Curious is DAA banned (D-Aspartic acid)? I thought I was all natural but that Hemo Rage just failed me...LOL
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01-03-2012, 04:18 PM #31
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01-03-2012, 04:23 PM #32
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01-03-2012, 04:37 PM #33
DAA is fine. From my understanding, as long as your testosterone levels do not exceed the 6:1 ratio that Hawks58 talked about (on the last page) you will be fine. If for some reason DAA made your test levels exceed the 6:1 ratio I would GUESS that they would test your urine to find out why it exceeded the 6:1 ratio, instead of busting you right away. I would then GUESS that they would find that the 6:1 ratio was exceeded naturally, as DAA is natural, and then I would GUESS that you would be fine.
I have no idea if DAA could cause someone to exceed the 6:1 ratio.
As antihero stated on the last page, the reason the NCAA regulations suck so bad is that everything is left to pretty much guessing.
You're still considered natty bro. 1,3D is just banned by the NCAA. It doesn't mean you're not natty.
After hearing both you and antihero say that you think PEA is fine, I will not add it to the list unless we hear something different."Man is nothing else but what he makes of himself." - Jean Paul Sartre
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01-03-2012, 04:53 PM #34
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01-03-2012, 07:26 PM #37
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PEA's half-life is 5-10 minutes.
So if we say PEA's half-life is 10 minutes, then 50% would be removed at the 10 minute mark.
After 2 half lives (20 minutes), 75% would be removed.
After 3 half lives (30 minutes), 12.5% of the original dose would remain. And so on.
The biggest factor is the original dose and the detection limit on the instrument you are using to run the test.
Most testing devices have a low sensitivity, but high specificity (unless we're talking olympic testing).
And so, the run-of-the-mill non-invasive testing "mechanisms" probably won't be able to detect PEA after 1 or 2 high lives.twitter: @bullexinferis
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01-03-2012, 07:32 PM #38
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1,3-DMAA is highly related to tuaminoheptane; both in structure and function.
1,3-DMAA: http://hightowerpharmacology.blogspo...amylamine.htmltwitter: @bullexinferis
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01-03-2012, 07:35 PM #39
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01-03-2012, 09:04 PM #40
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01-03-2012, 11:00 PM #42
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01-04-2012, 05:12 AM #43
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01-04-2012, 10:39 AM #44
Really? That's funny, because I know people who have been tested by the NCAA.
Look at the link I posted in the very first post on this page. I'm sure there are many more stories like that out there if you search around.
Haha, they did. Feelsgoodman.
It would be great if you could keep popping in here every once in awhile just to clear stuff up like that."Man is nothing else but what he makes of himself." - Jean Paul Sartre
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01-04-2012, 12:01 PM #45
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01-04-2012, 01:15 PM #46
great thread. 5 stars
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01-04-2012, 04:38 PM #47
Great thread, i agree some of the regulations are a bit obscure and the fact they give really vague guidelines is terrible. But from what i've read its pretty hard to fail for caffeine theres no real evidence as to how much caffeine will dilute your urine to over the banned limit but caffeine generally stays in your body for roughly 6 hours and no more then a day so you'd have to consume a good deal of caffeine that morning and most places are supposed to give a day notice (not all do)
From what i've noticed atleast at my school is generally the newcomers get tested first, unless you make it to a NCAA sanctioned event like nationals. And atleast at my school they generally only test for street drugs as i've been here a year and a half and only know on occasion people being steroid tested.
That drugfreerec site is pretty solid, but they too give real generalized answers they'll mention something about caffeine then not go indepth on really anything. I wish there was more research on how long certain supplements stay in your system and actually what will get you to test positive.
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01-04-2012, 04:45 PM #48
It would be great if you could continue to pop in every once in awhile too, if you can, just to help out. You and Pinch are much more knowledgeable than myself.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I would trust that the caffeine information I posted in the OP is correct and if you did your own calculations you would find that number to be accurate. It was from a review done by the International Society of Sports Nutrition."Man is nothing else but what he makes of himself." - Jean Paul Sartre
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01-04-2012, 06:54 PM #49
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01-05-2012, 02:03 AM #52
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Good thread.
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01-05-2012, 09:45 AM #53
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01-05-2012, 09:49 AM #54
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01-05-2012, 07:02 PM #55
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01-05-2012, 07:21 PM #56
Yes, but why even risk it? What if the athlete does not know when they will be tested? There are many preworkouts out there that don't contain 1,3D and will do just as much, if not more, for you than Jack3d.
I was never a fan of 1,3D.
If for whatever reason an athlete decides to use a product with 1,3D (I strongly advise any NCAA athletes not to) just please do not use it before an event/game which you may be tested after."Man is nothing else but what he makes of himself." - Jean Paul Sartre
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01-09-2012, 09:15 AM #57
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01-10-2012, 02:34 PM #58
Some schools test their student-athletes year round or whenever they randomly feel like it.
I still wouldn't recommend for any NCAA student-athletes to use Jack3d (or any other supplement with a banned substance). I just don't think it's worth the risk when there are so many other safe products out there."Man is nothing else but what he makes of himself." - Jean Paul Sartre
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01-10-2012, 03:21 PM #59
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