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04-04-2020, 02:41 PM #5701
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04-04-2020, 02:42 PM #5702
hahahaha, trump provides the lols at all times. I wish canadas cuck leader was on trumps level
Shortly after, a reporter asks the president to comment on Biden’s tweet from roughly an hour ago, where the former vice president said Trump “is not responsible for the coronavirus, but he is responsible for failing to prepare our nation to respond to it”.
Says Trump: “He didn’t write that. That was done by a Democrat operative. He doesn’t write. He’s probably not even watching right now. And if he is, he doesn’t understand what he’s watching.
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04-04-2020, 02:46 PM #5703
Covid has shown to impact the cns
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04-04-2020, 02:50 PM #5704
If I am reading what you said correctly, then for you to have contracted Coronavirus, the following would have to be true:
#1 Assuming you or someone in your household doesn't have it already, the virus would somehow need to have come in on your feet, or perhaps on a bag that was put down on your kitchen floor.
#2 The virus would need to transfer from your foot or bag, onto the floor.
#3 The virus would then need to survive for a number of hours on your kitchen floor.
#4 When you dropped the pot, it would have to land on the exact spot where the virus was, for it to transfer to the pot.
#5 You put the pot back in the fridge - asuming it was still on the pot, the next time you picked the pot up it would have to transfer onto your hand, then on to the cinnamon roll.
#6 The virus better hope at this point that you don't swallow it, because your stomach will destroy it. So at this point you've got to inhale it or rub it into your eyes.
Given all of the above, I would be willing to put money on you being OK. Of course I cannot be certain, so I will pray for you this evening.
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04-04-2020, 02:56 PM #5705
Thanks for the detailed response.
I wasn't aware that you can't get the virus from eating food? Isn't that one of the main reasons people aren't eating out nowadays?
So hypothetically if an infected person coughed or breathed on my cinnamon roll and I ate it immediately afterwards, you're saying there's no way I could get the virus that way?
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04-04-2020, 02:57 PM #5706
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People have to prepare and package that food and you have to touch all the stuff involved in the packaging and delivery. It's also more expensive than making food at home, anyway
Plus the most 'official' thing I've seen posted about that was to the tune of 'unlikely' and 'don't know of a confirmed case from food'. That's not exactly ironclad by a long shot. So, I'll just avoid
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04-04-2020, 03:00 PM #5707
Yeah, viruses do all sorts of weird ****, although central nervous system manifestations aren't as common. A few days ago, a case report about a COVID-positive patient who developed acute hemorrhagic necrotizing encephalopathy was published in the journal Radiology. This has also been seen very rarely in influenza and other viral infections as well.
https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/radiol.2020201187أشهد أن لا إله إلاَّ الله و أشهد أن محمد رسول الله
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04-04-2020, 03:01 PM #5708
I've stopped posting as heavily as I was before for the past several days and have instead focused on the models and what is accurate and what is not.
The pandemic is no doubt a very bad one that will kill many Americans. I myself have pushed for government mandated shutdowns/restrictions, mostly based on hospital resource limitations and projected overburdening of those limited resources which would create a very bad situation for all serious and critical patients including ones other than COVID-19 patients.
However, in general and so far, the overburdening of the health care system has been overestimated and the hospitalization/bed needs is only roughly about 1/4 of what was projected in most states. The projection of deaths has been accurate but the projection of overall hospitalization needs and overburdening at those same points has not. So I'm now leaning towards getting business back to normal sooner rather than later.
For most of America, April 30th is the latest we should abide by government restrictions on normal business and movement of the people and any further attempts beyond that should be strongly opposed.
Transmissions/new infections will still be happening at that time and at-risk Americans, especially the elderly and those with respiratory and other health conditions which place them at greater risk, would still need to avoid contact with potentially infected people and take precautions when in public such as wearing masks, avoiding crowds, social distancing, getting help from others with groceries and meds, etc.
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04-04-2020, 03:03 PM #5709
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04-04-2020, 03:10 PM #5710
The main reason people aren't eating out is because of social distancing. You're close to the cashier, the diners next to you, etc. You handle cutlery that's been handled by someone else, you touch cash that has been handled by someone else, door handles in the lavatory, etc etc.
Whilst less is known about COVID-19, they know that other coronaviruses are not generally transmitted via food. Usually it's through shaking someone's hand or touching a contaminated surface and then rubbing your face or eyes. If you inhale sneeze or cough droplets that's another obvious way of contracting such a virus. But other coronaviruses can't be contracted through the digestive tract.
Also sneezing on your cinnamon roll is one thing, but in this instance we're talking about it somehow getting on your floor, then on to the pot, then on to your cinnamon roll, then possibly contracting it through your digestive system. It seems too unlikely.
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04-04-2020, 03:14 PM #5711
Well, really what happened is that I was bringing some stuff in from my car, and using a luggage cart that my condo lets people borrow. I placed a few packs of water on the luggage cart then put the water right in front of my fridge. Later that night after the water was moved elsewhere, the container of icing fell on that spot. So my paranoia was that the luggage cart was contaminated, it contaminated the bottom of my water bottle package, then I contaminated the floor where the icing dropped by leaving the water there for a few minutes. Not to mention, I walk around that area quite frequently. Fridge is right near my entrance.
I'm sure it sounds completely insane to be thinking about stuff at this level but this, to me, is exactly why the virus is so contagious. The typical person doesn't consider this type of scenario or anything even close to it.
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04-04-2020, 03:19 PM #5712
Bro, you're getting this crap from being in closed spaces with people who are infected and breathing in the same air. It's contagious, but not as contagious as you're making it out to be. Your scenario probably has about a .00000001% chance of you getting anything. Can't live your life like that. You're young and healthy, even if you got the virus, particularly in that low form of a transmission method, your immune system would 99.99999% be fine.
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04-04-2020, 03:23 PM #5713
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04-04-2020, 03:26 PM #5714
I guess. I dunno i'm tripping about riding in my elevator at my condo the most to be honest. So i've been taking the stairs. Just seems like the elevator is an enclosed spaced that would allow germs to stick around in the air. Debating a masked up grocery trip currently. Went a while back with mask and I feel like people want to chat more when you're wearing one haha
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04-04-2020, 03:27 PM #5715
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04-04-2020, 03:32 PM #5716
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04-04-2020, 03:47 PM #5717
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Can confirm.
I told my employees about the virus in January. I also told them in February I would keep paying them if we shutdown. Then I switched and said I'd makeup the difference if they had to go on unemployment but probably wouldn't need to.
Then on March 18th we finished a big paycheck job and I was advised our future work couldn't continue.
I then laid everybody off without warning, told them I couldn't pay them anything and to file unemployment.
This makes me sound bad, but I also helped them file unemployment, I actually did some of their taxes for them so they could get the stimulus and if I ever get access to these payroll loans I will back pay somehow to make up the difference.
As much planning and preparation I did, it's a whole different feeling when you lose $100k in a day of canceled contracts and then the cancellations just keep coming every day afterwards. Some of them require refunds.
I only believe the videos where people are wearing masks in the background.Last edited by metroins; 04-04-2020 at 03:54 PM.
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04-04-2020, 03:59 PM #5718
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04-04-2020, 04:03 PM #5719
Im really curious as to how many people that have died, have died of the actual virus and not something else.
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04-04-2020, 04:07 PM #5720
We need to help each other instead of creating division and encouraging hate.
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04-04-2020, 04:32 PM #5722
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04-04-2020, 04:40 PM #5723I was always looking at the finger pointing at
the moon. Now I'm just looking at the moon.
And theres no me looking. Theres just looking.
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04-04-2020, 05:03 PM #5724
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04-04-2020, 05:04 PM #5725
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The denial is really alarming at this point.
There are different reasons for it that I can sort of understand, especially people who couldn't believe it because they couldn't afford for the shutdown to happen, but at this point it's just "that can't happen in real life".
Yeeeeeeeah.Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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04-04-2020, 05:09 PM #5726
I thought I was over the top and paranoid. I would say there’s zero percent risk from what you described but you should wipe down any surfaces and products you bring in from the outside with alcohol/antibacterial wipes etc. I also wouldn’t be sharing any luggage.
Keep washing your hands and utilising social distancing and look after your mental health with mindfulness and meditation
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04-04-2020, 05:26 PM #5727I was always looking at the finger pointing at
the moon. Now I'm just looking at the moon.
And theres no me looking. Theres just looking.
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04-04-2020, 05:39 PM #5728
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04-04-2020, 05:39 PM #5729
China's retailers face hard truth: If you reopen, they won't come
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04-04-2020, 05:55 PM #5730
At a fish market in DC today
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