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    What is the real deal with Obama's trip to India??

    Don't want to hear the right wing talking points from Beck conspiracy theories (he said today new world order)or Limbaugh's misrepresentations of the actual cost.

    My opinion is we are going to have serious talks with India and set the bullwork for a long term relationship regarding China and something groundbreaking will be announced right after the trip.

    Thoughts?
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    Inb4 somebody tells you how much the trip cost per day.
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    I don't see how its any different from a regular state visit to build relations.
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    Given the absurd cost and the current economic situation he should stay home and send Hillary. That's what the secretary of state is for. I'm not saying state visits are bad, in fact I think they should be encouraged (normally), but now is not the right time.
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    lol @ right wingers crying over the supposed '$200 million' a day cost.

    They really that supid?
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    Originally Posted by T150 View Post
    lol @ right wingers crying over the supposed '$200 million' a day cost.

    They really that supid?
    Its actually 2 billion over three days.
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    Originally Posted by amtharin View Post
    Its actually 2 billion over three days.
    The Iraq/Afhghanistan wars cost the US $2.79 billion every single week.....
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    Originally Posted by sweepone View Post
    Don't want to hear the right wing talking points from Beck conspiracy theories (he said today new world order)or Limbaugh's misrepresentations of the actual cost.

    My opinion is we are going to have serious talks with India and set the bullwork for a long term relationship regarding China and something groundbreaking will be announced right after the trip.

    Thoughts?
    He might be aligning the USA more positively with India. The Indians and Chinese fought a brief war and are fiercely competitive. A good way to deal with a very powerful nation is to make friendly with their fiercest competitor in the region.

    If he can cement relations with India (the world's largest democracy) it gives us an ally against any future Pakistan (should it become unfriendly) and against China.

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    Originally Posted by sweepone View Post
    The Iraq/Afhghanistan wars cost the US $2.79 billion every single week.....
    I dont believe your number, but I would expect a war to cost more than a trip to India.
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    Originally Posted by sweepone View Post
    The Iraq/Afhghanistan wars cost the US $2.79 billion every single week.....
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    Diplomacy is much cheaper than constant war.
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    Here is some reading about the cost (also has a tidbit about the cost of the wars):

    http://factcheck.org/2010/11/ask-fac...rip-to-mumbai/
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    Originally Posted by Streetbull View Post
    He might be aligning the USA more positively with India. The Indians and Chinese fought a brief war and are fiercely competitive. A good way to deal with a very powerful nation is to make friendly with their fiercest competitor in the region.

    If he can cement relations with India (the world's largest democracy) it gives us an ally against any future Pakistan (should it become unfriendly) and against China.

    Megapolitics is fun!
    This^^^ well said. I believe our country is more wise to China's long term goals and aspirations than we give them credit for...at least I hope.
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    Wait how can it cost 2 billion to visit India? Someone explain to me
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    Originally Posted by ZenBowman View Post
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    Diplomacy is much cheaper than constant war.
    Your narrow mind just spit that out like diplomacy is always an option.
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    Originally Posted by TheStender View Post
    Here is some reading about the cost (also has a tidbit about the cost of the wars):

    http://factcheck.org/2010/11/ask-fac...rip-to-mumbai/
    I stand corrected..the wars cost $5.7 billion per month. Thanks for the link.
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    Originally Posted by amtharin View Post
    Your narrow mind just spit that out like diplomacy is always an option.
    I didn't say that. I said it is cheaper. Just like taking a poop is cheaper than getting an enema. For people who are constipated, the first may not be an option. But, it's still cheaper.

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    Originally Posted by amtharin View Post
    Its actually 2 billion over three days.
    lol

    In before unsubstantiated indian tabloid report..

    I can't believe your this stupid.
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    Originally Posted by ZenBowman View Post
    I didn't say that. I said it is cheaper. Just like taking a poop is cheaper than getting an enema. For people who are constipated, the first may not be an option. But, it's still cheaper.

    Nice try, but you fail.
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    Originally Posted by sweepone View Post
    Don't want to hear the right wing talking points from Beck conspiracy theories (he said today new world order)or Limbaugh's misrepresentations of the actual cost.

    My opinion is we are going to have serious talks with India and set the bullwork for a long term relationship regarding China and something groundbreaking will be announced right after the trip.

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