hardware since the PS3 & suckers fall for it

[rocketfish]

hard to "measure" but one things certain, these next gen consoles finally came to play and is just going to advance PC gaming further, cause last gen consoles were so badly spec'd.

tflops as measurements mean nothing when a rtx 2080ti (about 13 tflops) is equal in performance to the new rtx 3070 (about 20 tflops)

also vega 64 measursing at 12 tflops but slightly under performs like a gtx 1080 at 8.9 tflops

[mkx1775]

They're really only comparable to desktop counterparts by TFLOPS since console GPU's have lower clock speeds & TDP & share system RAM

TFLOPS is a worthless measurement for gaming performance


-PS4 has a Radeon 7850 from 2011 architecture
-PS4 pro has a Radeon RX470(weaker than gtx 1060 3GB) which is 2015 architecture
-PS5 has a lower-spec'd Nvidia 1080 from 2016



I suggest you wait to build a PC until the prices normalize again, once they do you'll be able to surpass a PS5's gaming performance for the same or less money

Care to expand on the bolded sentence? I'm curious as to how you came to that conclusion. Site sources.

[BearyManilowe]

Why do you need a ps5 pro? Just build a pc.

Cost analysis is a simple enough reason.

Because I ****ing want one is another.

see below

Dated hardware that still cost less to get the GPU, Hard Drive, Blu-Ray disk drive than it does simply the equivalent PC counterpart.

You guys really ****ing suck at cost analysis, eh?

[Vikes723]

when tf are the prices going to normalize? I was just getting ready to update my gpu and then noticed the prices are outrageous

GPU prices and stock will not normalize anytime soon. Dont be surprised if its until 2022 to see a normal stock

[GainzMcgee]

ive heard over a year, hence my purchase, im no redditor but very thankful my friend is, because Id still be fukked. It is really hard to buy computer parts, when I bought my pre built the guy said "holy crap didnt see this, people will buy this and sell the card"

There was 9 left when I called, when I hung up they were gone.

From the research I gathered (which was a lot since I just spent a month looking for a GPU and paid a scalper 10% over retail for one) all of the AMDs and Nvidias inventory has already been released to retailers and they aren't making more anytime soon just releasing different lower tier cards. This GPU shortage has just begun and will probably peak sometime around Q3 this year with new inventory coming in Q4. If you haven't found a card yet then gooodluck. Even high medium tier stuff is selling for $1k minimum. Best buy has even updated their SKUs to show higher prices on stuff they plan to release but it wont be any meaningful inventory until Q4. This is basically it for now barring a crypto crash which is very unlikely. This shortage may end Summer 2022 and that would be the earliest.