Misc Firearms Crew LXVIII: A Bridge Too Farley

[HotCheetos]

Off the top of their head, anyone know which rail key to use on a trl1 hl for a VP9?


Also, how many extra allen wrenches do you all have from buying run accessories? I must have 12 and I don't even have many accessories

[nn586]

Sandy Hook.

Gotcha. Feelsgoodthen to live in the best time to buy these things

[ctprelude]

Off the top of their head, anyone know which rail key to use on a trl1 hl for a VP9?


Also, how many extra allen wrenches do you all have from buying run accessories? I must have 12 and I don't even have many accessories

Should just be the one that fits a standard 1913 picatinny rail.

[Raxys]

I thought about that...I suck so hard at off side everything already if I get to another match or class where it's required having full ambi controls might help a little lol

They are expensive which is pretty annoying. I'm left handed though, so I buy them anyways. I do have both the Raptor and the BCM and I prefer the Raptor by quite a large margin. Feels much smoother. And it's nice being able to use my right hand and the motions are the same.

[sword_]

This trigger is niice

[Rajeev762x39]

BCM Ambi $66.25:

http://southeastoutfitters.com/bcm-g...-mod-a44-ambi/

[Wakaaa]

No, ammo is considerably cheaper now than it has been in the last 8 years at least.

Current ammo prices are, all things considered, the best they have been in years. Maybe the best they have ever been, adjusting for inflation and what not. Seriously, with the Federal rebate and prices of common ammo like 9mm FMJ and .223/5.56 55gr FMJ...

When I started shooting in 2005, you could get 9mm WWB at Walmart for $10.34 per 100 (might have been slightly less actually), and that was the best deal going...so we aren't that low but then with 12 years of the actual inflation we have experienced, the current Federal deal where you can get 1k for $165 after rebate might be the best I have ever seen.

I also bought CCI Blazer (Aluminum) for $5.69/50 in 2007 when I first moved to Georgia (Academy Sports)


Chances are that in the next several years we will all have wet dreams about getting ammo at today's prices

makes sense thanks guys.

[omnip0tent]

Yea i got 1k of wolf gold .223 for $270 to my door

Pissening

[ctprelude]

I used to buy 500 round plastic ammo cases of steel cased Wolf around the 2004 timeframe for $55 from the local Cabelas. A 500 round brick of 22lr around the same time or earlier was around $16 or less I think.

[Rajeev762x39]

Brolin: Sicario Sequel Even Harder

http://www.manlymovie.net/2017/10/br...en-harder.html

[iifymbro]

Off the top of their head, anyone know which rail key to use on a trl1 hl for a VP9?


Also, how many extra allen wrenches do you all have from buying run accessories? I must have 12 and I don't even have many accessories

1913 rail, and that thing is bright as fuk so pepper your angus

[Aaron47pb]

Just saw PVA sells an action wrench. I'm going to have MHSA mill wrench flats into the barrel, like the AI barrels have. Should make it easy with a folding chassis.

Even with wrench flats, I'm not sure how you would pop the barrels off and torque them back on without a barrel vice. Barrel vices secure/anchor the barrel allowing you to unscrew/screw the action with an action wrench.

[Ikeman83]

Ok guys someone is trying to trade me their sage ebr mod1 socom 16. Idk wtf it is, cant really figure out when looking online. Its just a shortened M1A? Why do people like it? And is it any good?

Yes, it's just a scout type rifle that most use a red dot or some other quick acquisition reticle on for shorter distance shooting. I've never shot the socom 16, but have a standard M1A that I inherited from my dad. It's cool, but I'd personally rather have an AR10 variant if I was starting from scratch and could only have one.

This is wrong.

This is a Springfield M1A Scout Squad in a Mod 0 Sage EBR chassis



It has an 18" barrel, a muzzle brake, and a skeleton stock adjustable for LOP and comb height.

A Mod 1 EBR chassis will replace the skeleton stock with an AR buffer tube and (usually a Magpul CTR stock with a cheek riser. The SOCOM version in this case is going to refer to the configuration of the barrel, gas plug, and muzzle device.

You can see the difference in the muzzle devices here:

Scout


SOCOM



This is a 16" SOCOM mounted in a Mod 1 chasses

[Ikeman83]

Here's a SOCOM configured with a scope:

[Sp3cialK]

Even with wrench flats, I'm not sure how you would pop the barrels off and torque them back on without a barrel vice. Barrel vices secure/anchor the barrel allowing you to unscrew/screw the action with an action wrench.

Fine. I'll get a barrel vise. You happy?

[hutch1999]

Illinois Bros. It's time to fill out witness slips:

OPPOSE:
HB4107
HB4112
HB4117

Proponent:
HJR70


http://my.ilga.gov/Hearing/HearingDe...=1508339959087



Witness Slip Instructions:

Here is how I fill out a witness slip.

In Section I. "IDENTIFICATION"

I fill out the self-explanatory stuff, first and last name in the name field, street address, city and zip code.

Under "Firm Business Or Agency" I type in "On behalf of self"

Just a note here - please do not misrepresent yourself. If you are not designated and authorized to represent a group in an official capacity, please do not say that you do. Just because you are a member of the National Rifle Association doesn't mean that you represent the NRA. Just because you are a gun owner doesn't mean that you represent all gun owners.

For "Title" I type two characters - "NA" I don't use a slash in the title field because the slash is not an accepted character for this field and the form won't accept a slash. You won't be able to submit the Witness Slip with a slash in this field.

I also type out my e-maill address in the Email field so I can get a confirmation that my witness slip was submitted and so I can double check that it was filled out correctly.

I also put my phone number in the phone field.

In Section II. "REPRESENTATION" I type in "Self"

Again, unless you are a lobbyist or representing a group in an official capacity - just type in "Self".

In Section III. "POSITION" I choose Opponent (most times when we are filling out witness slips we are opposing oppressive anti-Second Amendment legislation. If we were supporting a carry bill we would choose Proponent). Make sure you actually click inside the round radio button and that the radio button gets highlighted. Simply clicking on the text portion of the form will not work, you need to click INSIDE the radio button. Its important to make sure that the correct choice is selected and highlighted here, and that this section is filled out correctly.

Be sure to use the scroll bar to move up and down on the screen - using the arrow keys can change your vote of "Opponent" or "Proponent".

Under Section IV. "Testimony (Check all that apply) I only click in the check box "Record of Appearance Only"

Then I check the box "I Agree to the ILGA Terms of Agreement."

In the box that says "Type in the text above" I type in the letters and numbers that are visible.

I click the button that says "Create (Slip) and the Witness Slip is created and submitted

http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index...howtopic=32865




I submitted all of mine this afternoon.

[taf1968]

Knock me over with a feather . . .

http://kdvr.com/2017/10/17/study-col...arent-working/

DENVER -- Colorado passed strict gun background check laws about three years ago, but new research shows they aren't working.

Researchers at Johns Hopkins and the University of California Davis teamed up to see if people are complying with Colorado's laws. Their conclusion is there is virtually no effect.

The data show background checks didn't significantly increase since Colorado passed stricter laws.The study found a modest increase in background checks in private-party sales, but almost no change in gun show sales. The study did not reach a definitive conclusion as to why background checks didn't jump.

Researchers suggested little enforcement and calls from pro-gun organizations to ignore the law may have contributed to the findings.

[Wakaaa]

Illinois Bros. It's time to fill out witness slips:

OPPOSE:
HB4107
HB4112
HB4117

Proponent:
HJR70


http://my.ilga.gov/Hearing/HearingDe...=1508339959087



Witness Slip Instructions:



http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index...howtopic=32865




I submitted all of mine this afternoon.

Hutch, why not create slips for all 5? The last one is about national reciprocity for national concealed carry. NVM, thought you only mentioned 3, but it was 4 of the 5. lol you didn't mention the domestic terrorism one.

I submitted them

[hutch1999]

Hutch, why not create slips for all 5? The last one is about national reciprocity for national concealed carry. NVM, thought you only mentioned 3, but it was 4 of the 5. lol you didn't mention the domestic terrorism one.

I submitted them

Glad you submitted them.

I don't have any info on the "domestic terrorism" bill. I copied a gun rights org who also didn't have any info on hr570.

Current numbers

HB4107:
Proponents 169, Opponents 328

HB4112:
P 82, O 267

HB4117:
P 32, O 267


HJR70:
P 251, O 23



GOOD JOB ILLINOISANS


KEEP PUSHING

[fishnbrah]

No, ammo is considerably cheaper now than it has been in the last 8 years at least.

maybe bulk ammo for 9mm and 223 but premium ammo i shoot for big game has gone up considerably. i gotta start reloading and stop buying retail

[fishnbrah]

Fine. I'll get a barrel vise. You happy?

figured a guy like you would use his belly button and bare hands

[Sp3cialK]

figured a guy like you would use his belly button and bare hands

M24 profile barrel is too thick to fit in my belly button. That's a good thought though.

[Aaron47pb]

Fine. I'll get a barrel vise. You happy?

No, I want you to get and like an AI. But might as well have the right tools for the job:

http://shop.otmtactical.com/VIPER-BA...ISE_p_360.html

I have this vise and just clamp it down.

[Sp3cialK]

No, I want you to get and like an AI. But might as well have the right tools for the job:

http://shop.otmtactical.com/VIPER-BA...ISE_p_360.html

I have this vise and just clamp it down.

I still may do an AI. I'll likely wait until after the beginning of the year. If I'm going to a match when I go home for xmas, I better start collecting some dope on my current stuff.

It can get pretty annoying trying to sell chit on the hide. Idiots offering you crap for trade, when you say "no trades." If not that, everyone wants your stuff for 50% of your asking price.

[spirit750]

I still may do an AI. I'll likely wait until after the beginning of the year. If I'm going to a match when I go home for xmas, I better start collecting some dope on my current stuff.

It can get pretty annoying trying to sell chit on the hide. Idiots offering you crap for trade, when you say "no trades." If not that, everyone wants your stuff for 50% of your asking price.

I need to start posting on there or something so I can get my scope when I'm ready. There's an XTR II on there right now...

[Aaron47pb]

I still may do an AI. I'll likely wait until after the beginning of the year. If I'm going to a match when I go home for xmas, I better start collecting some dope on my current stuff.

It can get pretty annoying trying to sell chit on the hide. Idiots offering you crap for trade, when you say "no trades." If not that, everyone wants your stuff for 50% of your asking price.

Yeah it gets old. Luckily I've had pretty good luck selling on SH.

[Wakaaa]

Glad you submitted them.

I don't have any info on the "domestic terrorism" bill. I copied a gun rights org who also didn't have any info on hr570.

Current numbers

HB4107:
Proponents 169, Opponents 328

HB4112:
P 82, O 267

HB4117:
P 32, O 267


HJR70:
P 251, O 23



GOOD JOB ILLINOISANS


KEEP PUSHING

fuk yeah!

[Sp3cialK]

I need to start posting on there or something so I can get my scope when I'm ready. There's an XTR II on there right now...

Best place to buy long range stuff. A lot of stuff is new in box.

[spirit750]

Best place to buy long range stuff. A lot of stuff is new in box.

That one in particular is the 5-25 for $875. Fuking steal.

[Ikeman83]

That one in particular is the 5-25 for $875. Fuking steal.

Pretty sure that's better than the mil/leo discount.

Got my Swarovski training materials from FedEx today. Want to read them all before Monday but FML it's a lot of material