Official DALLAS COWBOYS thread, part 4

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

That does seem like a bit of a bummer to have to commit to Dak for years to come. He's taken Dallas into the playoffs, but he's not at the level that he's going to dominate the league...at least he hasn't shown that talent. With Linehan gone though, I hope it opens up the offense and puts them in positions to be successful.

I am encouraged by his play down the stretch. If he ended the year like he played weeks 1-7 I'd be very worried.

[headinahole]

27 puts him at 3rd highest paid, which will make him like top 10 highest paid in 2 years.

Get the guarantees loaded in the first 2 years so if it all falls to **** you're not on the hook another 4.

[MYOFIBRAH]

i don't think it makes sense to pay him now. they have a 1st place schedule this season and higher expectations. let him guide the team back to the divisional after this year and then he can command what he wants. and if he is able to take this team far then the team shouldn't really have any issue with paying him. sure it'll cost more than now but high-performing qbs are pricey, and i'd be okay with that if it meant he took the team on a run. if he doesn't take this team far, if they bust and miss the playoffs, and if he struggles like he did for a large part of this past year, then his stock probably drops.

of course i'm in the camp of searching for a better long-term qb so i'm biased. i'd wait to let this year play out.

[headinahole]

I mean, there's qb's out there.


Denver just gave up a 4 for Flacco.

[headinahole]

Curious.

How many good qb's can you list before you get to Dak.

If it gets difficult, ask yourself who you want in the 4th quarter on your team.


Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Mahomes
Rivers
Wilson
Ben
Baker

It honestly gets hard for me after that, Watson WILL cost you a game.

Stafford, Dalton, Goff and Ryan are all mentally weak.

[JWeezy83]

27 puts him at 3rd highest paid, which will make him like top 10 highest paid in 2 years.

Get the guarantees loaded in the first 2 years so if it all falls to **** you're not on the hook another 4.

If they wait and he balls out then the contact hits the 30s

[headinahole]

If they wait and he balls out then the contact hits the 30s

Bingo.

[A Perfect Flaw]

The thing that kills me about the article is that it ends with the writer still talking about daks potential. At 4 years in he is the QB he's going to be for the rest of his career there's not going to be a miraculous uptick in his performance. At the end of the day ask yourself if you can see him winning a SB because otherwise what's the point.

[headinahole]

The thing that kills me about the article is that it ends with the writer still talking about daks potential. At 4 years in he is the QB he's going to be for the rest of his career there's not going to be a miraculous uptick in his performance. At the end of the day ask yourself if you can see him winning a SB because otherwise what's the point.

Most wins by an NFL QB in their first 3 seasons:

Russell Wilson: 36
Dan Marino: 33
Andrew Luck: 33
Matt Ryan: 33
Joe Flacco: 32
Dak Prescott: 32



Most wins by a starting QB since 2016:

Tom Brady: 32
Dak Prescott: 30
Ben Roethlisberger: 29
Drew Brees: 29
Alex Smith: 26
Russell Wilson: 26



If you want to make the is what he is argument.

[JWeezy83]

I mean...
https://twitter.com/bobbybelttx/stat...291014657?s=21

https://twitter.com/bobbybelttx/stat...711766528?s=21

[A Perfect Flaw]

I mean regular season wins are fine but ultimately all you need to do is make the playoffs and then everything resets and I'm tired of divisional round bounces. I get it that Dak needs to get paid but he just better be prepared for the criticism when the defense isn't performing as well down the line because they can't afford to sign key players due to his contract. Unless you're the Patriots the window to win with your core group of young talent is only a few years in today's NFL.

[headinahole]

The only way you lose your young core is if you draft poorly.

A 27 million dollar contract would in no way hamstring this team unless he goes full Stafford.

[JWeezy83]

The only way you lose your young core is if you draft poorly.

A 27 million dollar contract would in no way hamstring this team unless he goes full Stafford.

The tricky contract is tank , i just can’t see letting him go and having gregory and fuking taco as our starting de’s

[headinahole]

The tricky contract is tank , i just can’t see letting him go and having gregory and fuking taco as our statetinf des

That contract scares the **** out of me.



I know I'd regret it but I'd draft and franchise him again.

[headinahole]

**** Dwane wade

[5x10]

The only way you lose your young core is if you draft poorly.

A 27 million dollar contract would in no way hamstring this team unless he goes full Stafford.

pretty surprised your for a top 3 nfl qb contract when you hated romos so much

[headinahole]

pretty surprised your for a top 3 nfl qb contract when you hated romos so much

I hated Romo's 3rd contract

they paid him over 21 mill last year and he wasn't even in the league.

I'm not necessarily "for" top 3 pay for Dak but with the salary cap going up and the qb contracts that are coming down the pike. His top 3 won't be that 1.5 years after he signs it.

If they let him play it out then I'm all for it, just hope they have a plan either way.



Edit: I also thought that Brandon Weeden was good draft pick and hated Tyrone Crawford, know a bit more about football now than then but I'll still be wrong all the time.

[JWeezy83]

Machomes fina destroy the qb pay rate like Gurley did for running backs

[5x10]

I hated Romo's 3rd contract

they paid him over 21 mill last year and he wasn't even in the league.

I'm not necessarily "for" top 3 pay for Dak but with the salary cap going up and the qb contracts that are coming down the pike. His top 3 won't be that 1.5 years after he signs it.

If they let him play it out then I'm all for it, just hope they have a plan either way.



Edit: I also thought that Brandon Weeden was good draft pick and hated Tyrone Crawford, know a bit more about football now than then but I'll still be wrong all the time.

daks contract will be back loaded as well

[headinahole]

Machomes fina destroy the qb pay rate like Gurley did for running backs

He's going to get 200 mill

daks contract will be back loaded as well

Man, I hope not.

They're doing business and drafting much better than back then.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

Man, I hope not.

They're doing business and drafting much better than back then.

I'm pretty confident they will keep it up. Their decision making and personnel decisions have been really good the last few years. Letting players walk, and not over paying. Taking calculated risks ( Amari, Jaylon)

Either way though, Dak/Zeke/Amari/Tank is going to eat up a lot of space.

[JWeezy83]

I'm pretty confident they will keep it up. Their decision making and personnel decisions have been really good the last few years. Letting players walk, and not over paying. Taking calculated risks ( Amari, Jaylon)

Either way though, Dak/Zeke/Amari/Tank is going to eat up a lot of space.

I really don’t think they know what there going to do with tank.RUMOR is indy would offer 5 years 100 mil

[headinahole]

I really don’t think they know what there going to do with tank.RUMOR is indy would offer 5 years 100 mil

Tell you one thing FOR SURE.

Stephen does not like when players subtweet and have outlandish quotes all year leading up to an contract.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

I really don’t think they know what there going to do with tank.RUMOR is indy would offer 5 years 100 mil

Tell you one thing FOR SURE.

Stephen does not like when players subtweet and have outlandish quotes all year leading up to an contract.

Out of the 4 mentioned, he is the odd ball out. Offense is nothing without Zeke, they are committed to Dak, and no chance Cooper was a rental after his impact last year.

I do fear Tank may be hitting FA. Not a lot of depth on our line either.

[JWeezy83]

Out of the 4 mentioned, he is the odd ball out. Offense is nothing without Zeke, they are committed to Dak, and no chance Cooper was a rental after his impact last year.

I do fear Tank may be hitting FA. Not a lot of depth on our line either.

Thats the chitty part, if he walks our pass rush will likely suck

[headinahole]

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Thats the chitty part, if he walks our pass rush will likely suck

All the edge pressure in the world doesn't get to Brady. We've seen it.

Need dat interior Pressure.

[JWeezy83]

All the edge pressure in the world doesn't get to Brady. We've seen it.

Need dat interior Pressure.

i give you that, hopefully they get away from the whole "we wont use premium picks on dt's" logic

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

All the edge pressure in the world doesn't get to Brady. We've seen it.

Need dat interior Pressure.

Jokes on us, we will have neither!

[headinahole]

Got a draft here in two months

Every year they get a player we're all excited about.
Don't go all whomp whomp yet.

[JWeezy83]

Got a draft here in two months

Every year they get a player we're all excited about.
Don't go all whomp whomp yet.

Gimme a tight end