Can you live in a country where liberals...

[Skwidward]

It is not a matter of disagreement.

There can not even begin to be a discussion/ debate when the two sides live in completely different realities.

I always figured this is what “government” was supposed to be

Our “representatives” discussing and debating with “the other side” for our interests

[Cleveland33]

It's literally his MO - he ignores what you actually say and makes a twisted inference to further his narrative

[Skwidward]

No, we used to do it just fine before all of this SJW BS became mainstream, like I said in my first post...

Ok, so it is possible for you to live in a country where people you disagree with are allowed to vote and ultimately “weigh in” on issues that may inconvenience you to the level of having to prove who you are and submit to a background check when purchasing a firearm?

[Cleveland33]

Ok, so it is possible for you to live in a country where people you disagree with are allowed to vote and ultimately “weigh in” on issues that may inconvenience you to the level of having to prove who you are and submit to an background check when purchasing a firearm?

He LITERALLY said that is how it used to be here

[iabs]

I always figured this is what “government” was supposed to be

Our “representatives” discussing and debating with “the other side” for our interests

Well, then you’re as naive as they want you to be.

Why do you think lobbyists exist?

Do you think ANY politician can win an election without donations?

Now go find out where the majority of political campaign contributions come from.

[Skwidward]

Oh hey look, this game again!

No one in this thread said that

oh look here we go again with you twisting people's responses and reading what is not actually there

How on earth do you get that conclusion from what he said?

It's literally his MO - he ignores what you actually say and makes a twisted inference to further his narrative

He LITERALLY said that is how it used to be here

...

[Cleveland33]

Ok, so it is possible for you to live in a country where people you disagree with are allowed to vote and ultimately “weigh in” on issues that may inconvenience you to the level of having to prove who you are and submit to an background check when purchasing a firearm?

...

You mean like how it used to be?

[Skwidward]

Well, then you’re as naive as they want you to be.

Why do you think lobbyists exist?

Do you think ANY politician can win an election without donations?

Now go find out where the majority of political campaign contributions come from.

If you read my post again, you’ll notice the word “supposed”

I’m not denying our government is corrupt

I was adding to what you had said about two different realities not being able to discuss/debate

The idea behind a representative government was that different realities were represented in the debate/discussion. This is what government was supposed to be

I know politics is a touchy subject, but it is possible to have a discussion (I mean us, here)

[Leonydus]

not when they take over your academia and media to subvert your culture and people

[Skwidward]

not when they take over your academia and media to subvert your culture and people

Fair enough

Another “no”

[Cleveland33]

Ok, so it is possible for you to live in a country where people you disagree with are allowed to vote and ultimately “weigh in” on issues that may inconvenience you to the level of having to prove who you are and submit to a background check when purchasing a firearm?

Fair enough

Another “no”

he didn't say no

[JaegerBrah]

Yes, absolutely, but it'll never happen, given the nature of the world we live in.

[Skwidward]

he didn't say no

So the left hasn’t taken over your academia and media to subvert your culture and people?

[Cleveland33]

So the left hasn’t taken over your academia and media to subvert your culture and people?

if they have taken over academia and media to subvert culture and people, they are fukcing with your life and it's not the same as your original question

... transgender, atheist, satanist, globalist, and betas keep themselves to themselves but are allowed certain respect for holidays etc. and they don’t fukc with your way of life, you don’t fukc with theirs and we all pay taxes and vote?

Hence:

Yes, absolutely, but it'll never happen, given the nature of the world we live in.

[Skwidward]

if they have taken over academia and media to subvert culture and people, they are fukcing with your life and it's not the same as your original question



Hence:

The question was:

So the left hasn’t taken over your academia and media to subvert your culture and people?

[PenorBrahNoHomo]

'Keeping yourself to yourself' politically means not voting, so your whole thread is pointless.

[Cleveland33]

The question was:

So the left hasn’t taken over your academia and media to subvert your culture and people?

That's a side question from your original post.

My post was to point out that Leonydus did not say no to your original question.

[Skwidward]

'Keeping yourself to yourself' politically means not voting, so your whole thread is pointless.

Depends on its intent

[Skwidward]

That's a side question from your original post.

My post was to point out that Leonydus did not say no to your original question.

He did if he believes the left has taken over his academia and media to subvert his culture and people

Seeing as you appear to have taken on the role of his spokesperson, The question was:

So the left hasn’t taken over your academia and media to subvert your culture and people?

[Cleveland33]

He did if he believes the left has taken over his academia and media to subvert his culture and people

Seeing as you appear to have taken on the role of his spokesperson, The question was:

So the left hasn’t taken over your academia and media to subvert your culture and people?

I'm pretty sure "not when..." indicates that he believes you CAN (which is a yes to your question) without that caveat, which you removed from your original question.

[Skwidward]

I'm pretty sure "not when..." indicates that he believes you CAN (which is a yes to your question) without that caveat, which you removed from your original question.

Well thanks for clearing that up, Cleveland33

If his answer is a yes, then we can deduce that as far as Leonydus is concerned, “they” have not taken over our academia and media to subvert our culture and people

I’m glad you’re here. Sometimes deciphering these posts isn’t so easy.

I mean, if I asked someone, “Hey, do you think you can jump that canyon on your Harley?”

And they answered, “not if my Harley doesn’t have any wheels on it,” we now know that such an answer, in fact, is a “yes,” and it also informs us that the Harley does have wheels.

Super clear

Thanks again!

I’m gonna start answer all closed questions with random and irrelevant caveats

[Leonydus]

the answer is no, they tend to take over every key position of a nation. in USA they have taken over our media, academia, and decides who can be a politician. if you zoom out the graph, the right in this country hasn't gained any ground in over 100 years. the eagle got infected with a parasite back in 1913

[Ephedra]

Let’s pick one...

So due to someone voting against your beliefs, your freedoms have been effected in what way?

Are you this dense?

A Republican Governor is in Florida

A Democrat Governor is in California

I'll let you do the research on the economic and personal freedom differences between these two states during the pandemic.

[Skwidward]

Are you this dense?

A Republican Governor is in Florida

A Democrat Governor is in California

I'll let you do the research on the economic and personal freedom differences between these two states during the pandemic.

But nobody voted on COVID restrictions...

You’re saying because people you don’t agree with are able to vote, your personal freedoms have been effected by two different states enacting different restrictions during COVID?

[Skwidward]

the answer is no, they tend to take over every key position of a nation. in USA they have taken over our media, academia, and decides who can be a politician. if you zoom out the graph, the right in this country hasn't gained any ground in over 100 years. the eagle got infected with a parasite back in 1913

No? But Cleveland33 said you meant “yes”

On a serious note, what happened in 1913? (Genuinely, I don’t know)

[iabs]

If you read my post again, you’ll notice the word “supposed”

I’m not denying our government is corrupt

I was adding to what you had said about two different realities not being able to discuss/debate

The idea behind a representative government was that different realities were represented in the debate/discussion. This is what government was supposed to be

I know politics is a touchy subject, but it is possible to have a discussion (I mean us, here)

You wanna have a real meaningful political discussion?

ok.

What is your stance on:

US/ Mexico border
Immigration
Healthcare
1st Ammendment
2nd Ammendment
Minimum Wage
Iran Deal
Paris Agreement
Sino-American relations

Be as specific as your knowledge on the subject allows you to, please.

Let's start there and maybe we can eventually move on to who gets to use what bathroom, which is a major concern of the left...

[Ephedra]

But nobody voted on COVID restrictions...

You’re saying because people you don’t agree with are able to vote, your personal freedoms have been effected by two different states enacting different restrictions during COVID?

Voting for a Democrat = less freedom. Hence, people voting Democrat Newsom into the governorship effected my personal freedoms as well as my ability to operate my business as a Californian.

Fun fact: all states with the most strict totalitarian shutdown policies during covid had Democrat governors.

You know this but you're playing coy to try and prove a point.

[Skwidward]

You wanna have a real meaningful political discussion?

ok.

What is your stance on:

US/ Mexico border
Immigration
Healthcare
1st Ammendment
2nd Ammendment
Minimum Wage
Iran Deal
Paris Agreement
Sino-American relations

Be as specific as your knowledge on the subject allows you to, please.

Let's start there and maybe we can eventually move on to who gets to use what bathroom, which is a major concern of the left...

I would say this is more of an interrogation/mid-term paper assignment than an attempt at a discussion regarding politics.

But if you mean it, we can go back and pick up where we left off...

You said: There can not even begin to be a discussion/ debate when the two sides live in completely different realities.

The point I was making was that I believe it is possible for two sides to have a discussion/debate, even when they live in separate realities

[eod8989]

The extreme left, you know, the blue hair, militant Socialists, outcasts of society, they hate themselves and want to watch the world burn.

The rest are neo-liberals who are basically sheep, they have no original thought, no critical thinking, their response to critical socio-political questions is a regurgitated MSM opinion.

This is so true it's scary

[Skwidward]

Voting for a Democrat = less freedom. Hence, people voting Democrat Newsom into the governorship effected my personal freedoms as well as my ability to operate my business as a Californian.

Fun fact: all states with the most strict totalitarian shutdown policies during covid had Democrat governors.

You know this but you're playing coy to try and prove a point.

Was just clarifying that you were saying was what I thought you were saying—the bold

Is it possible to continue this discussion further, or would me asking you more questions regarding the bold be considered offensive?