Surely Shawn Ray would have done a lot more to promote bbing in the 1990's compared to Dorian. Ray looked great and was a great speaker and he could have promoted the sport a lot more. How did it benefit bodybuilding to have Dorian win and then just run back to the UK? How was Dorian good for bodybuilding?
I guess a negative with Ray was he positive drug test in the early 90's...
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10-08-2014, 11:56 PM #1
Shawn Ray: How did he not a Mr. Olympia Title???
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10-09-2014, 12:11 AM #2
He did not win because of this
(Just like Labrada/Gaspari could not defeat Lee)
Dorian broke the mental.barrier of coming in 240lbs + peeled. He started what Ronnie carried over..
He beat Shawn in terms of size n conditioning both. Ray couldn't touch him. If u care so much about the gut , go see his mandatory poses.
Other than that Shawn has always been considered as a cocky , self-righteous man. People never really loved his off stage persona much from what I know. But a phenomenal physique nevertheless.Last edited by AdamantiumYoke; 10-09-2014 at 12:16 AM.
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10-09-2014, 01:34 AM #3
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Shawn Ray was closer than Kevin Levrone and Flex Wheeler to win the Mr Olympia
I would've had Shawn Ray winning the Mr Olympia 1994
Dorian came in with bloated stomach and torn bicep.
I believe Dorian deserved all his titles except 1994 Mr O.
Man I miss the old era.
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10-09-2014, 02:18 AM #7
I dont think he deserved any. Hes a grade A douchebag in real life. Cheats on his wife. Talks **** on MD to everybody. If you make him look bad he spends 6 hours posting your account acting like you. I must admit he had me rolling on the floor with some of his posts as me. I doubt most pros would go that far for asking about the 91 Arnold. Hes nothing like Jay. Very unprofessional. Likes men in wigs. Visits Sadie the Md pornstar on the weekends according to the Pms she sent me. He immediately hacked my account. Erased my inbox. Posted as me for hours. Banned my account. I think I hit a nerve.
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There should be a picture of Dexter Jackson on the IFBB mandate.
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Srs. I asked about his conflicting stories about the 91 Arnold in a thread. Sadie immediately starts sending me pms going off. Then Shawn starts sending them. A week later I get a pm from her saying when Shawn was at her house, he showed her the pms. I asked Shawn if his wife knew about this. He got on my account and posted on threads acting like me for 6 hours. Then he banned me and my ip. I changed my Ip and made a new account. I had some hillarious pms about Shawn from priest. I miss that big armed ****er. I remember when he talked **** to Rich Piana. Now remember at this time Rich is like 280 and Shawns 200 lbs of chub. He basically said I thought you learned your lesson from Greg reid. He got knocked the **** out. let me check and make sure that was the guys name. **** was funny.
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There should be a picture of Dexter Jackson on the IFBB mandate.
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10-09-2014, 03:26 AM #12
I have seen you talk **** to woman and children on here. You are 29. You talk crap to roro and stealth every third post. You are a troll. You get on here just to talk ****. You spew nonsense like its fact. Do you ever stop. Seriously. What does this have to do with my age. Take a hint. I dont like you. I am not talking to you. stfu. Thanks.
Check out the Shawn blames Aceto thread. Funny.Last edited by Spartacus81; 10-09-2014 at 09:37 AM.
There should be a picture of Dexter Jackson on the IFBB mandate.
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10-09-2014, 03:36 AM #15
I think he likes those pros more with whom he can relate to.. He can certainly not relate to Cedric. Maybe he's got that inferiority complex for being short that some people have.
It's sad that he competed against Lee, Yates, Ronnie. It's understandable that he has been mad ever since
Not really. If you see his posts , he is too easy to provoke , loses his calm.. Starts getting personal and bashing all the other athletes too sometimes. If he had won , he would have become the cockiest. Not in a good way.Honours in Physics
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10-09-2014, 09:21 AM #23
Top place in the open>top place in 212. There are some guys who compete in the open, like Dex, Branch, Bonac, Lesukov (and a couple of them with good results), even if they could be even better in the 212s. But the money and reputation are a lot bigger in the open.
It's just that Shawn had/has a big mouth and kept complaining about the height/weight difference. I'm sure that, even if it were a 212 division during his time, he'd still have competed in the open. Many 2-5 placings with the greats of the 90s-early00s, as he did it, is a lot better than being first in the 212 for years in a row and beating smaller and less known guys.
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Marketing people promote bodybuilding, bodybuilders win bodybuilding shows... shawn wasnt good enough to dethrone someone who made him look like a lightweight on stage.
shawn was ripped, shawn had proportions with classic lines but he did not have what the 90's were marking highly, the freak factor.
Like bob paris and lee lebrada, they looked unreal on stage but they were always beaten by those with more massDont over complicate things which should be relatively simple... stick to the ABC's of bodybuilding.
When you start using your calculator and stressing over the latest internet study you know you've gone to far...
I'll meet you in the gym... today is leg day
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10-09-2014, 10:17 AM #26
Reason 1: Lee Haney
Reason 2: Dorian Yates
Reason 3: Ronnie Coleman
Reason 4: He's a dickhead - Lee Priest, John Romano, Ced McMillan, Chris Aceto, Nasser, Paul Dillet, Mike Quinn, Jay Cutler, Silvio Samuel, Dave Palumbo, just to name a few have all shared stories about him being a douche.
Shawn constantly posts pics of him from his competitive days on his ******** with inspiration quotes and all. Can you imagine how he'd be if he won the Olympia?
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